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Most don't play enough numbers to profit at Pick 3 !

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WIN  D's avatar - q05Q0
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Posted: October 23, 2007, 9:14 pm - IP Logged

Without reading ALL pages on this post<<<<it appear's that this

pur soul<<<<<<<straightchaser.......KNOW more about the >>

situation than all..pur player's U<<<<PRO'ssah'assssssssss!!

UNLESS any of U can sell us software that can PAY-OFF$$$$$$$$

please>>>shut-UP!!

otherwise>>>>>>>IT TAKE's LOT'$$$$$$$of MONEY$$$$$$$$$$

to BEAT these ODD's......I am correct!!!

otherwise<<<<<<<POST your SYSTEM>>>>>>>>>>NOW>>>!!!!

thankssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss????????????

just play $$$$$$$$

psykomo 

 shut-UP!!       are you kidding?

 

 

 

  You always make me sick when I see your rude stupid ....CRAP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Craaaaaaaaaaaaap ! You are and always have been a Jeeeeeeerk !

 psykonnnnnnnnnmo you have problems and are always rude. I have never seen you post anything but this crap. Never have you ever posted an original thought ......or made a constructive effort or worked on anything positive.  The only thing ever seen from you is this negative sludge.

  Your crazy post are your screams for attention ..... Well now I finally gave you some.

  You need to go to your happy place and mellow out and calm down .

  Man your medication is making you act up ..... I'm serious.   

  Believe me when I tell you ...this is not normal or polite behavior.   

  P.S.   I have never seen anyone BRAGG about being Stupid ..... you said you didn't even read all of this post and yet your just gonna tell everyone alllllll about it anyway ! That won't stop you will it?  No.....  Tell us all about it in Big letters .... all about it.     

 

 

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                              Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                              Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                       Win d    

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    Posted: October 24, 2007, 3:53 am - IP Logged

    Right on! LOL

    lasas3

    An onion a day keeps everyone away!!!

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      Posted: October 24, 2007, 7:39 am - IP Logged

       Windy

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      ez

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          These helpless... hopeless people... who are they ? Who are we trying to protect here? Where are these dim persons?  Where are they?  Point out these silly players that need to be shielded from a generalized game strategy conversation.

         Hell.... no body protected me from all these different methods in the beginning .....and I lost plenty getting an education. If they don't stop and think and read ..... what are we to do ? 

         We all had to pay our dues ......  

          We can't have a conversation about fixing our car engine or our brakes because some dunderhead might try it and break his car?  LOL   Please....

         

           Sorry, that just seems a pretty weak thing to get hung up on.... and shut down a topic for.          

        These are people who can't "get" the idea of finding 990 non-winning numbers, and setting those aside ... and betting on the remaining ten.

        These are people who get angry at any theory for the games that don't sync with their own (non-winning) methods.

        These are people who make it necessary to put all kinds of disclaimers on everything ... i.e. do not juggle chainsaw ... do not use toaster in bathtub ... do not put motorhome on cruise control, while you go in the back to make a sandwich.

        They should avoid the lottery (for their own sake) as well as voting and breeding (for ours).

        In neo-conned Amerika, bank robs you.
        Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms should be the name of a convenience store, not a govnoment agency.

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          There are also people who refuse to get it in their head that no matter if you are at a racetrack, a sports book, a casino, or playing the lottery there is not one bet that exists in all of the gambling world that you are not suppossed to lose. 

          The track operators, bookies, casinos, and the lotery are in business to make money (duh!) and only offer bets where they have the edge.

          Years ago the game of Faro was taken out of the casinos because it was an even money bet (except for the last hand).

          The house basically operates by offering you both sides of a bet and letting you pick your own loser. (Sports, dice, roulette, horses, etc...) 

          People think if they play the Don't on crap tables they are betting with the house because they're betting against the shooter. nice thought, but the house os booking their action, too.  

          And when it comes to lotto pick losers we do! 

          Remember, there is not a bet you can make that you are supposed to win. the only bets that offer true odds are the Pass Line and Don't Pass odds bets on dice tables- but you have to have a flat bet to take or lay odds.

          When it comes to lotto any attempt to get favorable odds is laughable.  

          As soon as you turn cash into a lotto ticket, a casino chip, a sports bet, or horse bet, consider it gone. That's the only attitude you can have.

          Casino operators and others that offer gambling get richer and richer because people can't accept having lost and get into the "I want my money back" trap.

          The person who blows $20 and only intended to blow $20 will then blow $100 trying to win back the original $20. It's called chasing.

          And the bookies just rub their palms together and say, "Come on back".  

          The title of this very thread,

          "Most don't play enough numbers to profit at Pick 3 !"

          is a lottery marketing person's wet dream!

          In any form of gambling the house books the action, the losers pay the winners at less than true odds, and the house keeps the remainder. 

          In lotto the losers paying the winners is on steroids!

          Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

          Lep

          There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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               On the other hand ....some people like to play and win even when the House takes it's Vig.

             

               There are 50/50 bets in Pick 3 right now ....several of them.

             Part of the point in this Post Subject is....or was....that you have to play many more numbers to get closer to those better odds.  Some can afford to play at that level ...and some can't ...the end. Some know that to win more often ....they must work to find a happy middle ground between money spent and money won.  This was supposed to be the subject ...at least it was.   

                   Pick 3 has approx 17 times worse odds than the average vegas Slot mackine....  this is not a great odds game and most everyone already knows that that comes to a forum like this. Why do we always have to interrupt game conversation with this. 

              I'm gonna start a new post called.... "Pick 3 is a bad game with bad odds and no one should play it "  Then.... we can blah blah away on that subject over there.  LOL     

             

             

            The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                          Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                          Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                   Win d    

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              Posted: October 25, 2007, 1:28 am - IP Logged

              You miss what I'm saying.

              12:18 a.m. CDT 10/25/07:

              There are currently 368 active users: 316 guests and 52 members

              That's typical for a board this size. As I said before, some neophyte would read this thread and figure these guys have it figured out.

              When there's a thread in the News forum about any state closing down its Pick 3 because someone figured it out then I'll believe in playing more and more and more numbers.

              Until then, it's Milo Minderbinder from Catch 22 selling things for a loss but making it up in volume.

              Green laugh

              Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

              Lep

              There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                The losers pay the winners, and the house gets a cut. The house, overall, wins. Whether we're talking lottery, taxes, or stocks, the middleman wins. Understood.

                It wouldn't be "betting" if there were no risk involved, and if we limit ourselves only to those ideas and methods that have no risk of loss, there'd be no one here but the crickets.

                If some neophyte figures that we got it all figured ... they need to do some more figuring. Otherwise, they serve the purpose of providing funds to pay the winners ... and the house's cut.

                Welcome neophytes. See Ya! Step right up.Hurray! Right this way.Disney

                You don't wanna miss it. PartyWe've got a really big show!BananaBananaBanana 

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                      Here's a simplistic example:

                         Ca Eve has not had a hit from these Short Sums ....0,2,9,,,and 3,,4    in 13 draws.

                         I say 13 draws because in the order of skips .... the Ssum 0 is out 32 draws...followed by 27,25,14,,,and finally Ssum 4 on the end which is out 13 draws.  So all of the 5 Ssums are out a minimum of 13 draws at the very least.

                      5 Ssums all out 13 draws of course means that CA eve has not had a hit form the other Half of the chart or ....the other 500 numbers in almost 2 weeks or 13 draws.

                       A good 50/50 player should be interested in this proposition.  Just as a Large filter ....or the beginning of several other add on filters.

                       The question you should ask yourself at this point is ...." Do ya feel lucky ...punk? " LOL      No ....really you should ask yourself this question...  "How long or ...What is the longest skip you think you have ever seen in your state .....that includes a 500 number Group?? 

                   

                   

                     We could just stop at this point and play 50/50 ......right now. 

                     We could play all 500 numbers STRAIGHT for

                     .25 cents  x  500 numbers .....=  125.00 bucks and    Win 225.00 bucks  

                   

                    What is the longest skip you have ever seen in your state that this has occurred with 500 numbers missing ......and ....and ..how many times has it ever happened before? 

                   

                   

                    Maybe we don't want to play all the Doubles...or the Singles tonight. Perhaps we feel doubles and want to gamble just on that 2nd filter.

                      500 numbers .....  =Straight Singles 360      Straight Doubles only 140

                   

                         140 straight doubles x .25 = cost of  35.oo dollars      Win ... $ 225. 00 

                                                                            etc... etc.....

                   

                   

                  The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                                Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                                Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                         Win d    

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                    Here's what they look like... 135  Straight doubles ...and 5 trips           cost 35.00 bucks

                     000, 002, 003, 004, 009, 011, 020, 022, 030, 040, 055, 066, 077, 090, 101, 110, 111, 112, 117, 118, 121, 144, 166, 171, 181, 199, 200, 202, 211, 220, 225, 226, 228, 229, 244, 252, 255, 262, 266, 282, 292, 299, 300, 333, 334, 336, 337, 338, 343, 355, 363, 373, 383, 388, 400, 414, 424, 433, 441, 442, 444, 445, 446, 454, 455, 464, 488, 499, 505, 522, 525, 535, 544, 545, 550, 552, 553, 554, 559, 577, 595, 599, 606, 616, 622, 626, 633, 644, 660, 661, 662, 667, 668, 676, 677, 686, 688, 699, 707, 711, 733, 757, 766, 767, 770, 775, 776, 778, 779, 787, 788, 797, 811, 822, 833, 838, 848, 866, 868, 877, 878, 883, 884, 886, 887, 888, 900, 919, 922, 929, 949, 955, 959, 969, 977, 991, 992, 994, 995, 996 

                      You have 6 days to break even this way. 

                     

                          Here are the Singles... 360 of them     cost 90.00 bucks     win 225.00

                      012, 013, 018, 019, 021, 027, 028, 031, 036, 037, 039, 045, 046, 048, 049, 054, 057, 058, 059, 063, 064, 067, 068, 072, 073, 075, 076, 081, 082, 084, 085, 086, 091, 093, 094, 095, 102, 103, 108, 109, 120, 126, 127, 129, 130, 135, 136, 138, 139, 145, 147, 148, 149, 153, 154, 156, 157, 158, 162, 163, 165, 167, 172, 174, 175, 176, 180, 183, 184, 185, 190, 192, 193, 194, 201, 207, 208, 210, 216, 217, 219, 234, 235, 237, 238, 239, 243, 246, 247, 248, 253, 256, 257, 261, 264, 265, 270, 271, 273, 274, 275, 280, 283, 284, 289, 291, 293, 298, 301, 306, 307, 309, 310, 315, 316, 318, 319, 324, 325, 327, 328, 329, 342, 345, 346, 347, 351, 352, 354, 356, 360, 361, 364, 365, 370, 372, 374, 379, 381, 382, 389, 390, 391, 392, 397, 398, 405, 406, 408, 409, 415, 417, 418, 419, 423, 426, 427, 428, 432, 435, 436, 437, 450, 451, 453, 460, 462, 463, 469, 471, 472, 473, 478, 479, 480, 481, 482, 487, 490, 491, 496, 497, 504, 507, 508, 509, 513, 514, 516, 517, 518, 523, 526, 527, 531, 532, 534, 536, 540, 541, 543, 561, 562, 563, 568, 569, 570, 571, 572, 578, 580, 581, 586, 587, 589, 590, 596, 598, 603, 604, 607, 608, 612, 613, 615, 617, 621, 624, 625, 630, 631, 634, 635, 640, 642, 643, 649, 651, 652, 653, 658, 659, 670, 671, 679, 680, 685, 689, 694, 695, 697, 698, 702, 703, 705, 706, 712, 714, 715, 716, 720, 721, 723, 724, 725, 730, 732, 734, 739, 741, 742, 743, 748, 749, 750, 751, 752, 758, 760, 761, 769, 784, 785, 789, 793, 794, 796, 798, 801, 802, 804, 805, 806, 810, 813, 814, 815, 820, 823, 824, 829, 831, 832, 839, 840, 841, 842, 847, 850, 851, 856, 857, 859, 860, 865, 869, 874, 875, 879, 892, 893, 895, 896, 897, 901, 903, 904, 905, 910, 912, 913, 914, 921, 923, 928, 930, 931, 932, 937, 938, 940, 941, 946, 947, 950, 956, 958, 964, 965, 967, 968, 973, 974, 976, 978, 982, 983, 985, 986, 987 

                     

                     Too rich for your taste ?  Then go for a Box hit ..... all 360 straights shrunk down to only 60 Single Boxes !  Cost 15 bucks..... win 37.50 

                    019, 028, 037, 046, 127, 136, 145, 235, 389, 479, 569, 578, 039, 048, 057, 129, 138, 147, 156, 237, 246, 345, 589, 679, 012, 049, 058, 067, 139, 148, 157, 238, 247, 256, 346, 689, 013, 059, 068, 149, 158, 167, 239, 248, 257, 347, 356, 789, 018, 027, 036, 045, 126, 135, 234, 289, 379, 469, 478, 568 

                     

                      But if your Cheap....or your a poor person .....  You can only play 2 days to break even on boxes

                                                                                           or

                     

                      Still to rich for you?  Then go to Box Doubles ...shrink down the 135 Straight doubles to these Box doubles and 5 trlips.  Only 50 numbers to play now.  cost 12.50      win  75,00 bucks .....or 225 if it hits as a trip.

                     

                        000, 055, 118, 226, 244, 299, 334, 488, 668, 677, 002, 011, 066, 228, 255, 336, 444, 499, 688, 778, 003, 111, 166, 229, 337, 355, 445, 599, 779, 788, 004, 022, 077, 112, 266, 338, 446, 455, 699, 888, 009, 117, 144, 199, 225, 333, 388, 559, 577, 667

                     

                     

                    The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                                  Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                                  Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                           Win d    

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                      "But if your Cheap....or your a poor person .....  You can only play 2 days to break even on boxes. "

                      You assume people who don''t want to play like you do or cheap or poor, maybe they're just not as infatuated with lotto. 

                      Not everyone thinks of lotto on terms of laying out $15 to win an occassional  whopping $37.50, or evem $90 to win a screaming $225, most all of which will just be spent on more Pick 3's. 

                      One tenet of gambling operators is that the players will always come back - if they win they'll come back with the winning, if they lose they'll come back with more of their own money, but they'll come back.  

                      Playing this way is only playing to play.

                      Any apporoach to lotto other than entertainment and hope at a dream fulfilled is folly.  

                      Some people just have to be "in action" (having money riding on the outcome of something). These people need to call GA.

                      Good luck Win D, but this whole thread sounds like a system sellers sales letter.

                      System sellers only make money not because they really have any solid information, but because people who lose a lot need something to blame it on.

                      Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                      Lep

                      There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                          Thats funny cointoss.... your reinforcing my point.  You say why should they lay out 15 to win a crummy 37.50 .  Yeah... why?   

                         

                                Thats the poor way example ....playing  low and slow and getting killed.

                          Now go back and read the payout on the large number plays. The Straights plays.  

                         

                          Anyway Cointoss...  This is not a A to Z system ready to go .... it is the beginning of a group of filters. Its supposed to be a work in progress.  Starting with Big Filters and then trying to keep cutting down the plays until we get to a "workable" level.  If...... we can ever get past the "sermons"  LOL

                           Your not trying very hard to experiment with out of the box methods here. In fact you seem to be trying to kill this discussion right form the beginning and not even willing to even consider any small part of anything. 

                            What's your goal here?  You preaching about the "evils of gambling" right in the middle of a Strategy succession. The key focus here is centered on the advantages of playing more numbers to win more often.  Where is the Balance ? At what point is at the most efficient .....per the individuals limits or strengths.   

                         

                            The whole thing is start at the top of the 1000 numbers .....and work your way down. Filter the numbers down as much as is feasible .....and still win more often .  The point is try to number the steps .... say 1 -through- 10   Then present these as options .... try to match the numbers of plays to the odds of winning.  Then to each his own.  Stop your filters at 1 ...2... or filter 3  or keep going all the way to filter 10 where your chances are really low.  Really low chances of wins...but low cash outlay of course.  

                         

                          ( I could easily take the position of " Every thing is bad "  " "Bad Odds" " Go back" ..don't play the bad odds game ...and too much money ...just as well as you want to do it.... but .... thats not the focus here)

                         

                         

                        The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                                      Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                                      Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                               Win d    

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                             P.S. 

                            Cointoss.... this is not "Gamblers Anonymous"  This is a Gambler's Forum for goodness sake !  

                           

                           

                          The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                                        Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                                        Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                                 Win d    

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                               P.S. 

                              Cointoss.... this is not "Gamblers Anonymous"  This is a Gambler's Forum for goodness sake !  

                            Most serious gamblers don't play the lottery, Win D.

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                                 I have been ....and still am a ..   

                                         Drop Dead....

                                                    Serious as a Heart Attack

                                                                            .. real live .....

                                                                                      bad to the bone.....

                                                                                                  Gambler  for many many years now. 

                                                                                                                 ....and there is plenty more serious gambler lottery players right here on this forum as well.  Believe you me.  

                                     

                                 But part of what you said is true.  THEY DON'T ....."PLAY" ... and they are "Serious"...  LOL 

                               

                                  Even though they do it in a chair now.... in front of a computer...and  in their house in the country.   

                                Party

                               

                               

                              The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                                            Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                                            Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                                     Win d