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Dual Betting:

 

 

Sector A1V1V2V3V4Sector A2V5V6V7V8Sector A3V9V10V11V12 
H1019028037046H1127136145235H1389479569578H1
H2029038047056H2128137146236H2245489579678H2
H3039048057129H3138147156237H3246345589679H3
H4012049058067H4139148157238H4247256346689H4
H5013059068149H5158167239248H5257347356789H5
Sector B1V1V2V3V4Sector B2V5V6V7V8Sector B3V9V10V11V12 
H6014023069078H6159168249258H6267348357456H6
H7015024079123H7169178259268H7349358367457H7
H8016025034089H8124179269278H8359368458467H8
H9017026035125H9134189279369H9378459468567H9
H10018027036045H10126135234289H10379469478568H10
DateNumberSectorRow O/ECol O/EDual Sector$DD
6/1/2006903A1OO
6/2/2006796A3OE
6/3/2006538B3OE
6/5/2006068A1OO
6/6/2006121------
6/7/2006670A1EE
6/8/2006340B1EO
6/9/2006704A1EO2s
6/10/2006488------2s
6/12/2006225------2s
6/13/2006824A2OE2s100200
6/14/2006267B3EO
6/15/2006027B1EE
6/16/2006825B2EE
6/17/2006047A1EO
6/19/2006916B2OO
6/20/2006007------
6/21/2006072B1EE
6/22/2006229------
6/23/2006883------
6/24/2006291A1OE
6/26/2006247A3EO
6/27/2006143B2OO
6/28/2006148A2EE
6/29/2006187B2OE
6/30/2006813A2OO
7/1/2006938A3OO
7/3/2006782B2EE
7/4/2006750A1OO
7/5/2006530B1OO
7/6/2006722------
7/7/2006250B1EE
7/8/2006412B2EO
7/10/2006962B2EO
7/11/2006538B3OE
7/12/2006314B2OO
7/13/2006347A3OE
7/14/2006351B2EE
7/15/2006267B3EO
7/17/2006461A2EO
7/18/2006779------1s
7/19/2006347A3OE1s
7/20/2006176A2OE1s
7/21/2006910A1OO1s100200
7/22/2006060------
7/24/2006048A1OE
7/25/2006566------
7/26/2006920A1EO
7/27/2006465B3EE
7/28/2006715A2EO
7/29/2006267B3EO
7/31/2006408A1OE
8/1/2006377------
8/2/2006994------
8/3/2006589A3OO
8/4/2006306B1EO
8/5/2006933------2s
8/7/2006272------2s
8/8/2006955------2s
8/9/2006316A2OE2s100200
8/10/2006099------
8/11/2006501B1OO
8/12/2006190A1OO
8/14/2006998------
8/15/2006162B2EO3s
8/16/2006899------3s
8/17/2006110------3s
8/18/2006548B3EO3s100200
8/19/2006500------
8/21/2006343------
8/22/2006755------
8/23/2006998------
400200

 

 

This is a different phenomenon altogether. What I have done was wait until all sectors have hit except two together (such as A1/B1), but all others have hit (such as A2/B2 and A3/B3). You could do this any which way you like: A1/B1, A1/A2, etc. What I did was group the following: A1/B1, A2/B2, A3/B3.

Another way you could do this is take them in separate 40-number blocks. When one is "outstanding", then play it. However, I like to wait until all 4 sectors of the two groups have hit before playing the other group. For example, look at June 1-June 13, 2006. If you see, A1 and A3 hit, so if you group them the way that I did, then you would start playing the A2/B2 group on June 3, 2006. That thing didn't hit for 8 draws, which would have cost you $800 to win $100. That isn't really bad, but your bankroll could suffer.

I played the less aggressive approach, starting on June 9, 2006, after A1, B1, A3 & B3 had hit to start playing the 2's. My outlay was $200 to win $100, a better ratio than the alternative approach I pointed out above.

So overall, I made $400 with a max drawdown of $200. Not bad at all. Combine that with earlier wins, and over this time period, I would be up a total of $1,540 with a max drawdown of $720! In only 3 months. $500 a month extra sure would be good, wouldn't it? And if you used all 52 states/draws, then you would average about $26,000 a month! WHOA!!!!

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    The Agressive Approach to Dual Betting wasn't as bad as I thought, but I could see it becoming a problem. But in this example, you would have done well:

     

    Sector A1V1V2V3V4Sector A2V5V6V7V8Sector A3V9V10V11V12 
    H1019028037046H1127136145235H1389479569578H1
    H2029038047056H2128137146236H2245489579678H2
    H3039048057129H3138147156237H3246345589679H3
    H4012049058067H4139148157238H4247256346689H4
    H5013059068149H5158167239248H5257347356789H5
    Sector B1V1V2V3V4Sector B2V5V6V7V8Sector B3V9V10V11V12 
    H6014023069078H6159168249258H6267348357456H6
    H7015024079123H7169178259268H7349358367457H7
    H8016025034089H8124179269278H8359368458467H8
    H9017026035125H9134189279369H9378459468567H9
    H10018027036045H10126135234289H10379469478568H10
    DateNumberSectorRow O/ECol O/EDual Sector$DD
    6/1/2006903A1OOAggressive
    6/2/2006796A3OE
    6/3/2006538B3OE2s
    6/5/2006068A1OO2s
    6/6/2006121------2s
    6/7/2006670A1EE2s
    6/8/2006340B1EO2s
    6/9/2006704A1EO2s
    6/10/2006488------2s
    6/12/2006225------2s
    6/13/2006824A2OE2s801120
    6/14/2006267B3EO3s11040
    6/15/2006027B1EE1s11040
    6/16/2006825B2EE2s11040
    6/17/2006047A1EO3s
    6/19/2006916B2OO3s
    6/20/2006007------3s
    6/21/2006072B1EE3s
    6/22/2006229------3s
    6/23/2006883------3s
    6/24/2006291A1OE3s
    6/26/2006247A3EO3s100800
    6/27/2006143B2OO2s11040
    6/28/2006148A2EE1s
    6/29/2006187B2OE1s
    6/30/2006813A2OO1s
    7/1/2006938A3OO1s
    7/3/2006782B2EE1s
    7/4/2006750A1OO1s50400
    7/5/2006530B1OO3s
    7/6/2006722------3s
    7/7/2006250B1EE3s
    7/8/2006412B2EO3s
    7/10/2006962B2EO3s
    7/11/2006538B3OE3s50400
    7/12/2006314B2OO1s
    7/13/2006347A3OE1s
    7/14/2006351B2EE1s
    7/15/2006267B3EO1s
    7/17/2006461A2EO1s
    7/18/2006779------1s
    7/19/2006347A3OE1s
    7/20/2006176A2OE1s
    7/21/2006910A1OO1s801120
    7/22/2006060------3s
    7/24/2006048A1OE3s
    7/25/2006566------3s
    7/26/2006920A1EO3s
    7/27/2006465B3EE3s20280
    7/28/2006715A2EO2s11040
    7/29/2006267B3EO1s
    7/31/2006408A1OE1s7080
    8/1/2006377------2s
    8/2/2006994------2s
    8/3/2006589A3OO2s
    8/4/2006306B1EO2s
    8/5/2006933------2s
    8/7/2006272------2s
    8/8/2006955------2s
    8/9/2006316A2OE2s100800
    8/10/2006099------3s
    8/11/2006501B1OO3s
    8/12/2006190A1OO3s
    8/14/2006998------3s
    8/15/2006162B2EO3s
    8/16/2006899------3s
    8/17/2006110------3s
    8/18/2006548B3EO3s100800
    8/19/2006500------
    8/21/2006343------
    8/22/2006755------
    8/23/2006998------
    12001120

     

     

    So instead of $1,540 in wins, if you had used the Aggressive Approach, you would have been up an additional $800, for a total of $2,340 in wins over the 3 months, on a max drawdown on $1,120. You would have earned about $780 per month, or about $9,360 a year. If this performance sustained over all 52 states/draws, you would be looking at $468k a year!! Time to retire!!

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      Okay folks...the moment you have all been waiting for, the Summary of Earnings!

      Attached you will see what the totals and max drawdowns were for each type of bet we used. In the bottom right corner of the spreadsheet, you will see what the total earnings would be and probably what a safe bankroll would be for this type of earning power. In fact, I would probably have a permanent bank of 5 times that amount to be safe. But that is up to you. Remember, that these are based on $1 bets at the online stores. If you have any further questions, please feel free to drop a line here. Best of luck!

       

      DateSector$DDRow/Col$DDTop/Bottom$DDDual Sector$DDDual Sector$DDTotals$DD
      6/1/2006         Conservative  Aggressive     
      6/2/2006                  
      6/3/2006                  
      6/5/2006                  
      6/6/2006                  
      6/7/2006    30120            
      6/8/2006                  
      6/9/2006                  
      6/10/2006                  
      6/12/2006                  
      6/13/2006          100200 801120   
      6/14/2006             11040   
      6/15/2006             11040   
      6/16/2006 9060          11040   
      6/17/2006                  
      6/19/2006    9060            
      6/20/2006                  
      6/21/2006                  
      6/22/2006                  
      6/23/2006                  
      6/24/2006                  
      6/26/2006 120180          100800   
      6/27/2006             11040   
      6/28/2006 11040               
      6/29/2006                  
      6/30/2006                  
      7/1/2006                  
      7/3/2006                  
      7/4/2006             50400   
      7/5/2006                  
      7/6/2006                  
      7/7/2006                  
      7/8/2006                  
      7/10/2006                  
      7/11/2006 130320          50400   
      7/12/2006                  
      7/13/2006       60240         
      7/14/2006                  
      7/15/2006                  
      7/17/2006 50100               
      7/18/2006                  
      7/19/2006                  
      7/20/2006                  
      7/21/2006 7080       100200 801120   
      7/22/2006                  
      7/24/2006                  
      7/25/2006                  
      7/26/2006    30120            
      7/27/2006       30720    20280   
      7/28/2006             11040   
      7/29/2006                  
      7/31/2006    9060       7080   
      8/1/2006                  
      8/2/2006                  
      8/3/2006                  
      8/4/2006 70380               
      8/5/2006                  
      8/7/2006                  
      8/8/2006                  
      8/9/2006          100200 100800   
      8/10/2006                  
      8/11/2006                  
      8/12/2006                  
      8/14/2006                  
      8/15/2006 80220               
      8/16/2006                  
      8/17/2006                  
      8/18/2006 9060       100200 100800   
      8/19/2006                  
      8/21/2006                  
      8/22/2006                  
      8/23/2006                  
       810380 240120 90720 400200 12001120 27402540

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        Keith Your new chart is very good and I like it, but I could not copy the formatting for some reason, I guess my pc and or browser are configured for extra security and can't copy and paste some things

        Anyhow I made it in such a way that I could save it and upload it as a picture.

        Now it is easy for everybody to save the picture and also print it.

        For those who might not know how:

        Put the mouse's cursor on the picture and Rth click your mouse then put the cursor on "Save Picture As" and Lth click on that and save it.

        Also right then or anytime there-after you can print it, I made the picture just the right size to fit on the Pc's screen and it also prints nice in lanscape or side-ways mode on the paper so set your printer to print sideways.

        By the way, I very strongly tell everybody to download and use IrfanView if you have not done so already, it is a very great program, to me it is the best of it's kind.

        Good luck to all.

        Keep up the testing Keith it is great.

        Also your work is great, keep it up.

        Fernando.

        EXCALIBUR is no more that "Handle" is dead, gone.
        Maybe sometime in the future I might come back as LANTERN again, but maybe not, if I don't come back as LANTERN in the future then I won't come back at all, but as I said there is no more EXCALIBUR.

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          I was able to also make Keith's chart into a picture and upload it.

          Now it can be saved and also printed.

          Put the mouse's cursor on the picture and Rth click your mouse then put the cursor on "Save Picture As" and Lth click on that and save it.

          Also right then or anytime there-after you can print it, I made the picture just the right size to fit on the Pc's screen and it also prints nice in lanscape or side-ways mode on the paper so set your printer to print sideways 

          Great Chart Keith!

          EXCALIBUR is no more that "Handle" is dead, gone.
          Maybe sometime in the future I might come back as LANTERN again, but maybe not, if I don't come back as LANTERN in the future then I won't come back at all, but as I said there is no more EXCALIBUR.

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            Thank you for the pictures there Fernando. Please let me know if you want the spreadsheet version of it as well.

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              Just did a run on SOUTH CAROLINA EVENING:

              $3090 profits over the same time period...very interesting.

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                Thank You, Keith, Yes, I will P.M. my new email address to you.

                Thanks again.

                Fernando.

                EXCALIBUR is no more that "Handle" is dead, gone.
                Maybe sometime in the future I might come back as LANTERN again, but maybe not, if I don't come back as LANTERN in the future then I won't come back at all, but as I said there is no more EXCALIBUR.

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                  hi keith I also would like the spreadsheet. my e-mail is salesmn419@aol.com

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                    Keith

                    Very impressive amount of work you have done on this project! 

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                      Keith

                      Very impressive amount of work you have done on this project! 

                      Thank you TC! It's my passion to beat this crazy game. I am going to also release a "convenience store" version of the progression sometime this weekend I think if I have time. That way, if for some reason online gambling goes away, then there is something to fall back on.

                       

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                        hi keith I also would like the spreadsheet. my e-mail is salesmn419@aol.com

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                          keith I downloaded the spreadsheet and tried to replace the texas eve numbers and replace with mass. but when i entered them the chart did not change and the macro is working. Any help. how about sending a blank so I can insert myself. thanks

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                            I didn't build a program with it...it's just an info only spreadsheet.

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                              keith i understand. Another question here are the last 20 entries of sectors,most current first. what sector would I be looking to play?  A-1

                                                  A-3

                                                 A-1

                                                A-3

                                                  B-2

                                                  A-3

                                                 B-2

                                                  A-1

                                                  B-1

                                                  A-2

                                                 B-1

                                                  B-1

                                                  A-1

                                                  B-1

                                                  A-3

                                                  B-3

                                                  A-2

                                                  A-3

                                                  A-2

                                                  A-1

                              what sector and how long do I keep playing.also do I play the entire sector. thanks