Welcome Guest
Log In | Register )
You last visited January 18, 2017, 4:56 am
All times shown are
Eastern Time (GMT-5:00)

Hackers & the lottery...

Topic closed. 36 replies. Last post 10 years ago by pacattack05.

Page 2 of 3
PrintE-mailLink
Guru101's avatar - rw6jhh
Indiana
United States
Member #48725
January 7, 2007
1958 Posts
Offline
Posted: May 2, 2007, 8:29 pm - IP Logged

I have seen all those statements by computerized lotteries.  To any good programmer it really BS, because any code inserted into the process would be hidden until it needs to operate, and then it would delete itself. 

There is a simple fact about computerized drawings:  there is absolutely NO WAY to be 100% sure that it is not rigged.

On the other hand, traditional lottery drawings CAN be examined to be sure they are not rigged.

I wish all lottery drawings were done with balls instead of computer. Indiana's lottery is computerized, but I still play it. The thing that amazes is that the number 11 in Hoosier Lotto RARELY gets drawn. It was drawn on Saturday's drawing but the last time it was drawn before that was on 5/6/2006! That number will go months without being drawn. In fact, it gets picked so rarely that I decided to not even allow it in any of my picks. So now I'm playing 6/47 instead of 6/48. I know it can still be drawn, but the number is simply dead!!! I don't know if it's coincidence or what but here are the fequency of the numbers all the way back to 1/1/1990:

 

1
141


2
146


3
130


4
140


5
152


6
118


7
159


8
154


9
161


10
144


11
97


12
129


13
154


14
150


15
146


16
154


17
151


18
173


19
152


20
125


21
164


22
133


23
138


24
142


25
122


26
164


27
148


28
125


29
161


30
147


31
122


32
135


33
120


34
130


35
129


36
160


37
153


38
127


39
150


40
169


41
135


42
114


43
120


44
140


45
163


46
129


47
148


48
164

Simply amazing.

Gonna win.Big Smile

    Avatar

    United States
    Member #10720
    January 23, 2005
    933 Posts
    Offline
    Posted: May 2, 2007, 8:39 pm - IP Logged

    There is a bit of difference between a hacker and a Lotto guru. Hackers are good at writing code and figuring out ways around security methods, part of it being social engineering (i.e calling a company and impersonating someone to get inside information). It is a lot easier to read people and get around security systems because those are not as random as a Lottery is. In Hacking you're trying to reverse engineer what already happened and in Lottery you're trying to predict the future, the hardest thing to do. If I had enough money and time I'd instead by trying to predict stock prices than Lottery numbers. A good Stocks algorithm would run rings around the best Lottery system out there, as Stocks are not "meant" to be randomized. But Stocks have much more fuzzy variables thus the time factor. But if/when I get the next Pick 4 STR that will be my next project.

    Bear in mind, that if enough people learned to beat the Lottery they'd force you to only get QP, at that point I'd throw in the towel. No such problem with Stocks!

      Guru101's avatar - rw6jhh
      Indiana
      United States
      Member #48725
      January 7, 2007
      1958 Posts
      Offline
      Posted: May 2, 2007, 8:49 pm - IP Logged

      There is a bit of difference between a hacker and a Lotto guru. Hackers are good at writing code and figuring out ways around security methods, part of it being social engineering (i.e calling a company and impersonating someone to get inside information). It is a lot easier to read people and get around security systems because those are not as random as a Lottery is. In Hacking you're trying to reverse engineer what already happened and in Lottery you're trying to predict the future, the hardest thing to do. If I had enough money and time I'd instead by trying to predict stock prices than Lottery numbers. A good Stocks algorithm would run rings around the best Lottery system out there, as Stocks are not "meant" to be randomized. But Stocks have much more fuzzy variables thus the time factor. But if/when I get the next Pick 4 STR that will be my next project.

      Bear in mind, that if enough people learned to beat the Lottery they'd force you to only get QP, at that point I'd throw in the towel. No such problem with Stocks!

      "There is a bit of difference between a hacker and Lotto guru"? I'm not retarded. I was just giving my take on computerized drawings, that's all. I've been trained in computer repair, networking, and programming. I know for a fact that hackers are not dumb and slow. They are very smart, that's why they can figure out the things they figure out. Targeting that post towards me is useless.

      Gonna win.Big Smile

        jarasan's avatar - new patrick.gif
        Harbinger
        D.C./MD.
        United States
        Member #44103
        July 30, 2006
        5587 Posts
        Offline
        Posted: May 2, 2007, 11:21 pm - IP Logged

        I quit hacking when I quit smoking.

          Avatar

          Honduras
          Member #20982
          August 29, 2005
          4715 Posts
          Offline
          Posted: May 3, 2007, 11:59 pm - IP Logged

           "A person who enjoys exploring the details of programmable systems and how to stretch their capabilities, as opposed to most users, who prefer to learn only the minimum necessary."

          Who else to create a kick butt custom-made software? a hacker. A good programmer but also a hacker...to win the lottery I've come to believe that you would need a smoking custom-made software to wheel or weave numbers in a unique way...Software programmers & programs hackers are 1 step above us...The software they use to create wheels or the lotto softwares who you thing do it? Answer is Programmers...And a hacker could easily do it too..Hackers could make copies of lotto softwares and take them a step further, which is what i think is needed to win the lottery...And we will never know about it because we are not software programmers...

          And not only that but the job password hackers (or if you want to call them crackers) are doing is becomming very similar to attempting to win the lottery, and it wouldn't surprise me if password hackers had already been using our techniques and have custom-made lotto softwares to meet their needs..How? I've read it on the internet...What they got now is systems (new wave of encyption systems) with RNG's that generate a new passwords every 60 seconds others every hour and so on..And more difficult because the passwords have combination of letters & numbers...Is similar to having Keno every 4 minutes but harder...So is even harder than trying to win the lottery...And it wouldn't surprise me if hackers have custom-made lotto softwares & have won the lottery already even if is theoretically...

          and that is what password hackers and regular hackers have to deal with in today's world.. 

          And i am talking about the good hackers (as well as password hackers/crackers), the ones that are wealthy and have state of the art computers and custom-made computers hardware and softwares and perhaps hire people to do their jobs or work in teams/clubs, etc not your average hackers on the streets...But again it doesn't pay to be a hacker nowadays it pays more to be a Powerball Password Cracker/hacker...

          "One who enjoys the intellectual challenge of creatively overcoming or circumventing limitations."

          Isn't that what we are? Isn't the lottery like a limitation to reach where you want to reach...

          In a way i consider myself a password cracker or password hacker (but in an amusing sort of way) but i don't like to use the term cracker because cracker sounds like someone's on crack..Also crackers are people that  submissively do sexual favors (a street term) And if you watch the movie Swordfish you will see what the women does to Steve Jobson (hugh jackman) when he is cracking the FBI sites (So the movie is sort of teaching you what the term is in an amusing way)....In the street gangs (specially black comunity) you would hear terms like that...YOu will also hear stuff like "Someone took a tank to a Seven eleven"....I don't know if is a southern talk, a rich folks talk, or a street talk...

          If you had a smoking custom-made software and you won 9 out of the 10 last powerball draws, you will be hacking the lottery....If you had a PROVEN lotto system that can help you win Powerball every so often, and you sent an email to Powerball asking for a  VAST ramson otherwise you will win almost every powerball draw even if they raise the matrix, you will be hacking the lottery...That's what i mean by hacking the lottery...In that context i think the word "hacking" can apply too..

          I used to think that Powerball couldn't be won, but now i am more confident it can be won...All you need to do is replicate (produce) a 5/5 match every so often, which is like 1 in 2.5 millions...And i've seen LP predictors get really close by 1&1, 1&2, 2&2 numbers off with 4/6 maches off of lotto6/49 games that have 1 in 14 millions odds...It can be done...Just have to be patient...or sometimes you have to have 10K to play it...If you can win Powerbal with 10K or 100K you would have cracked Powerball..And you only have to win it ONE TIME....ONE TIME ONLY...

           

           

          "MOre important than winning the states' lotteries is the movie "Red Planet"...." 

            Avatar

            Honduras
            Member #20982
            August 29, 2005
            4715 Posts
            Offline
            Posted: May 4, 2007, 12:27 am - IP Logged

            "Bear in mind, that if enough people learned to beat the Lottery they'd force you to only get QP, at that point I'd throw in the towel. No such problem with Stocks!"

            I don't think they will be able to do it...I believe people would stop playing the lottery...

            Yeah no such problem with stocks....

             

             

            "More important than winning the states' lotteries is the movie "Red Planet"..."

              Avatar

              Honduras
              Member #20982
              August 29, 2005
              4715 Posts
              Offline
              Posted: May 4, 2007, 1:29 am - IP Logged

              "I used to think that Powerball couldn't be won, but now i am more confident it can be won...All you need to do is replicate (produce) a 5/5 match every so often, which is like 1 in 2.5 millions..."

              What i meant is that all you need to do is replicate (produce)a 5/5 match from a field of 5/55, every so often....Which a 5/55 has like 2.5 million combinations....And this is the way you should see Powerball as a 5/55...As long as you match that 5/5 from a 5/55 you will be doing Excellent...YOu don't have to see it as a pick5/55 + pick1/42....Just see it as a pick5/55...Once you overcome that challenge you will be doing excellent...

              And i've seen LP predictors get really close by 1&1, 1&2, 2&2 numbers off with 4/6 maches off of lotto6/49 games that have 1 in 14 millions odds...It can be done...Just have to be patient...or sometimes you have to have 10K to play it...If you can win Powerbal with 10K or 100K you would have cracked Powerball..And you only have to win it ONE TIME....ONE TIME ONLY...And once you win the 5/5 (5/55), even if you do not win the main jackpot, you will get 200,000 which you can use to Really win the main Jackpot in Powerball (even though i don't recommend you do to it, better use that money for something else and select like 20,000 for gambling....

                Avatar

                Honduras
                Member #20982
                August 29, 2005
                4715 Posts
                Offline
                Posted: May 4, 2007, 2:12 am - IP Logged

                 "A person who enjoys exploring the details of programmable systems and how to stretch their capabilities, as opposed to most users, who prefer to learn only the minimum necessary."

                Who else to create a kick butt custom-made software? a hacker. A good programmer but also a hacker...to win the lottery I've come to believe that you would need a smoking custom-made software to wheel or weave numbers in a unique way...Software programmers & programs hackers are 1 step above us...The software they use to create wheels or the lotto softwares who you thing do it? Answer is Programmers...And a hacker could easily do it too..Hackers could make copies of lotto softwares and take them a step further, which is what i think is needed to win the lottery...And we will never know about it because we are not software programmers...

                And not only that but the job password hackers (or if you want to call them crackers) are doing is becomming very similar to attempting to win the lottery, and it wouldn't surprise me if password hackers had already been using our techniques and have custom-made lotto softwares to meet their needs..How? I've read it on the internet...What they got now is systems (new wave of encyption systems) with RNG's that generate a new passwords every 60 seconds others every hour and so on..And more difficult because the passwords have combination of letters & numbers...Is similar to having Keno every 4 minutes but harder...So is even harder than trying to win the lottery...And it wouldn't surprise me if hackers have custom-made lotto softwares & have won the lottery already even if is theoretically...

                and that is what password hackers and regular hackers have to deal with in today's world.. 

                And i am talking about the good hackers (as well as password hackers/crackers), the ones that are wealthy and have state of the art computers and custom-made computers hardware and softwares and perhaps hire people to do their jobs or work in teams/clubs, etc not your average hackers on the streets...But again it doesn't pay to be a hacker nowadays it pays more to be a Powerball Password Cracker/hacker...

                "One who enjoys the intellectual challenge of creatively overcoming or circumventing limitations."

                Isn't that what we are? Isn't the lottery like a limitation to reach where you want to reach...

                In a way i consider myself a password cracker or password hacker (but in an amusing sort of way) but i don't like to use the term cracker because cracker sounds like someone's on crack..Also crackers are people that  submissively do sexual favors (a street term) And if you watch the movie Swordfish you will see what the women does to Steve Jobson (hugh jackman) when he is cracking the FBI sites (So the movie is sort of teaching you what the term is in an amusing way)....In the street gangs (specially black comunity) you would hear terms like that...YOu will also hear stuff like "Someone took a tank to a Seven eleven"....I don't know if is a southern talk, a rich folks talk, or a street talk...

                If you had a smoking custom-made software and you won 9 out of the 10 last powerball draws, you will be hacking the lottery....If you had a PROVEN lotto system that can help you win Powerball every so often, and you sent an email to Powerball asking for a  VAST ramson otherwise you will win almost every powerball draw even if they raise the matrix, you will be hacking the lottery...That's what i mean by hacking the lottery...In that context i think the word "hacking" can apply too..

                I used to think that Powerball couldn't be won, but now i am more confident it can be won...All you need to do is replicate (produce) a 5/5 match every so often, which is like 1 in 2.5 millions...And i've seen LP predictors get really close by 1&1, 1&2, 2&2 numbers off with 4/6 maches off of lotto6/49 games that have 1 in 14 millions odds...It can be done...Just have to be patient...or sometimes you have to have 10K to play it...If you can win Powerbal with 10K or 100K you would have cracked Powerball..And you only have to win it ONE TIME....ONE TIME ONLY...

                 

                 

                "MOre important than winning the states' lotteries is the movie "Red Planet"...." 

                "In the street gangs (specially black comunity) you would hear terms like that...YOu will also hear stuff like "Someone took a tank to a Seven eleven"....I don't know if is a southern talk, a rich folks talk, or a street talk..."

                My bad, is actually you would hear people say "Someone DROVE an army tank to a seven eleven".....

                  Avatar

                  Honduras
                  Member #20982
                  August 29, 2005
                  4715 Posts
                  Offline
                  Posted: May 4, 2007, 2:39 am - IP Logged

                  I've also heard people on the street [black people] (the very little that i've heard on the streets) call Powerball & MegaMillion as "Auto Transport" But it was a very long time when i heard this...

                   

                   

                  "MOre important than winning the states' lotteries is the movie "Red Planet"...."

                    Avatar

                    United States
                    Member #12495
                    March 15, 2005
                    76 Posts
                    Offline
                    Posted: May 4, 2007, 10:02 am - IP Logged

                    I've also heard people on the street [black people] (the very little that i've heard on the streets) call Powerball & MegaMillion as "Auto Transport" But it was a very long time when i heard this...

                     

                     

                    "MOre important than winning the states' lotteries is the movie "Red Planet"...."

                    Maybe you think too much. Could it be that what they were talking about is underground gambling?

                    If I understand correctly, what you meant by crakering down lottery is to correctly guess the RND pattern of a computor drawn lottery. I think I heard a story like that, in which a professor hit the JP twice using the pattern he figured. The whole thing brought out a law suit and the professor won.

                      Avatar

                      Honduras
                      Member #20982
                      August 29, 2005
                      4715 Posts
                      Offline
                      Posted: May 4, 2007, 10:40 am - IP Logged

                      Maybe you think too much. Could it be that what they were talking about is underground gambling?

                      If I understand correctly, what you meant by crakering down lottery is to correctly guess the RND pattern of a computor drawn lottery. I think I heard a story like that, in which a professor hit the JP twice using the pattern he figured. The whole thing brought out a law suit and the professor won.

                      About the driving the army tank to a seven eleven, i don't know what they could have meant by that...I try to think of stuff they might mean but i am lost of words...

                      about the "auto transport" i know what i heard...

                      What do you mean by RND?

                       

                       

                      "More important than winning the states' lotteries is the movie "Red Planet"....."

                        Avatar

                        Honduras
                        Member #20982
                        August 29, 2005
                        4715 Posts
                        Offline
                        Posted: May 4, 2007, 11:02 am - IP Logged

                        About the driving the army tank to a seven eleven, i don't know what they could have meant by that...I try to think of stuff they might mean but i am lost of words...

                        about the "auto transport" i know what i heard...

                        What do you mean by RND?

                         

                         

                        "More important than winning the states' lotteries is the movie "Red Planet"....."

                        RND = TNtea's Schooling = Powerball

                         

                         

                        "More important than winning the states' lotteries is the movie "Red Planet"...."

                          Avatar

                          United States
                          Member #12495
                          March 15, 2005
                          76 Posts
                          Offline
                          Posted: May 4, 2007, 11:03 am - IP Logged

                          About the driving the army tank to a seven eleven, i don't know what they could have meant by that...I try to think of stuff they might mean but i am lost of words...

                          about the "auto transport" i know what i heard...

                          What do you mean by RND?

                           

                           

                          "More important than winning the states' lotteries is the movie "Red Planet"....."

                          RND=random numbers generated from RNG, it is a common function symbol in programmer.

                          So, what you said has been done, by someone else.

                            Avatar

                            Honduras
                            Member #20982
                            August 29, 2005
                            4715 Posts
                            Offline
                            Posted: May 4, 2007, 11:08 am - IP Logged

                            RND=random numbers generated from RNG, it is a common function symbol in programmer.

                            So, what you said has been done, by someone else.

                            Incorrect!....

                            RND = TNtea's Schooling = Powerball...

                             

                             

                            "More important than winning the states' lotteries is the movie "Red Planet"...."

                              four4me's avatar - gate1
                              MD
                              United States
                              Member #1701
                              June 18, 2003
                              8392 Posts
                              Offline
                              Posted: May 4, 2007, 11:32 am - IP Logged

                              it a long standing rumor that Steve McQueen once drove a fully armed tank down the street. He left the base where he was stationed. It was how he got discovered and later became an actor.


                              On another note: No one can crack the lottery RNG code. Even if you knew which computer they were going to be using for a particular draw. Even if you had the same software they use (same chip) there is no way to know beforehand which numbers might be generated for a particular draw. About the only way it could be done is illegally from a remote location if the pc they used had remote access and you were able to program the numbers before the draw so as to manipulate the draw.

                              The places that use RNG have stated that there PC's are stand alone units with no outside access In other words they aren't connected to the Internet or a grid or other servers.