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• paurths

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by pacattack05 on Aug 19, 2007

  Here's an excerpt describing how improbable that 20 times in a row is. People keep using the number 20. 10 is acceptable, but 20 goes into the millions. So it might happen, but that is not the norm. Trust me.

  You remeber our experiment with the coin toss?.....Suppose we had heads come up 10 times in a row. Now it's true we cannot be positive that heads will not come up another 10 times in a row. But how would you bet? If you just flipped a coin and had 10 heads in a row, then someone made you a 50/50 bet that heads would come up another 10 times straight...would you take that bet?  Or would you tell them that no one can predict a random event ahead of time? You would be a fool not to bet. By assuming heads will not come up another 10 times, you are using pattern verification. You may not know exactly what may happen for the next 10 tosses, but you know that 10 more heads are very unlikely.

  The odds against heads showing up 20 times in a row are in a millions to one range.

  The coin toss is pretty interesting, and also the easiest to explain.

  Is it possible to toss a coin and get heads 1 million times in a row?
  The answer is yes!

  Now, what changes is the circumstances in which the coinn is tossed.
  In first instance we might think of with what strength, in combination with what angle the coin is thrown in the air.
  Secondly, there's the weather circumstances and surrounding "vibrations" (this might be the wind, or inside a casino, where there's no wind, it might be the trembling in the air of people speaking, moving their arms, etcetera etcetera...)
  Earth rotation.
  Might be silly, but distance of the moon (or any other massive structure)

  So, if "we" had a machine that would annihilate all those circumstance, and would throw up a coin inside these "never changing circumstances", at the same speed, same strenght and same angle, the result would always be the same.

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• paurths

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by pacattack05 on Aug 19, 2007

  The coin flip is a fundamental example of what other procedures are needed in order to be successful.

  He addresses this point and expalins in detail how to utilize this method with games that are more compicated than just a 50/50 chance, like lotto, horses, dogs...etc....

  I truly believe that this is not your conventional methods being widely used. I like it's originality, and it just makes plain sense.

   After reading this material over and over, trying to understand what I had skimmed over and over, I realized that the more I read this the more I'm understanding the complicated parts which I was having diffuculty with. It's amazing to me.

  What I want to do after reading this another few times tonight and tomorrow, will be to create an experiment. Using the 50/50 rule, and the other methods of "Pattern Verification", I'll hope to hone my skills. Then would I try to narrow the odds to single digits, using the same theories.

   I will attempt to decide which half of the p-3 will come out in Florida. 000-499 or 500-999?

  If I'm successsful with that part above, then I'll attempt more complicated procedures, which I hope the programming gurus will step up to the plate and not just benefit me, but everyone else here on the LP....lol

  More to come.

  Assuming one would play online, where the payout is 900 to 1, so a straight hit delivers $900 if played at $1 a number.

  There is one major problem when applying the "playing 000-499 or 500-999",

  the amount one would have to spend would be total horror.

  Here's an example, if one would play 500 numbers:

   

  Day	Amount/day ($)	Total amount ($)	Prize if hit ($)	Result ($)	Amount ($) per Nbr
  1	500	500	900	400	1
  2	1500	2000	2700	700	3
  3	4500	6500	8100	1600	9
  4	14000	20500	25200	4700	28
  5	43500	64000	78300	14300	87
  6	134500	198500	242100	43600	269
  7	416500	615000	749700	134700	833
  8	1289500	1904500	2321100	416600	2579
  9	3993000	5897500	7187400	1289900	7986

  This table shows what amount would be needed to play each day, to eventually make a profit.
  All figures are in $.
  The result is the profit that is made whenever the structure comes in.

  Assuming one would start playing her/his strategy when there has been a skip of 20 draws or so of all numbers below 500,
  she or he would start playing all numbers higher than 499.
  This is just an example for 9 days, and the final bet, at day 9, is already worth spending just shy of 4 million dollars!!!
  But the total amount spent is then already almost 6 million dollars!

  Anyone who could afford to spend that much money is very unlikely to play the Pick3-game... 

   

  Here is an example of playing progression with 50 straight numbers:

   

  Day	Amount/day	Total amount	Prize if hit	Result	Amount per Nbr
  1	50	50	900	850	1
  2	50	100	900	800	1
  3	50	150	900	750	1
  4	50	200	900	700	1
  5	50	250	900	650	1
  6	50	300	900	600	1
  7	50	350	900	550	1
  8	50	400	900	500	1
  9	50	450	900	450	1
  10	50	500	900	400	1
  11	50	550	900	350	1
  12	50	600	900	300	1
  13	50	650	900	250	1
  14	50	700	900	200	1
  15	50	750	900	150	1
  16	50	800	900	100	1
  17	50	850	900	50	1
  18	100	950	1800	850	2
  19	100	1050	1800	750	2
  20	100	1150	1800	650	2
  21	100	1250	1800	550	2
  22	100	1350	1800	450	2
  23	100	1450	1800	350	2
  24	100	1550	1800	250	2
  25	100	1650	1800	150	2
  26	100	1750	1800	50	2
  27	150	1900	2700	800	3
  28	150	2050	2700	650	3
  29	150	2200	2700	500	3
  30	150	2350	2700	350	3
  31	150	2500	2700	200	3
  32	150	2650	2700	50	3
  33	200	2850	3600	750	4
  34	200	3050	3600	550	4
  35	200	3250	3600	350	4
  36	200	3450	3600	150	4
  37	250	3700	4500	800	5
  38	250	3950	4500	550	5
  39	250	4200	4500	300	5
  40	250	4450	4500	50	5

  Playing progression-wise requires these things:
  - Bankroll to backup your bets
  - Discipline (don't start playing numbers at random hoping you get "lucky", don't panic if the structure stays "missing" --> you must have the bankroll!)
  - Stay below the maximum wager of the locatio (site) you are playing your progression.

  Here's the same progression, but starting at $0.25 per number:
  

  Day	Amount/day	Total amount	Prize if hit	Result	Amount per Nbr
  1	12,5	12,5	225	212,5	0,25
  2	12,5	25	225	200	0,25
  3	12,5	37,5	225	187,5	0,25
  4	12,5	50	225	175	0,25
  5	12,5	62,5	225	162,5	0,25
  6	12,5	75	225	150	0,25
  7	12,5	87,5	225	137,5	0,25
  8	12,5	100	225	125	0,25
  9	12,5	112,5	225	112,5	0,25
  10	12,5	125	225	100	0,25
  11	12,5	137,5	225	87,5	0,25
  12	12,5	150	225	75	0,25
  13	12,5	162,5	225	62,5	0,25
  14	12,5	175	225	50	0,25
  15	12,5	187,5	225	37,5	0,25
  16	12,5	200	225	25	0,25
  17	12,5	212,5	225	12,5	0,25
  18	25	237,5	450	212,5	0,5
  19	25	262,5	450	187,5	0,5
  20	25	287,5	450	162,5	0,5
  21	25	312,5	450	137,5	0,5
  22	25	337,5	450	112,5	0,5
  23	25	362,5	450	87,5	0,5
  24	25	387,5	450	62,5	0,5
  25	25	412,5	450	37,5	0,5
  26	25	437,5	450	12,5	0,5
  27	37,5	475	675	200	0,75
  28	37,5	512,5	675	162,5	0,75
  29	37,5	550	675	125	0,75
  30	37,5	587,5	675	87,5	0,75
  31	37,5	625	675	50	0,75
  32	37,5	662,5	675	12,5	0,75
  33	50	712,5	900	187,5	1
  34	50	762,5	900	137,5	1
  35	50	812,5	900	87,5	1
  36	50	862,5	900	37,5	1
  37	62,5	925	1125	200	1,25
  38	62,5	987,5	1125	137,5	1,25
  39	62,5	1050	1125	75	1,25
  40	62,5	1112,5	1125	12,5	1,25

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• paurths

  

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  Some people play like 4 numbers a day, max.
  Sure, if their number comes in, that is very nice.

  The probability however of their number coming in is low.

  The more numbers played, the higher the probability to have a hit.
  But ofcourse the less  the amount won, net.

  Someone who wants to get rich playing the lotto should stay away from the pick3 game, and even the pick4 game.
  The payouts are too low to become a millionair overnight.

  On the other hand, if you settle for less, a few hundred every so few months, there is perspective in this game.
  One can even make their bankroll grow as the hits come in. But she or he must be patient. (also, the bankroll should be money that can be missed, one should not be needing it to make sure they have food on their table)
  Then, at a certain time within the progressionsplay, when the bankroll allows it, start playing at a higher amount per number. The payout will also be higher.
  Lots of time may go between the first and second step, but for the player that has the discipline that doesn't matter.
  Then comes along the third step, again double the starting amount played per number.
  Another way is when the bankroll has grown, start playing more states at the same time.

  Just my 2 cents...

  cheers
  Ricky

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• pacattack05

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  Quote: Originally posted by paurths on Aug 20, 2007

  Assuming one would play online, where the payout is 900 to 1, so a straight hit delivers $900 if played at $1 a number.

  There is one major problem when applying the "playing 000-499 or 500-999",

  the amount one would have to spend would be total horror.

  Here's an example, if one would play 500 numbers:

   

  Day	Amount/day ($)	Total amount ($)	Prize if hit ($)	Result ($)	Amount ($) per Nbr
  1	500	500	900	400	1
  2	1500	2000	2700	700	3
  3	4500	6500	8100	1600	9
  4	14000	20500	25200	4700	28
  5	43500	64000	78300	14300	87
  6	134500	198500	242100	43600	269
  7	416500	615000	749700	134700	833
  8	1289500	1904500	2321100	416600	2579
  9	3993000	5897500	7187400	1289900	7986

  This table shows what amount would be needed to play each day, to eventually make a profit.
  All figures are in $.
  The result is the profit that is made whenever the structure comes in.

  Assuming one would start playing her/his strategy when there has been a skip of 20 draws or so of all numbers below 500,
  she or he would start playing all numbers higher than 499.
  This is just an example for 9 days, and the final bet, at day 9, is already worth spending just shy of 4 million dollars!!!
  But the total amount spent is then already almost 6 million dollars!

  Anyone who could afford to spend that much money is very unlikely to play the Pick3-game... 

   

  Here is an example of playing progression with 50 straight numbers:

   

  Day	Amount/day	Total amount	Prize if hit	Result	Amount per Nbr
  1	50	50	900	850	1
  2	50	100	900	800	1
  3	50	150	900	750	1
  4	50	200	900	700	1
  5	50	250	900	650	1
  6	50	300	900	600	1
  7	50	350	900	550	1
  8	50	400	900	500	1
  9	50	450	900	450	1
  10	50	500	900	400	1
  11	50	550	900	350	1
  12	50	600	900	300	1
  13	50	650	900	250	1
  14	50	700	900	200	1
  15	50	750	900	150	1
  16	50	800	900	100	1
  17	50	850	900	50	1
  18	100	950	1800	850	2
  19	100	1050	1800	750	2
  20	100	1150	1800	650	2
  21	100	1250	1800	550	2
  22	100	1350	1800	450	2
  23	100	1450	1800	350	2
  24	100	1550	1800	250	2
  25	100	1650	1800	150	2
  26	100	1750	1800	50	2
  27	150	1900	2700	800	3
  28	150	2050	2700	650	3
  29	150	2200	2700	500	3
  30	150	2350	2700	350	3
  31	150	2500	2700	200	3
  32	150	2650	2700	50	3
  33	200	2850	3600	750	4
  34	200	3050	3600	550	4
  35	200	3250	3600	350	4
  36	200	3450	3600	150	4
  37	250	3700	4500	800	5
  38	250	3950	4500	550	5
  39	250	4200	4500	300	5
  40	250	4450	4500	50	5

  Playing progression-wise requires these things:
  - Bankroll to backup your bets
  - Discipline (don't start playing numbers at random hoping you get "lucky", don't panic if the structure stays "missing" --> you must have the bankroll!)
  - Stay below the maximum wager of the locatio (site) you are playing your progression.

  Here's the same progression, but starting at $0.25 per number:
  

  Day	Amount/day	Total amount	Prize if hit	Result	Amount per Nbr
  1	12,5	12,5	225	212,5	0,25
  2	12,5	25	225	200	0,25
  3	12,5	37,5	225	187,5	0,25
  4	12,5	50	225	175	0,25
  5	12,5	62,5	225	162,5	0,25
  6	12,5	75	225	150	0,25
  7	12,5	87,5	225	137,5	0,25
  8	12,5	100	225	125	0,25
  9	12,5	112,5	225	112,5	0,25
  10	12,5	125	225	100	0,25
  11	12,5	137,5	225	87,5	0,25
  12	12,5	150	225	75	0,25
  13	12,5	162,5	225	62,5	0,25
  14	12,5	175	225	50	0,25
  15	12,5	187,5	225	37,5	0,25
  16	12,5	200	225	25	0,25
  17	12,5	212,5	225	12,5	0,25
  18	25	237,5	450	212,5	0,5
  19	25	262,5	450	187,5	0,5
  20	25	287,5	450	162,5	0,5
  21	25	312,5	450	137,5	0,5
  22	25	337,5	450	112,5	0,5
  23	25	362,5	450	87,5	0,5
  24	25	387,5	450	62,5	0,5
  25	25	412,5	450	37,5	0,5
  26	25	437,5	450	12,5	0,5
  27	37,5	475	675	200	0,75
  28	37,5	512,5	675	162,5	0,75
  29	37,5	550	675	125	0,75
  30	37,5	587,5	675	87,5	0,75
  31	37,5	625	675	50	0,75
  32	37,5	662,5	675	12,5	0,75
  33	50	712,5	900	187,5	1
  34	50	762,5	900	137,5	1
  35	50	812,5	900	87,5	1
  36	50	862,5	900	37,5	1
  37	62,5	925	1125	200	1,25
  38	62,5	987,5	1125	137,5	1,25
  39	62,5	1050	1125	75	1,25
  40	62,5	1112,5	1125	12,5	1,25

  I was in no way suggesting to apply the method towards playing the p=3 in that large scale, but only as 50/50 tryout, to see if I could pick one or the other correctly.

  Just using the p-3 as a random event that is being monitered, allowing reults that are actual, and not tampered with.
• paurths

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by pacattack05 on Aug 20, 2007

  I was in no way suggesting to apply the method towards playing the p=3 in that large scale, but only as 50/50 tryout, to see if I could pick one or the other correctly.

  Just using the p-3 as a random event that is being monitered, allowing reults that are actual, and not tampered with.

  Tonight the number in Florida will be lower than 500!

  Or at least, it should be!

  Remeber that thread from 2 years ago? I don't remember who started it, might have been you lol, about how the first digit is "practically" never a high (or low) digit for 5 draws in a row or so? 

  Well, FL had these high numbers the past  5 draws...
  657
  554
  781
  963
  654

  Then again, one could use this strategy for every position!!!
  Heck, this might be very very very interesting!! 

  Look at the second position
  657
  554
  781
  963
  654

  It also needs a low digit.
  Third position needs a high digit.
  This narrows it down to 125 numbers. (or LLH - straight filtering)
  138, 139, 145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 205, 206, 207, 208, 209, 215, 216, 217, 218, 219, 235, 236, 237, 238, 239, 245, 246, 247, 248, 249, 305, 306, 307, 308, 309, 315, 316, 317, 318, 319, 325, 326, 327, 328, 329, 345, 346, 347, 348, 349, 405, 406, 407, 408, 409, 415, 416, 417, 418, 419, 425, 426, 427, 428, 429, 435, 436, 437, 438, 439
  005, 006, 007, 008, 009, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119, 225, 226, 227, 228, 229, 335, 336, 337, 338, 339, 445, 446, 447, 448, 449
  

  
  cheers
  Ricky

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• CARBOB

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by paurths on Aug 20, 2007

  Tonight the number in Florida will be lower than 500!

  Or at least, it should be!

  Remeber that thread from 2 years ago? I don't remember who started it, might have been you lol, about how the first digit is "practically" never a high (or low) digit for 5 draws in a row or so? 

  Well, FL had these high numbers the past  5 draws...
  657
  554
  781
  963
  654

  Then again, one could use this strategy for every position!!!
  Heck, this might be very very very interesting!! 

  Look at the second position
  657
  554
  781
  963
  654

  It also needs a low digit.
  Third position needs a high digit.
  This narrows it down to 125 numbers. (or LLH - straight filtering)
  138, 139, 145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 205, 206, 207, 208, 209, 215, 216, 217, 218, 219, 235, 236, 237, 238, 239, 245, 246, 247, 248, 249, 305, 306, 307, 308, 309, 315, 316, 317, 318, 319, 325, 326, 327, 328, 329, 345, 346, 347, 348, 349, 405, 406, 407, 408, 409, 415, 416, 417, 418, 419, 425, 426, 427, 428, 429, 435, 436, 437, 438, 439
  005, 006, 007, 008, 009, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119, 225, 226, 227, 228, 229, 335, 336, 337, 338, 339, 445, 446, 447, 448, 449
  

  
  cheers
  Ricky

  Ricky,

   

   2 numbers from 1 draw to repeat is past due. 

  This narrows it down to 125 numbers. (or LLH - straight filtering)
  138, 139, 145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 205, 206, 207, 208, 209, 215, 216, 217, 218, 219, 235, 236, 237, 238, 239, 245, 246, 247, 248, 249, 305, 306, 307, 308, 309, 315, 316, 317, 318, 319, 325, 326, 327, 328, 329, 345, 346, 347, 348, 349, 405, 406, 407, 408, 409, 415, 416, 417, 418, 419, 425, 426, 427, 428, 429, 435, 436, 437, 438, 439
  005, 006, 007, 008, 009, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119, 225, 226, 227, 228, 229, 335, 336, 337, 338, 339, 445, 446, 447, 448, 449
• pacattack05

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  Quote: Originally posted by paurths on Aug 20, 2007

  Tonight the number in Florida will be lower than 500!

  Or at least, it should be!

  Remeber that thread from 2 years ago? I don't remember who started it, might have been you lol, about how the first digit is "practically" never a high (or low) digit for 5 draws in a row or so? 

  Well, FL had these high numbers the past  5 draws...
  657
  554
  781
  963
  654

  Then again, one could use this strategy for every position!!!
  Heck, this might be very very very interesting!! 

  Look at the second position
  657
  554
  781
  963
  654

  It also needs a low digit.
  Third position needs a high digit.
  This narrows it down to 125 numbers. (or LLH - straight filtering)
  138, 139, 145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 205, 206, 207, 208, 209, 215, 216, 217, 218, 219, 235, 236, 237, 238, 239, 245, 246, 247, 248, 249, 305, 306, 307, 308, 309, 315, 316, 317, 318, 319, 325, 326, 327, 328, 329, 345, 346, 347, 348, 349, 405, 406, 407, 408, 409, 415, 416, 417, 418, 419, 425, 426, 427, 428, 429, 435, 436, 437, 438, 439
  005, 006, 007, 008, 009, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119, 225, 226, 227, 228, 229, 335, 336, 337, 338, 339, 445, 446, 447, 448, 449
  

  
  cheers
  Ricky

  LOL...Yep that was me. I still utilize that and other narrowing down methods.

  Those numbers up there are looking good. I like the ones that start with 4, 0, and 1.
• Stack47

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 19, 2007

  Baccarat might be the closest casino games to 50/50 and playing streaks is a strategy. They will even give you a card and a pencil to track the streaks.

  "I will attempt to decide which half of the p-3 will come out in Florida. 000-499 or 500-999?"

  In Pick-3 games the digits will either be odd or even; flip a coin for each position or play a streak. Do the same for high or low and at the most you'll only have 27 straight combos. In Florida the first digit was high the last 5 draws; will the steak continue?

  Read a gambling book by Lyle Stuart who was known for making huge bets at Craps and Baccarat tables. Baccarat is a game of steaks on the Bank or the Player and his strategy was to either bet the streak would continue or not bet at all.

  The Pick-3 was 963 in Florida tonight so the streak of high digits is up to 6.
• pacattack05

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  Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 20, 2007

  Read a gambling book by Lyle Stuart who was known for making huge bets at Craps and Baccarat tables. Baccarat is a game of steaks on the Bank or the Player and his strategy was to either bet the streak would continue or not bet at all.

  The Pick-3 was 963 in Florida tonight so the streak of high digits is up to 6.

  So strange, that all these posts going around about odds and other things.

  963....two days after it already hit str8 in Florida. Again like in 4 month's time, with other sets of numbers.
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  Quote: Originally posted by pacattack05 on Aug 19, 2007

  The coin flip is a fundamental example of what other procedures are needed in order to be successful.

  He addresses this point and expalins in detail how to utilize this method with games that are more compicated than just a 50/50 chance, like lotto, horses, dogs...etc....

  I truly believe that this is not your conventional methods being widely used. I like it's originality, and it just makes plain sense.

   After reading this material over and over, trying to understand what I had skimmed over and over, I realized that the more I read this the more I'm understanding the complicated parts which I was having diffuculty with. It's amazing to me.

  What I want to do after reading this another few times tonight and tomorrow, will be to create an experiment. Using the 50/50 rule, and the other methods of "Pattern Verification", I'll hope to hone my skills. Then would I try to narrow the odds to single digits, using the same theories.

   I will attempt to decide which half of the p-3 will come out in Florida. 000-499 or 500-999?

  If I'm successsful with that part above, then I'll attempt more complicated procedures, which I hope the programming gurus will step up to the plate and not just benefit me, but everyone else here on the LP....lol

  More to come.

  packattack05, et al Regarding Koycerin Methodology-

  @pack you have PM from me awaiting your attention-

  Do you, or anyone else interested in the methodology,  have any updates ???

  I bought the entire program and want to share my initial reservations:

  1. cannot locate any validation anywhere on the existence a Dr and or Professor John Koycerin.

  2. these materials seem to be generated by an infamous systems paper mill from some wise guy operation in Brooklyn- totally without any credibility.

  Before going on, it would be instructive to see more positive/negative feedback from the LB.

  Thanks in advance for your replies-

   

  Regards,

  EddessaKnight
• JAP69

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by LANTERN on Aug 18, 2007

  I hope that Win D does not get upset about this tread or post! 

  I am kind of back, I am too addicted to posting to not post sometimes.

  You might say that there is nothing logical about random, so,  How can there be logical prediction systems?

  The problem is that you think that there is random, after all there is the word and has a definition:

  Let us take a look at some definitions:

   

  • lacking any definite plan or order or purpose; governed by or depending on chance; "a random choice"; "bombs fell at random"; "random movements"
  • taken haphazardly; "a random choice"
  • It says "Governed by chance" And What is chance? It is not anything either same as random.
  • Nothing is governed by "Chance, but by "Natural" universal laws, Physical-Chemical laws.
  • Or as they say "For every action there is a reaction", it does not go like: For every chance  there is a reaction, chance does not cause a reaction, an action is produced by a previous action, not by something called "Chance".
  • Nothing can scape physical-chemical universal laws, everything and anything most follow them, no matter what they might tell you, but random and chance are not universal laws.
  • --------------------------Next:
  • In ordinary language, the word random is used to express apparent lack of purpose or cause. This suggests that no matter what the cause of something, its nature is not only unknown but the consequences of its operation are also unknown.
  • That next definition appears to be just a little more In-Tune with reality.
  • In ordinary language, the word random is used to express apparent lack of purpose or cause. This suggests that no matter what the cause of something, its nature is not only unknown but the consequences of its operation are also unknown.
  • That is more like it:
  • There is a cuse or causes, but they are unknown.
  • There appears to be a lack of purpose, but only appears to be, there is no lack, the purpose is just unknown to us.
  • The nature and the purpose are not Random, they are just unknown to us.
  • -----------------------------------------
  • So if thru study the unknown becomes a little less unknown are more known then there can be somewhat logical and ilogical prediction lottery techniques.
  • ----------
  • Due to the many "Unknown" and changing actions that cause reactions or a reaction, the flow of actions (Reactions) appear to be random.

  There-fore that wouild make "Static" prediction methods useless for the most part or a great deal of the time.

  Even Unknown (What appears to be Chaos)  has sort of "Common Sense" "Rules".

  They can be called "Statistical" rules. 

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  For example take a pick 3 game and its 3 positions: 

  123

  Common sense statistic would tell us that on any one digit position the same digit number can't keep on showing up on straight sequence draw after draw after draw and so on "Amen" forever.

  While it is not impossible for such to happen, it is "Practicaly" impossible for it to happen.

  As you can see I can't spell the words right.

  So if that is true then what happened to the unpredictability of so called made up "Random"

  It appears as if it is not as unpredictable after all.

  
  Statistics and common sense tell us that there are  what I would call "Degrees of predictability"

  More or less sort of flexible limits, there are more or less flexible averages, upper and lower limits.

  What we are looking for are the "Most" rules, that is what happens the most often, over-all and also at a pariticular strecht of times and at repetitions.

  Also at Average Lower, Medium and Upper Limits. The "Most" or "Most Common" averages, both at particular Times and overall for a given long stretch of time.

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  Logical then might mean: Logical according to whatever stats are used.

  A good enough (To some degree) prediction system might or would have both: Static and dynamic elements.

  It might have static rules by which the dynamic elements of the system are figured out and used.

  -----------

  Using something like:

  +1, -3, 0

  Would be much more a static system than a dynamic one, but it is a little dynamic.

  Just the same, it might be no good at least no very often.

  I would not use that as a for-ever prediction technique, nor anything such as that, at very particular times something such as that could be one part of a prediction technique, that might work (Maybe) for a very short period of time.

  Past stats might tell you when something like that might have some prediction value at some time(s).

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  It is not that no system works, only that we might not have a system that does work, there stil might be a system that works, somebody might have it or nobody might yet.

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  They say the lottery numbers are drawn at random.

  Lottery numbers are drawn from random.

  When the final ball drops the random stops and the result becomes fact.

  The fact then becomes a statistic.

  Stats are used to determine the final fact of the next random event. We do not always get it right but we are working on it.

  Numbers are where you find them.
  

  Str8 hunter.
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  I will be trying in the months ahead to take the "Random Bull" by the horns and see if I can tame it a bit.

  

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  "Ten measures of beauty descended to the world, nine were taken by Jerusalem."
• Guru101

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by pacattack05 on Aug 19, 2007

  The coin flip is a fundamental example of what other procedures are needed in order to be successful.

  He addresses this point and expalins in detail how to utilize this method with games that are more compicated than just a 50/50 chance, like lotto, horses, dogs...etc....

  I truly believe that this is not your conventional methods being widely used. I like it's originality, and it just makes plain sense.

   After reading this material over and over, trying to understand what I had skimmed over and over, I realized that the more I read this the more I'm understanding the complicated parts which I was having diffuculty with. It's amazing to me.

  What I want to do after reading this another few times tonight and tomorrow, will be to create an experiment. Using the 50/50 rule, and the other methods of "Pattern Verification", I'll hope to hone my skills. Then would I try to narrow the odds to single digits, using the same theories.

   I will attempt to decide which half of the p-3 will come out in Florida. 000-499 or 500-999?

  If I'm successsful with that part above, then I'll attempt more complicated procedures, which I hope the programming gurus will step up to the plate and not just benefit me, but everyone else here on the LP....lol

  More to come.

  If I'm successsful with that part above, then I'll attempt more complicated procedures, which I hope the programming gurus will step up to the plate and not just benefit me, but everyone else here on the LP....lol

  You know, I've been thinking about that a little bit. I don't play Pick 3 or Pick 4, but I do play Pick 5 and Pick 6. I found many things that will eliminate millions of non-winning combinations, and I really do think a jackpot win could be any day now. If that happens, I might decide to convert it to match another state's Pick 5 or Pick 6 game so other people from here who are from that state can play some numbers that I'll post if they want to. Of course, I'm not making any promises. Plus, there's always the question of "Which will be the lucky state?".

  Gonna win.
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  "If I'm successsful with that part above, then I'll attempt more complicated procedures, which I hope the programming gurus will step up to the plate and not just benefit me, but everyone else here on the LP....lol"

  posted by pacattack05

   

  "LOL" , you make joke, right?  Do you really believe there exists a plate for programmers to step up to for your benefits and those of other LP members?  Keep dreaming and good luck.

   * you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones * 

         
  
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  Quote: Originally posted by eddessaknight on Sep 17, 2007

  packattack05, et al Regarding Koycerin Methodology-

  @pack you have PM from me awaiting your attention-

  Do you, or anyone else interested in the methodology,  have any updates ???

  I bought the entire program and want to share my initial reservations:

  1. cannot locate any validation anywhere on the existence a Dr and or Professor John Koycerin.

  2. these materials seem to be generated by an infamous systems paper mill from some wise guy operation in Brooklyn- totally without any credibility.

  Before going on, it would be instructive to see more positive/negative feedback from the LB.

  Thanks in advance for your replies-

   

  Regards,

  EddessaKnight

  My money says that "Koycerin" is a fictional character created so that a 5 pound bag of bull crap can be packaged to look like a 10 pound bag of fertilizer. In the future it might be a good idea to do that search before buying the entire program, even if you only "buy it" in the sense of putting any faith in it. After reading Pac's description I'm wondering if he can get out the door of his house. His ass must be enormous with all that smoke that's been blown up it.