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do the lotteries have people researching systems and methods?

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What do you think, do they?

Of course they do [ 39 ]  [45.35%]
They even have people researching lucky tinkets [ 2 ]  [2.33%]
They don't need to, there is no system that works [ 26 ]  [30.23%]
no, they just change matrixes and games [ 12 ]  [13.95%]
Other- explain [ 7 ]  [8.14%]
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Posted: May 8, 2007, 10:44 am - IP Logged

Do you think the lotteries have some employess that are assigned to track systems, try and develop systems, and methods? By methods I mean like the group that hit Virginia.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

Lep

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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    Posted: May 8, 2007, 11:04 am - IP Logged

    This is a very good topic Coin Toss,  I believe they do in an attempt to reduce their

    losses.  I also believe the majority of defense that the lottery plays comes from GTech

    themselves.  I just dont believe that GTech is a honest company.  They make sooo much

    money from the states themselves you would think that they didnt need to play defense

    But I do believe that it happens but thats just my opinion.  But at the end of the day a winning

    number has to be reported so thats your chance.  I dont think that Illinois has won the Mega

    Millions since the name was changed from the Big Game years ago

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      Posted: May 8, 2007, 11:22 am - IP Logged

      This is a very good topic Coin Toss,  I believe they do in an attempt to reduce their

      losses.  I also believe the majority of defense that the lottery plays comes from GTech

      themselves.  I just dont believe that GTech is a honest company.  They make sooo much

      money from the states themselves you would think that they didnt need to play defense

      But I do believe that it happens but thats just my opinion.  But at the end of the day a winning

      number has to be reported so thats your chance.  I dont think that Illinois has won the Mega

      Millions since the name was changed from the Big Game years ago

      I don't know about GTech, but it would be in the best interest of the lotteries to have people who researched systems available to the pubic to reduce their losses. So I voted "of course they do." But I can save them some time here and now... Most of those systems don't work. I have tried too many to be convinced they will ever come up with one that does work for all games or even consecutively on just one jackpot game. Just my opinion. And then again, you only have to be right one time to make a difference.

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        Posted: May 8, 2007, 11:35 am - IP Logged

        They must! How many times have you been 1 or 2 numbers off on your tickets??? It seems they are always one step ahead!

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          Posted: May 8, 2007, 12:22 pm - IP Logged

          I have a reliable source and I know for a fact that the Keno in Rhode Island can be fixed when they need to fix it. As far as the pick4 is concerned I think that is done relatively fair.

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            Posted: May 8, 2007, 1:08 pm - IP Logged

            Before a game ever goes on line, its design is tested and checked for profitability.  If profits aren't as expected then the lotteries probably check to find out why as PowerBall did when they had all those winners using the fortune cookie number, but I think the systems they check most are their own to make sure no one on the inside is taking advantage of a flaw.  Even being able to buy all the possible combinations when it's profitable is a flaw so most lotteries have rules to try and prevent that.

            I doubt if they waste their time tracking lottery systems advertised to the public because it makes no sense for anyone to try and make money by selling a system that makes money.  Besides, those systems are sold for entertainment only as printed in their disclaimers. 

             * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
               
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              Posted: May 8, 2007, 1:13 pm - IP Logged

              Ok, do they not only have people testing systems they come across via boards like this, other sites, system sellers ike Steve Player, but do they also have their own people developing systems to see if any would work?

              Part II of question:

              And if one of their researchers said, "Hey, this thing is predicting winners, six of six time after time" would they have to pay that person off?  Offer them a very sweet bonus not to "spread the word"?

              Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

              Lep

              There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                Posted: May 8, 2007, 1:26 pm - IP Logged

                Ok, do they not only have people testing systems they come across via boards like this, other sites, system sellers ike Steve Player, but do they also have their own people developing systems to see if any would work?

                Part II of question:

                And if one of their researchers said, "Hey, this thing is predicting winners, six of six time after time" would they have to pay that person off?  Offer them a very sweet bonus not to "spread the word"?

                Part II

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                  Posted: May 8, 2007, 1:32 pm - IP Logged

                  I don't think they would have their own people developing systems,it would cost too much in labor hours. But as far as having people check out systems that are on the market,you can bet your boots they're testing those!

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                    Posted: May 8, 2007, 1:49 pm - IP Logged

                    "And if one of their researchers said, "Hey, this thing is predicting winners, six of six time after time" would they have to pay that person off?  Offer them a very sweet bonus not to "spread the word"?"

                    Why would anyone have to be  offered a sweet bonus not to spread the word about a system that consistently pick winners in a pick6 game? 

                    1. He would be making his own bonus deal every time he played and won.
                    2. Why would he spoil it by spreading the word even to the lottery.

                     * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                       
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                      Posted: May 8, 2007, 2:02 pm - IP Logged

                      In my Opinion..you can forget about getting..buying..building..stealing..using VooDoo..or anything else on those big games..they are not going to let you get a numerical advantage anyway shape..form or fashion..those Jackpot games would cost them way to much money if anyone was able to obtain a numerical advantage in those games..that is why they go through THEIR so called TESTING THE EQUIPMENT bullsh$t line they feed to everyone ...I said it once..I will say it agan..it is to mess up the natural flow of the numbers so that smart people cant use it to their advantage.. it would also cost the lotteries some big bucks by winning the big games more often than they want you to...

                      "Attention all Mathematicians: Check your degree at the door because when it comes to whole numbers you are the Amateur"

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                        Posted: May 8, 2007, 2:28 pm - IP Logged

                        i chose other explain because i think they are doing research to make our odds of winning alot worse than they already are...

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                          Posted: May 8, 2007, 2:55 pm - IP Logged

                          since most lottery's have caps on their games i doubt if they care about systems.

                          I'm sure more than one person has walked into a lottery claim center and bragged about how their system made them some money. 

                          the main thing the lottery cares about is sales and getting as many people as they can to play.

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                            Posted: May 8, 2007, 3:03 pm - IP Logged

                            Perhaps. 

                            If a state has computerized drawings the officials want to make sure that no one is trying to break into the system to manipulate it in some way.

                            For ball drawings it's timing. There is a specific amount of time set aside for the drawings, it's how much time is spent between when the machines are turned on & when the #s are selected. Furthermore it goes back to pretesting. Again, timing & the amount of pretests. 

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                              Posted: May 8, 2007, 3:39 pm - IP Logged

                              How would they change it if they did notice something ?

                              Think of ALL the folks over the years that have been tracking and calculating the games, yet it can go for weeks or even months between wins.

                              As I have said a million times: I think people can devise a system to get 3 x 5 on a semi-consistent basis, but that's not good enough.