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Hope, Optimism or Stupidity?

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justxploring's avatar - villiarna
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Posted: October 24, 2007, 12:26 am - IP Logged

Tonight when I was in Publix, I slowly walked by the lottery terminal.  There was nobody else at the counter and the customer service clerk asked if she could help me.  I said "I'll come back. I was thinking about buying a couple of Fantasy 5 tickets" to which she replied "I never buy them."  I don't remember the rest.

Anyway, I bought a couple of frozen entrees (50% off on Boston Market - imagine the markup for these dinners!)  and went home.  After I ate my turkey in cranberry sauce and sweet potato pie (46 grams of sugar but really yummy) I thought "I shouldn't let the negative attitude of someone else affect me" and went to 7-11 down the block.  I bought 4 tickets - (2) Fantasy 5 and (2) MegaMoney.   Unless getting 3 numbers on 3 separate tickets (and different games!) counts, I didn't win a thing.  Congrats to the one winner of $1.3M in MegaMoney and the two Fantasy 5 winners who each will get $121K.   Bye-bye to $4 bucks.  My only consolation is that while I was leaving the store, one man came up to the counter and said "2 cartons of Marlboro Lights" and someone else was getting a 12 pack of beer.

So was my last minute "I have as good a shot at winning as anyone else. Why not?" a moment of hope and high spirited optimism, or was it an unrealistic dream of getting out of working the next 30 years that sparked a moment of temporary insanity?

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    Posted: October 24, 2007, 2:07 am - IP Logged

    Maybe she said something like, "I never buy them, I buy scrathcers".

    Nothing wrong with hope - without hope there'd be very little lotto play going on.  

    I remember coming out of a lottery place in California one day near the Nevada border and an Asian girl made the observation that when people are coming out of a casino they usually look p. o'd because they probably lost- but when they come out of the lottery place with their tickets they have hope on their face (at least til the drawing!).

    Buono Fortuna 

    Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

    Lep

    There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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      Posted: October 24, 2007, 3:33 am - IP Logged


      "I have as good a shot at winning as anyone else. Why not?"

      That counts as optimism or hope, as long as you don't think anyone actually has a good chance. Thinking you have a good chance could be unrealistic optimism or it could be stupidity.  Since you only spent $2 on each game your expectations would have to be very unrealistic for it to be stupidity. If you walked to the store, making a second trip for the tickets was exercise. If you drove, it was a waste of gas and extra wear and tear on the car. Raising the cost of your tickets is never the smart choice.
       

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        Posted: October 24, 2007, 5:16 am - IP Logged

        So was my last minute "I have as good a shot at winning as anyone else. Why not?" a moment of hope and high spirited optimism, or was it an unrealistic dream of getting out of working the next 30 years that sparked a moment of temporary insanity?

        And you did have the same chance as everyone else.  You certainly faced the same odds as the person that won the 1.3 million bucks. It doesn't matter how many tickets they may  have bought, it wouldn't  reduce the odds against them very much if any.

        Thing is, someone always does win the jackpot. And that person plays with the same odds as anyone else.  Therefore, it can happen.

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          Posted: October 26, 2007, 10:54 pm - IP Logged

          Tonight when I was in Publix, I slowly walked by the lottery terminal.  There was nobody else at the counter and the customer service clerk asked if she could help me.  I said "I'll come back. I was thinking about buying a couple of Fantasy 5 tickets" to which she replied "I never buy them."  I don't remember the rest.

          Anyway, I bought a couple of frozen entrees (50% off on Boston Market - imagine the markup for these dinners!)  and went home.  After I ate my turkey in cranberry sauce and sweet potato pie (46 grams of sugar but really yummy) I thought "I shouldn't let the negative attitude of someone else affect me" and went to 7-11 down the block.  I bought 4 tickets - (2) Fantasy 5 and (2) MegaMoney.   Unless getting 3 numbers on 3 separate tickets (and different games!) counts, I didn't win a thing.  Congrats to the one winner of $1.3M in MegaMoney and the two Fantasy 5 winners who each will get $121K.   Bye-bye to $4 bucks.  My only consolation is that while I was leaving the store, one man came up to the counter and said "2 cartons of Marlboro Lights" and someone else was getting a 12 pack of beer.

          So was my last minute "I have as good a shot at winning as anyone else. Why not?" a moment of hope and high spirited optimism, or was it an unrealistic dream of getting out of working the next 30 years that sparked a moment of temporary insanity?

          Your optimism appears to be hopeful to me.But what do I know?...I'm stupid.Sad Wavey

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            Posted: October 27, 2007, 12:31 pm - IP Logged

            Optimism is when you buy your ticket WITH the hope you'll win; 

            Stupidity is buying your ticket WITHOUT the hope you'll win.Smiley

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              Posted: October 27, 2007, 12:41 pm - IP Logged

              KY Floyd writes:  "Raising the cost of your tickets is never the smart choice."

               

              What?

              Did I say I spent $2 on the same ticket? That wouldn't make sense playing a jackpot game.  Where did you get that?  I wrote that I bought 2 tickets for Fantasy 5 and 2 tickets for MegaMoney.  I thought you always insist that buying an extra ticket cuts the odds in half!   

              I disagree that spending an extra few dollars on a trip to the grocery store is meaningless.  Maybe it is to you, but one of my neighbors asked to borrow $5 last week until he got his disability check.  I've known people who didn't have enough for gas.  Of course I wouldn't be spending $8 or more a week on the lottery if I was that broke. But maybe that answers my question about hope, doesn't it?  If I truly had hope and believed in my numbers, wouldn't I still buy that ticket even if it was my last dollar?

              Oh, regarding spending an extra dollar on a ticket goes - wasn't there an article on LP about a woman who won a lot of money because she had a feeling one day played her pick-4 number multiple times?  

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                Posted: October 27, 2007, 5:07 pm - IP Logged

                Funny thing is, does anyone ever say "Oh, that was a waste of money" to or about someone who has won a jackpot?? That is part of why we play, the opportunity of hitting it big. 

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                Money won is twice as good as money earned!

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                  Posted: October 27, 2007, 10:59 pm - IP Logged

                  Hey Juxt-

                  One moment or one ticket of extravagant grace that does not depend on numbers or any other measure of success for its meaning, just as the Grand Canyon does not depend on busloads of tourists to be magnificent.
                   

                  If we lose our dream and we die.....

                   

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                    Posted: October 27, 2007, 11:09 pm - IP Logged

                    Would one Fantasy Five win really be enough to cover your next 30 years of working?  Maybe you should put your efforts into a game with a prize that would solve all your problems as the odds are you will only win one jackpot in a life time.  I stopped playing Fantasy Five because the prize won't make enough of a difference and Mega Money won't wheel well.  BobP


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                      Posted: October 27, 2007, 11:55 pm - IP Logged

                      Tonight when I was in Publix, I slowly walked by the lottery terminal.  There was nobody else at the counter and the customer service clerk asked if she could help me.  I said "I'll come back. I was thinking about buying a couple of Fantasy 5 tickets" to which she replied "I never buy them."  I don't remember the rest.

                      Anyway, I bought a couple of frozen entrees (50% off on Boston Market - imagine the markup for these dinners!)  and went home.  After I ate my turkey in cranberry sauce and sweet potato pie (46 grams of sugar but really yummy) I thought "I shouldn't let the negative attitude of someone else affect me" and went to 7-11 down the block.  I bought 4 tickets - (2) Fantasy 5 and (2) MegaMoney.   Unless getting 3 numbers on 3 separate tickets (and different games!) counts, I didn't win a thing.  Congrats to the one winner of $1.3M in MegaMoney and the two Fantasy 5 winners who each will get $121K.   Bye-bye to $4 bucks.  My only consolation is that while I was leaving the store, one man came up to the counter and said "2 cartons of Marlboro Lights" and someone else was getting a 12 pack of beer.

                      So was my last minute "I have as good a shot at winning as anyone else. Why not?" a moment of hope and high spirited optimism, or was it an unrealistic dream of getting out of working the next 30 years that sparked a moment of temporary insanity?

                      That's a good story, thanks for sharing it.

                      In my opinion clerks should not be offering their opinions at all -- on anything.  The only thing they should be offering is to day "good luck" after you finish the order.

                      I have stopped going to a couple stores where they don't act professionally when I purchase tickets.

                      There's nothing wrong with a little banter -- which naturally happens when you get to know the people over time -- but there is a line that should not be crossed, for the reasons you mentioned.

                       

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                        Posted: October 28, 2007, 12:05 am - IP Logged

                        "working the next 30 years ..."

                        You're kidding, right? That's 2037.

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                          Posted: October 28, 2007, 12:50 am - IP Logged

                          "working the next 30 years ..."

                          You're kidding, right? That's 2037.

                          Call me crazy but that is a sweet number, 2037!  Thanks JX for sharing the experience!

                           

                          Mon, Oct 1, 2007DelawarePlay 42-7-0-3
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                          Wed, Sep 5, 2007IllinoisMidday 47-3-2-0
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                            "working the next 30 years ..."

                            You're kidding, right? That's 2037.

                            Thanks, Todd.   I agree that people should just mind their own business.  I don't see them warning all the people who buy cigarettes that they're not good for their health or that alcohol is the cause of most child abuse, domestic violence and automobile deaths. Oh, now I've got this funny picture in my head like an old SNL skit.  Imagine a cashier who comments on purchases as she scans them. "Eggs? Haven't you heard about cholestral?  You know why those Boston Market dinners taste so good?  Look at the sodium content!  White bread?  Do you want hemmoroids when you get older?  How about a little whole wheat in your diet?  Who's writing your grocery list?  SATAN??  LOL

                            Time*treat - no, I am not kidding.  I don't mind working but I would prefer to choose my line of work, not worry about money and enjoy what I do for a living.  I am already in my 50s, so 30 years might be a stretch, but I know a lot of people who are over 70 and working.  I've worked with people in their 80s who can run circles around me. 

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                              KY Floyd writes:  "Raising the cost of your tickets is never the smart choice."

                               

                              What?

                              Did I say I spent $2 on the same ticket? That wouldn't make sense playing a jackpot game.  Where did you get that?  I wrote that I bought 2 tickets for Fantasy 5 and 2 tickets for MegaMoney.  I thought you always insist that buying an extra ticket cuts the odds in half!   

                              I disagree that spending an extra few dollars on a trip to the grocery store is meaningless.  Maybe it is to you, but one of my neighbors asked to borrow $5 last week until he got his disability check.  I've known people who didn't have enough for gas.  Of course I wouldn't be spending $8 or more a week on the lottery if I was that broke. But maybe that answers my question about hope, doesn't it?  If I truly had hope and believed in my numbers, wouldn't I still buy that ticket even if it was my last dollar?

                              Oh, regarding spending an extra dollar on a ticket goes - wasn't there an article on LP about a woman who won a lot of money because she had a feeling one day played her pick-4 number multiple times?  

                              justxploring ;

                              the  greastest error  I  think  people  make  when  playing  a  lotto  /mega   aka  fantsy 5  type  game  is  people  always  think  its  their  lucky  number  that  comes  out   or  they  hope  it  will  be  there  lucky  numbers  and  then  they  go  into  the  ODDS  theory ....I  disagree ...its  manipulation  of  the  numbers ...  example  in  lets   say  the  last  2  draws  ;

                              02-13-24-.35-31.....

                              next  week  17-18-22-27-29  this  wek  it  elimeted  01-09  and  all  30-39  numbers  and  so  it  goes  try  to  think   more  like   what   the  lottery  would  draw  and  not  just  your   hand  picked  - numbers ;

                              go  back  and  write  out  each  draw  by  the  last  5-10  drawinggs and  play  what  they  DID  NOT  PICK ..AS  YOU  WILL  SEE  theeir  will  be  quite  a  few  numberrs  from 01-  39  they  missed ..

                              its  not  perfect  but  it  helps  when  money  is  tight: