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LottoVantage's avatar - BRITIS 3.GIF
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Posted: July 15, 2006, 1:08 am - IP Logged

Well, since Todd chose to post private messages, then I feel the entire issue needs to be posted in it's entirety.

— Previous Private Message —
Sent By : LottoVantage
Sent : March 28, 2006, 12:00 pm

Todd, I have begun tracking NJ Cash 5 with my StatPath 5 system. Since, in my honest opinion, there is no other VIABLE system in existance available to track and predict pick 5 lotteries successfully, I thought you might be interested in previewing one system that does work. My StatPath 5 system is a totally new approach, fresh with new ideas in winning pick 5 lotteries. There are no formulas, etc., involved with StatPath 5. What you see is what you get. The only participation required is deciding WHEN to wager your money, and how much! Not only is StatPath 5 the most effective system I've seen, it's the most fun and addictive entertainment I have ever been involved with. Here is my answer to your next question; If I had spent $61.00 instead of an outrageously filtered $8.00 on Ohio's Rolling Cash 5 on March 16, 2006, I would have won the Rolling Cash 5 jackpot. Out of those eight tickets, I hit three 3 matches, and five 2 matches for a total of $35.00.

If you are interested in learning more, PM me and we will go from there.

Thanks, and good luck!

LottoVantage

Todd's reply

Congratulations on coming up with a system that is working for you -- not an easy task!

Unfortunately, I'm so completely and utterly tapped out of time these days that I'm just not sure I have much spare time to spend with a new system. I don't even get much of a chance to play these days, let alone pick up a new system.

I really appreciate you thinking of me, and your system sounds very exciting. Maybe in the future we could work together on something, but it would be unfair to you to promise anything right now.

Thanks,
Todd

— Previous Private Message —
Sent By : LottoVantage
Sent : June 24, 2006, 1:06 pm, 3 months following my offer for Todd to preview my system.

Todd, looks like you now have the time to view, comment, and make suggestions concerning new systems. Personally, I feel as though I have been totally sloughed off and discarded as anything worthwhile for LP's interest's. I came to you totally honest, but feel as though I have not been afforded the same consideration. What's up? Maybe you have time now to consider that question...

Best regards,

LottoVantage

— Previous Private Message —
Sent By : Todd
Sent : June 24, 2006, 1:29 pm

Whoa, where the heck is this coming from? What are you talking about?

— Previous Private Message —
Sent By : LottoVantage
Sent : June 24, 2006, 2:00 pm

Todd, on March 28 I contacted you with this information with an offer for you to view it in private:

Since, in my honest opinion, there is no other VIABLE system in existance available to track and predict pick 5 lotteries successfully, I thought you might be interested in previewing one system that does work. My StatPath 5 system is a totally new approach, fresh with new ideas in winning pick 5 lotteries. There are no formulas, etc., involved with StatPath 5. What you see is what you get. The only participation required is deciding WHEN to wager your money, and how much! Not only is StatPath 5 the most effective system I've seen, it's the most fun and addictive entertainment I have ever been involved with.

This was your reply:

Congratulations on coming up with a system that is working for you -- not an easy task!

Unfortunately, I'm so completely and utterly tapped out of time these days that I'm just not sure I have much spare time to spend with a new system. I don't even get much of a chance to play these days, let alone pick up a new system.

I have been posting my system for over a week. There has not even been one comment, favorable or unfavorable. Stefan shows up and within hours highly favorable comments and suggestions are made concerning his work and his system. Who is Stephan? Never heard of him!

How would you feel?

Best regards,

LottoVantage

— Previous Private Message —
Sent By : Todd
Sent : June 24, 2006, 4:36 pm

I think you are being waaaayyyy overly sensitive, and you're comparing apples and oranges to boot.

I posted a couple sentences praising someone for posting a long, detailed thread explaining their system, and not asking anything in return. I think it's my role to point out when people are being very generous, to encourage others to do the same. Note: I had been posting for over a week a pick 5 system, highly detailed, rich in graphics and information and asking nothing in return. Am I missing somethimg here? 

Frankly I have no idea how his/her system system works, because I just skimmed through the text. If I was reviewing the system and providing my opinion about it, I certainly would have read it in detail.

You seem to be carrying a grudge against me for some reason. You apparently have attached great significance to the fact that I did not (and still do not) have time to learn and use your system, as if it was a slap in your face. My reply to you took place three months ago. Note: The unwarrented slamming begins.

I don't understand why you would feel that way, especially considering the nice reply I sent to you. If it were my system, I would be much more happy with the great wealth I was making from my system, rather than worrying about what someone I've never even met thought of it.

If you want to post your system in detail on the forums to share with others, I am certain you will receive an outpouring of thanks from the LP members. And I will also certainly post a similar response to the one I posted in the other system thread. Note: It never happened, but I'm a sicko, so it must just be me.

Good luck.

-Todd

— Previous Private Message —
Sent By : LottoVantage
Sent : June 24, 2006, 8:49 pm

Waaaayyyy overly sensitive? Comparing apples and oranges to boot? I spent 10 plus years working with some real logic and putting this system together for pick 5, and thats your total reasoning? All I ever desired was for someone of your capability and knowledge to view and pass judgement one way or the other and I would have walked. I may or may not have extended time left in the short future because of overwhelming personal health issues. I have other compelling interest's in mind prior to my demise, and if what I have spent so many years creating doesn't add up to apples and oranges, then I need to move on to other compelling interest's. I have no personal grudge against you whatsoever. I have praised this site, and given you credit for your ingenuity and hard work many times. All I ever suggested of you was the same consideration, and I didn't get it. Along comes an unknown and you heap the praise and make your favorable statements after a couple hour's of his posting following over a week of posting my system with absolutely no comment from you whatsoever, and somehow I've got things screwed up? All the learning that is required of my system is in viewing it and passing opinion. You had time to view Stefan's system and favorably pass review, has my desire been that unreasonable? My system is in detail on my Premium Member LP supplied blog, I am really amazed that over the amount of time it has been available that you haven't noticed.

Best to you,

LottoVantage

— Previous Private Message —
Sent By : Todd
Sent : June 25, 2006, 12:15 am

I tried to explain myself in a reasonable manner, and there is no getting through to you. You are determined to play a victim, and if that's the way you want to be, there is nothing I can say that you will understand, because you're actively inventing some kind of vendetta against you. Sorry for whatever health issues you have, but you are not the only one. If I were in your shoes I would be making the most of my time left, and not trying to cast blame on a complete stranger. Note: Further personal accusations.

— Previous Private Message —
Sent By : LottoVantage
Sent : June 25, 2006, 7:15 am

There's just absolutely no way to get through to you, is there? You absolutely must reverse any controversy, and place all misunderstanding, fault, whatever, on the member trying to justify anything with you. Well, I am done with this, and you can continue believing you are absolutely correct and I am absolutely and totally confused, arrogant, or whatever you want to think, but you have certainly convinced me that arriving at a sensable understanding with you about anything is totally impossible. I am very sorry for you my friend.

Best to you,

LottoVantage

Sent By: Todd

Todd

Sent: June 25, 2006, 8:57 am

June 25, 2006, 8:57 am

I'm sorry you feel that way. Best to you as well.

-Todd

This never had to happen. All I asked for was equal consideration. All of a sudden I am some kind of sicko that needs treatment. I can readily identify the real sicko here people!

 

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    All I can say is I'm glad I'm not a webmaster, sounds like being one involves more than just writing programs and maintaining the site.

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      Posted: July 15, 2006, 1:47 am - IP Logged

      Two more people that I have to remember not to send anything private in my  PRIVATE Messages.

        LottoVantage's avatar - BRITIS 3.GIF
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        Posted: July 15, 2006, 2:05 am - IP Logged

        CD, since Todd decided to post a twisted version of our private messages, do you actually think it was unfair of me to defend what really transpired? I don't think so. I've been at the bottom of the bucket throughout this whole mess, you know, member verses administrator. But I've been there before through over 35 years of manufacturing management, and I'm sure of one thing, I'm just as prepared to defend  myself as accurately and honestly as I ever have been.

         

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          Posted: July 15, 2006, 2:09 am - IP Logged

          i'm not going to take sides on this but speak from experience........

          as far as the pick 5 goes i got a tally of almost A HUNDRED 4 out of 5's since this year begin.that is a lot of 4 out of 5's.i was doing this every night on average sometimes two or three times a night.the fact is more people are interested in the pick 3,pick 4 and jackpot games.even when i was doing all this i might've gotten a couple PM'S but not a lot because the simple matter is the fact that the pick 5 is just not as popular with the average lottery player like the pick 3 or the powerball.its kind of gotten step child status in a way.i don't think todd is wrong on any of this but he was just trying to defend himself.i think he has had a lot of pressure from various people lately.first we had the lottery queen thing that had everyone at arms for a while but that worked itself out.we need to let the man do what he does best and let him run the site.he is a very busy person.i think a few people are running on high emotions here lately and its causing a strain to develop.lottovantage enjoy what time you have left.don't let the little things get you down.the stress of it all is getting to you.i'm pretty sure my problems are trivial compared to yours because i certainly haven't faced what you are facing.i've got a lot of issues myself here lately but i'm trying my best not to let them spill onto the pages here.don't let this stuff eat at you.do you have family? spend time with loved ones.if you don't have much time left do something you enjoy.like i said the pick 5 just isn't played as much as the others.i would take your system and try to win something.don't sweat the small stuff........

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            Posted: July 15, 2006, 7:28 am - IP Logged

            LottoVantange,

            Thanks for posting the latest PMs also.  They show that you are unhinged, and that my responses to your have always been appropriate.

            CalifDude, I never post the content of PMs, except in this case were Lotto Vantage took his private vendetta public, and started making false accusations on the forums.  I'm not sure how LV could call my post of the PMs to be "twisted", unless he's referring to his own words, of course.

            LV, if you've been in this situation before, it says to me that you are a habitually combative person, and it's no wonder you are not getting responses to your system posts.  However, that's not why I did not take a look, as I did not know the type of things you were capable of when I first replied to you.  Had I know that, I would not have replied at all.

             

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              Posted: July 15, 2006, 7:47 am - IP Logged

              Two more people that I have to remember not to send anything private in my  PRIVATE Messages.

              Ain't it a fact?

              J

              Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

              It's about number behavior.

              Egos don't count.

               

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                Two more people that I have to remember not to send anything private in my  PRIVATE Messages.

                Ain't it a fact?

                J

                Welcome to my world.  I'm at the point where I have to explicitly say at the end of my private messages, "Please do not share this with other people."  Many times if I don't do that my PRIVATE Message gets copied and pasted all over the place.

                 

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                  LottoVantage's avatar - BRITIS 3.GIF
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                  Two more people that I have to remember not to send anything private in my  PRIVATE Messages.

                  Ain't it a fact?

                  J

                  Welcome to my world.  I'm at the point where I have to explicitly say at the end of my private messages, "Please do not share this with other people."  Many times if I don't do that my PRIVATE Message gets copied and pasted all over the place.

                  Welcome to my world.  I'm at the point where I have to explicitly say at the end of my private messages, "Please do not share this with other people."

                  Can anyone believe this? He post's our private messages, (first), out of nowhere, then tries to slant it to appear that I initiated this BS? There is just no end to the tactics he will use to shift responsibility to someone else to bear!

                  Geeze, get a life man!

                   

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                    First, Todd thank you for this awesome site. I pop in with fair frequency, even if I don't post often. Without this site I would not have seen LottoVantage's idea. Second, thank you LottoVantage for the insight on the draws. I know I thought I was close to having a system several times, only to have it bomb. Yours, on the other hand is very viable and I plan on implementing the idea. Again, thanks guys.

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                      LottoVantage:

                      Have you thought through what you're trying to accomplish on this thread?

                      It can't be self-vindication with the membership, because nobody on the membership has accused you of anything, thought anything negative of you.

                      You appear to have some differences with Todd, but those can be handled in private between the two of you, or dropped and forgotten.

                      I don't recall whether it was Woolsey, when he was Archbishop of Canterbury, or Sir Thomas Moore, or maybe even Cromwell observed, "God help the man who fights his king and wins."

                      Todd's king here, and whatever you think might be won in this public battle you're waging, you are in a no-win situation.

                      Besides, this ain't a good thing and it's accomplishing nothing.

                      Think it through, amigo.

                      Jack

                      Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

                      It's about number behavior.

                      Egos don't count.

                       

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                        Posted: July 15, 2006, 12:43 pm - IP Logged

                        For me posting at LP is a part of my recreational pursuit of playing the lotteries.  I enjoy posting my thoughts as much as reading the thoughts of others on the subject but I don't expect or want any follow-up beyond what is posted in the public forum.  When I do get PMs, I  respond privately but I have no desire to make my recreational pursuit a project that involves other people, their opinions or their systems.  I think there are other members that feel the same way and I respect that.

                         

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                          LottoVantage

                          I sincerely hope I can write this in the way that I feel and nothing comes out negatively.  I do not wish to be negative.  So here goes.

                          I am a follower of the P5 games only.  Right now I feel that I am close to a solution that will work in Tennessee (I want to be correct once a year).  While I am interested in ideas, I am not interested in someone else's system; not right now.  If and when I give up on my efforts, then I will examine someone else's effort.  Perhaps someday I will be a big fan of your system but only when ( not "if") my system fails to perform.

                          No one should  take silence as an insult, either personally or to their  system.  I am being silent because I am totally committed to my efforts.  I believe others are in the same pea patch. 

                          What I do appreciate about your posts are the descriptions of how your system works or the components of your system.  I will study your ideas and might even incorporate them into my "system".  I am sure others will also. 

                          Meanwhile, keep on trucking.  Do your own thing. 

                           

                          LottoVantage:

                          Logged back in for a second..................................................................... 

                          after posting my attempt to pick 5/5 numbers from a pool of 12 numbers,

                          please note.........................best I could do was 4/0 from this pool for GA-

                          FAN5 numbers. When I started, over a month ago, QBJECTIVE was to get

                          a pool with 10 numbers too include 5/5, so I could wheel the jackpot from 

                          this group ??????????????? CAN you POST a 10 number pool,  8  number

                          pool, or LESS would be........MUCH BETTER..........can you post 5 numbers

                          from a 5 number POOL........for a JACKPOT?????? for GA or TN ??????????

                          PSYKOMO would appreciate any "HELP" or positive "ENERGY" >>>>>>>>

                          "Thanks to all for your Pick-5.......HELP"  thanks again toooooooooo

                          "THE LOTTERY POST"  $$$$$$$$$$$$$

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                          PSYKOMO 

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                            LottoVantage:

                            Have you thought through what you're trying to accomplish on this thread?

                            It can't be self-vindication with the membership, because nobody on the membership has accused you of anything, thought anything negative of you.

                            You appear to have some differences with Todd, but those can be handled in private between the two of you, or dropped and forgotten.

                            I don't recall whether it was Woolsey, when he was Archbishop of Canterbury, or Sir Thomas Moore, or maybe even Cromwell observed, "God help the man who fights his king and wins."

                            Todd's king here, and whatever you think might be won in this public battle you're waging, you are in a no-win situation.

                            Besides, this ain't a good thing and it's accomplishing nothing.

                            Think it through, amigo.

                            Jack

                            Sorry about this mess Jack, I do apologize to any members that are offended or thought they were being targeted by any of this, they weren't. Lottery Post is a great pastime for me and I have met some great folks here, including you, my friend. It needn't go any further, what has been said has been said. If anything has been accomplished here, then admonishment lies in the beholder. Consider it done and over with as far as I'm concerned.

                            Best to you,

                            LottoVantage

                             

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                              psykomo writes:

                              ..........can you post 5 numbers

                              from a 5 number POOL........for a JACKPOT?????? for GA or TN ??????????

                              PSYKOMO would appreciate any "HELP" or positive "ENERGY" >>>>>>>>

                              Which do you want?  5 numbers or a 5 number POOL or both??????????????

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