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Hope, Optimism or Stupidity?

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Posted: October 28, 2007, 3:43 am - IP Logged

@ JXP, I remember that character on SNL; Dana Carvey's "Church Lady" Green laughGreen laughGreen laugh"Well, isn't that special?"

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    Clerks aren't a problem , but players that are srokers are.

    Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

    Lep

    There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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      Posted: October 28, 2007, 2:51 pm - IP Logged

      justxploring ;

      the  greastest error  I  think  people  make  when  playing  a  lotto  /mega   aka  fantsy 5  type  game  is  people  always  think  its  their  lucky  number  that  comes  out   or  they  hope  it  will  be  there  lucky  numbers  and  then  they  go  into  the  ODDS  theory ....I  disagree ...its  manipulation  of  the  numbers ...  example  in  lets   say  the  last  2  draws  ;

      02-13-24-.35-31.....

      next  week  17-18-22-27-29  this  wek  it  elimeted  01-09  and  all  30-39  numbers  and  so  it  goes  try  to  think   more  like   what   the  lottery  would  draw  and  not  just  your   hand  picked  - numbers ;

      go  back  and  write  out  each  draw  by  the  last  5-10  drawinggs and  play  what  they  DID  NOT  PICK ..AS  YOU  WILL  SEE  theeir  will  be  quite  a  few  numberrs  from 01-  39  they  missed ..

      its  not  perfect  but  it  helps  when  money  is  tight:

      Great advice computerhead.. Todd's inspection tool for pick 5 will do that for you ...

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        Number  Times  
          Drawn 
         % of  
          Drawings
         
         % of  
          Draws 
         Last  
          Drawn
         
         Hit Frequency  (Expected Hits: 2) 
        356    40.0%  8.0%  Oct 26, 2007
         
        105    33.3%  6.7%  Oct 27, 2007
         
        154    26.7%  5.3%  Oct 24, 2007
         
        204    26.7%  5.3%  Oct 24, 2007
         
        83    20.0%  4.0%  Oct 19, 2007
         
        303    20.0%  4.0%  Oct 23, 2007
         
        343    20.0%  4.0%  Oct 26, 2007
         
        43    20.0%  4.0%  Oct 25, 2007
         
        113    20.0%  4.0%  Oct 27, 2007
         
        53    20.0%  4.0%  Oct 27, 2007
         
        133    20.0%  4.0%  Oct 24, 2007
         
        323    20.0%  4.0%  Oct 23, 2007
         
        183    20.0%  4.0%  Oct 26, 2007
         
        282    13.3%  2.7%  Oct 24, 2007
         
        292    13.3%  2.7%  Oct 15, 2007
         
        242    13.3%  2.7%  Oct 21, 2007
         
        362    13.3%  2.7%  Oct 25, 2007
         
        92    13.3%  2.7%  Oct 23, 2007
         
        162    13.3%  2.7%  Oct 20, 2007
         
        262    13.3%  2.7%  Oct 27, 2007
         
        22    13.3%  2.7%  Oct 23, 2007
         
        312    13.3%  2.7%  Oct 18, 2007
         
        252    13.3%  2.7%  Oct 26, 2007
         
        11    6.7%  1.3%  Oct 14, 2007
         
        171    6.7%  1.3%  Oct 24, 2007
         
        31    6.7%  1.3%  Oct 21, 2007
         
        141    6.7%  1.3%  Oct 16, 2007
         
        331    6.7%  1.3%  Oct 20, 2007
         
        221    6.7%  1.3%  Oct 27, 2007
         
        61    6.7%  1.3%  Oct 22, 2007
         
        271    6.7%  1.3%  Oct 20, 2007
         
        121    6.7%  1.3%  Oct 19, 2007
         
        210    0.0%  0.0%  -
        230    0.0%  0.0%  -
        190    0.0%  0.0%  -
        70    0.0%  0.0%  -

        Notes: Last 15 draws for Florida's Fantacy Five

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          Posted: October 28, 2007, 10:28 pm - IP Logged

          Great advice computerhead.. Todd's inspection tool for pick 5 will do that for you ...

          where  is  this  pick  5  thing  I  need  to  see  just  what  numbers  were  drawn  in  the  last  10  pulls;

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            Posted: October 28, 2007, 11:33 pm - IP Logged
            Number  Times  
              Drawn 
             % of  
              Drawings
             
             % of  
              Draws 
             Last  
              Drawn
             
             Hit Frequency  (Expected Hits: 2) 
            356    40.0%  8.0%  Oct 26, 2007
             
            105    33.3%  6.7%  Oct 27, 2007
             
            154    26.7%  5.3%  Oct 24, 2007
             
            204    26.7%  5.3%  Oct 24, 2007
             
            83    20.0%  4.0%  Oct 19, 2007
             
            303    20.0%  4.0%  Oct 23, 2007
             
            343    20.0%  4.0%  Oct 26, 2007
             
            43    20.0%  4.0%  Oct 25, 2007
             
            113    20.0%  4.0%  Oct 27, 2007
             
            53    20.0%  4.0%  Oct 27, 2007
             
            133    20.0%  4.0%  Oct 24, 2007
             
            323    20.0%  4.0%  Oct 23, 2007
             
            183    20.0%  4.0%  Oct 26, 2007
             
            282    13.3%  2.7%  Oct 24, 2007
             
            292    13.3%  2.7%  Oct 15, 2007
             
            242    13.3%  2.7%  Oct 21, 2007
             
            362    13.3%  2.7%  Oct 25, 2007
             
            92    13.3%  2.7%  Oct 23, 2007
             
            162    13.3%  2.7%  Oct 20, 2007
             
            262    13.3%  2.7%  Oct 27, 2007
             
            22    13.3%  2.7%  Oct 23, 2007
             
            312    13.3%  2.7%  Oct 18, 2007
             
            252    13.3%  2.7%  Oct 26, 2007
             
            11    6.7%  1.3%  Oct 14, 2007
             
            171    6.7%  1.3%  Oct 24, 2007
             
            31    6.7%  1.3%  Oct 21, 2007
             
            141    6.7%  1.3%  Oct 16, 2007
             
            331    6.7%  1.3%  Oct 20, 2007
             
            221    6.7%  1.3%  Oct 27, 2007
             
            61    6.7%  1.3%  Oct 22, 2007
             
            271    6.7%  1.3%  Oct 20, 2007
             
            121    6.7%  1.3%  Oct 19, 2007
             
            210    0.0%  0.0%  -
            230    0.0%  0.0%  -
            190    0.0%  0.0%  -
            70    0.0%  0.0%  -

            Notes: Last 15 draws for Florida's Fantacy Five

            05-07-08-19-27  The seven and 19 popped in.

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              That's a good story, thanks for sharing it.

              In my opinion clerks should not be offering their opinions at all -- on anything.  The only thing they should be offering is to day "good luck" after you finish the order.

              I have stopped going to a couple stores where they don't act professionally when I purchase tickets.

              There's nothing wrong with a little banter -- which naturally happens when you get to know the people over time -- but there is a line that should not be crossed, for the reasons you mentioned.

              Todd you aren't flying into Tn and working part time for the lottery??? I might have to warn tntea, lol.

              I'm curious to know if tntea found out why the lottery people were looking for her?

              I love doubles and remember, it's just a game!!!!!!

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                I have to "CHIME IN" ON THIS ONE......

                 

                I haven't had any more luck with the Lottery than I have had with the Social Security that is withdrawn from my pay check every week.....that I will probably never see again.......

                 Hope, Optimism or Plain Stupidity"??????

                I'd rather have the fun of trying to "beat the system"......

                 

                Best of LUCK to us all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                  05-07-08-19-27  The seven and 19 popped in.

                  tntea   are  you  sayng  that   only  21-23-19-07  are  the  only  numbers  that  have  not  fallen  in  the  last  10 draws  ???????

                  are  these  all   the  numbers  for  the  game  ??  in  NY  the  TAKE-5-   GOES  FROM  01 THRU  39:

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                    KY Floyd writes:  "Raising the cost of your tickets is never the smart choice."

                     

                    What?

                    Did I say I spent $2 on the same ticket? That wouldn't make sense playing a jackpot game.  Where did you get that?  I wrote that I bought 2 tickets for Fantasy 5 and 2 tickets for MegaMoney.  I thought you always insist that buying an extra ticket cuts the odds in half!   

                    I disagree that spending an extra few dollars on a trip to the grocery store is meaningless.  Maybe it is to you, but one of my neighbors asked to borrow $5 last week until he got his disability check.  I've known people who didn't have enough for gas.  Of course I wouldn't be spending $8 or more a week on the lottery if I was that broke. But maybe that answers my question about hope, doesn't it?  If I truly had hope and believed in my numbers, wouldn't I still buy that ticket even if it was my last dollar?

                    Oh, regarding spending an extra dollar on a ticket goes - wasn't there an article on LP about a woman who won a lot of money because she had a feeling one day played her pick-4 number multiple times?  

                    Look at what I said again:

                    "If you walked to the store, making a second trip for the tickets was exercise. If you drove, it was a waste of gas and extra wear and tear on the car. Raising the cost of your tickets is never the smart choice."

                    After doing some shopping you went out again, specifically to buy the tickets that you had thought about buying when you were already at the store the first time. I don't know where you got the bit about spending a few dollars being meaningless, but making two trips costs more than making one trip. Making a special trip to buy your tickets makes them more expensive than if you bought them when you were already at the store.

                    I have never said that buying an "extra" ticket cuts the odds in half.  What I have said, and explained several times, is that buying a second ticket cuts the odds in half. Two is twice as much as one. If you've already bought two and want to double your chances again you'll have to buy twice as many tickets, which means another two tickets.

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                      05-07-08-19-27  The seven and 19 popped in.

                      tea  in  my  system  it   makes  no  difference  how  many  times  a  number  was  drawn ;

                      example  use  this  and  do  by  hand:

                      05-22-27-36-37  ;    0-09=(05).......10-19=..000--..   20-29=(22 ;27)....30-39=(36+37)....

                      do  this  until  you  get  07  games 7x5=35 numbers  drawn  I  use  08  since  NY  goes  to  39 ;

                      then  only  use  numbers  which  have  not  fallen  and  the  last  number  which  has  not  fallen  since  the  start  of  your  count which  feel  only  once;

                      it  may  or  may  not  work  for  you ......the  list  you  provided  wont  help  with  this  system  since  you  want  to  see  what  have  not  fallen   and  try  to  predict  the  pattern  used  by   tenn.

                      in  this  last  draw  they   elimenated  all  numbers  from  10 thru  19 ..so  as  a  betting  man  I  would  play  any  missing  number  from  10 thruu  19  in  my   list and  if  all  have  been  used  I  then  would  pick  the  last  number  or  depending  on  how  you  see  it  on  the  list  the  seventh  number  down ;

                      after  I  draw  my  list  up  it  may  look  like  this  ;

                      0-9=01-06-09  ....10-19= 11-13-19 ;  20-29= 21-26:  30-39 = 31-34-38

                      then  I  would  calculate  a  formula to  play  ; using  only  these-numbers ;Lep

                      01-11-13-21-34@@@@@@@@@@

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                        KY Floyd - I won't argue with you.  It's true for some people but for me, taking an extra trip to the store means walking down the street and around the corner. Since it was already dark and we have no sidewalks, I drove to 7-11.  Even Publix is so close I can leave during a commerical break and be back before the show starts.  I used to walk to the store with a flashlight but people tell me not to take chances at night since we live in such a violent world. 

                        TnTea - you know those numbers that came up tonight?  All exaggerating aside, I actually filled out a Fant 5 card and realized I marked the 5 instead of the 2.  So I had 5-7-10-19-28.  I tore it up and changed it to 2-7-10-19-28 so instead of winning $7.50 I got a free ticket.  (at least I got something!)   Pretty close to the winning number, but close doesn't count! 

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                          The grocery Clerk from hell--

                          OMGThat is so funny

                          Was that really an old SNL skit?  I could so see Gildna Radner portraying the clerk--if it wasn't, it should have been.

                          BTW--the clerks are usually instructed to not comment on their clients' purchases--even when you see a mother using a state card (replaces foodstamps) for her groceries and formula and then buying a 12 pack w/cash.

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                            KY Floyd - I won't argue with you.  It's true for some people but for me, taking an extra trip to the store means walking down the street and around the corner. Since it was already dark and we have no sidewalks, I drove to 7-11.  Even Publix is so close I can leave during a commerical break and be back before the show starts.  I used to walk to the store with a flashlight but people tell me not to take chances at night since we live in such a violent world. 

                            TnTea - you know those numbers that came up tonight?  All exaggerating aside, I actually filled out a Fant 5 card and realized I marked the 5 instead of the 2.  So I had 5-7-10-19-28.  I tore it up and changed it to 2-7-10-19-28 so instead of winning $7.50 I got a free ticket.  (at least I got something!)   Pretty close to the winning number, but close doesn't count! 

                            Hey Justxploring,

                            Don't let the clerk get you down; he/she was most likely feeling some event that happen before you arrived, everybody has their own issues!!!Thud When  I get a feeling about buying a lotto ticket,Big Grin Angel I go buy them, whether I make a special trip or buy them on the way home. Who knows--everyone has a chance. I was never a big lotto player until my friend at work won! Now I make sure I play here in Texas every week, within reason of course!

                            A few years ago, billionaire Warren Buffett advised  "Investors should remember that excitement and expenses are their enemies. And if they insist on trying to time their participation in equities, they should try to be fearful when others are greedy and greedy only when others are fearful."

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                              KY Floyd - I won't argue with you.  It's true for some people but for me, taking an extra trip to the store means walking down the street and around the corner. Since it was already dark and we have no sidewalks, I drove to 7-11.  Even Publix is so close I can leave during a commerical break and be back before the show starts.  I used to walk to the store with a flashlight but people tell me not to take chances at night since we live in such a violent world. 

                              TnTea - you know those numbers that came up tonight?  All exaggerating aside, I actually filled out a Fant 5 card and realized I marked the 5 instead of the 2.  So I had 5-7-10-19-28.  I tore it up and changed it to 2-7-10-19-28 so instead of winning $7.50 I got a free ticket.  (at least I got something!)   Pretty close to the winning number, but close doesn't count! 

                              You are going to get it.. I feel it...

                               

                               

                               Number  Times  
                                Drawn 
                               % of  
                                Drawings
                               
                               % of  
                                Draws 
                               Last  
                                Drawn
                               
                               Hit Frequency  (Expected Hits: 2) 
                              215    33.3%  6.7%  Nov 14, 2007
                               
                              275    33.3%  6.7%  Nov 19, 2007
                               
                              285    33.3%  6.7%  Nov 21, 2007
                               
                              223    20.0%  4.0%  Nov 15, 2007
                               
                              233    20.0%  4.0%  Nov 21, 2007
                               
                              33    20.0%  4.0%  Nov 20, 2007
                               
                              53    20.0%  4.0%  Nov 21, 2007
                               
                              103    20.0%  4.0%  Nov 20, 2007
                               
                              63    20.0%  4.0%  Nov 14, 2007
                               
                              253    20.0%  4.0%  Nov 15, 2007
                               
                              193    20.0%  4.0%  Nov 20, 2007
                               
                              313    20.0%  4.0%  Nov 19, 2007
                               
                              123    20.0%  4.0%  Nov 16, 2007
                               
                              362    13.3%  2.7%  Nov 17, 2007
                               
                              322    13.3%  2.7%  Nov 18, 2007
                               
                              302    13.3%  2.7%  Nov 21, 2007
                               
                              242    13.3%  2.7%  Nov 13, 2007
                               
                              202    13.3%  2.7%  Nov 20, 2007
                               
                              162    13.3%  2.7%  Nov 16, 2007
                               
                              342    13.3%  2.7%  Nov 18, 2007
                               
                              172    13.3%  2.7%  Nov 17, 2007
                               
                              182    13.3%  2.7%  Nov 18, 2007
                               
                              91    6.7%  1.3%  Nov 12, 2007
                               
                              41    6.7%  1.3%  Nov 7, 2007
                               
                              71    6.7%  1.3%  Nov 19, 2007
                               
                              151    6.7%  1.3%  Nov 11, 2007
                               
                              11    6.7%  1.3%  Nov 21, 2007
                               
                              141    6.7%  1.3%  Nov 19, 2007
                               
                              81    6.7%  1.3%  Nov 17, 2007
                               
                              261    6.7%  1.3%  Nov 18, 2007
                               
                              351    6.7%  1.3%  Nov 12, 2007
                               
                              131    6.7%  1.3%  Nov 8, 2007
                               
                              111    6.7%  1.3%  Nov 12, 2007
                               
                              291    6.7%  1.3%  Nov 17, 2007
                               
                              20    0.0%  0.0%  -
                              330    0.0%  0.0%  -

                               

                               

                              Last 15 draws.. Now important .. look to see what hasn't fallen in last five days.. and the ones that did that were more than 5 days out before it fell..

                              Play the 2, 33  and then the ones that made a come back after MIA for 5 days.. with those that have been out for 5 days

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