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RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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Posted: December 18, 2007, 6:33 pm - IP Logged

"So RJoh you are saying that you can create a program of sorts that will be able to produce what I need if I give you these 6 numbers that yield 1-3 number every time."

No, I'm saying others have tried that before and it has never produce any winners.  But you don't need a program if as you said the drawings of one game has 3-5 of the winning numbers of the next drawings of the other game every time.  All you has to do is just play those six numbers in the other game every time.  As far as I know, no one has ever written a program that can do as well.

I don't know about JADELottery, but I only write program for myself as a hobby and for entertainment, programming someone else ideas is too much like work and I'm retired.

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    "time*sweat"??? Blue Thinking Chair

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      Posted: December 19, 2007, 1:08 am - IP Logged

      Doing the same thing with MegaMillions where A=1-11, B=12-22, C=23-33, D=34-44 and E=45-56


      12/14/07  04 07 12 17 30    +44    A A B B C    D   
      12/11/07  06 25 27 30 45    +46    A C C C E    E   
      12/07/07  12 18 26 28 51    +35    B B C C E    D   
      12/04/07  16 27 30 45 53    +43    B C C E E    D   
      11/30/07  05 06 12 26 51    +07    A A B C E    A     
      11/27/07  09 10 26 29 39    +10    A A C C D    A   
      11/23/07  18 21 23 42 56    +11    B B C D E    A   
      11/20/07  14 20 23 42 43    +06    B B C D D    A   
      11/16/07  12 13 30 31 39    +29    B B C C D    C   
      11/13/07  15 26 36 39 40    +45    B C D D D    E   
      11/09/07  11 33 41 42 46    +21    A C D D E    B   
      11/06/07  03 14 43 46 47    +02    A B D E E    A   
      11/02/07  01 03 34 49 52    +19    A A D E E    B     
      10/30/07  02 08 44 46 51    +22    A A D E E    B     
      10/26/07  12 20 24 38 51    +03    B B C D E    A   
      10/23/07  02 07 45 52 53    +18    A A E E E    B   
      10/19/07  05 15 18 23 46    +14    A B B C E    B     
      10/16/07  01 02 05 41 44    +25    A A A D D    C     
      10/12/07  21 26 34 44 54    +23    B C D D E    C   
      10/09/07  01 10 17 32 51    +44    A A B C E    D   
      10/05/07  10 19 37 40 48    +01    A B D D E    A   
      10/02/07  28 37 40 43 44    +20    C D D D D    B   

      You can find patterns anywhere.  Do they mean anything?

      Tonight's MM winning numbers  12/18/07   03 23 46 48 49  +02   A C E E E   A

      Using template A A D E E to pick combinations could have matched 3 as I did on the prediction board tonight with 10 lines.  Picking more lines the same way would not have gotten better results.  There are wheels for wheeling several groups of numbers which would work the same way.

       * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
         
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        Posted: December 19, 2007, 4:41 am - IP Logged

        Thanks RJoh ok I understand.

        So let me give an example here,

        1st drawing gives the numbers

        1 2 3 4 5 6

        3 and 6 show

        But since I dont know which two were going to show, naturally I would wheel all 6 numbers.

         But now I have a second set of 6 numbers that will also produce 1 to 3 winning numbers, lets say those are 11 12 13 14 15 16

        13 shows 

        even still more numbers I have one more set of 6 which will also yield 1-3 numbers.

        they are 40 41 42 43 44 45 

        so 40 41 43 show

        so my wheel now looks like this;

        "1 2 3 4 5 6 11 12 13 14 15 16 40 41 42 43 44 45"

        The winning numbers

        3 6 13 40 41 43

        1 2 3 4 5 6 11 12 13 14 15 16 40 41 42 43 44 45

        Now you would think that i would win everytime it being that simple right ?

        Of course!

        So which wheeling system would you use?

        It's a NanoLike World!

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          Posted: December 19, 2007, 4:52 am - IP Logged

          @ nano,

          Read what we say more slowly. 

          I didn't say it was BS. I referred to KY Floyd's skepticism. 

          When I say "first saw this post" I mean before I replied the very first time.

          • I can probably code it ~ because it looks similiar to some old work.
          • RJOh has probably already coded it ~ because he's tested alot of theories and is pretty good at testing a new one really fast.
          • JADElottery can explain it algebraically." ~ because he can explain it with the proper equations, and even show how often such a thing can be expected, on average, to happen. Mad math skill, like that.

          There is no mention (or need) of me dismantling anything. 

          Now as far as to the "how", I did state my reasoning for this. It is mostly due to your sample sizes of 1 & 2 number repeats. These are fairly common. But, if you want a more thorough explanation, that's JADELottery's area.

          Thanks time*treat Ok I re-read. Thanks. Wink

           

          Sorry

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            Posted: December 19, 2007, 6:51 am - IP Logged

            "So which wheeling system would you use?"

            It's your system, make your own rules from what you've observed in the past.  I don't use wheels, they usually have more lines then I want to play.  I prefer instead to set parameters and randomly pick some lines accordingly.

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              Posted: December 21, 2007, 1:32 pm - IP Logged

              Tonight's MM winning numbers  12/18/07   03 23 46 48 49  +02   A C E E E   A

              Using template A A D E E to pick combinations could have matched 3 as I did on the prediction board tonight with 10 lines.  Picking more lines the same way would not have gotten better results.  There are wheels for wheeling several groups of numbers which would work the same way.

              I may use a different version of the template idea to pick 10 lines for tonight's MM drawing.  I never thought it had any merit, but now I'm thinking it may deserve a little more study.

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                Posted: December 21, 2007, 2:21 pm - IP Logged

                I think pumpi76 was campaigning for this type of thing to be used as an alternate prediction board.

                It's not a bad filter, but not an entire system.

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                  Posted: December 21, 2007, 5:40 pm - IP Logged

                  I think pumpi76 was campaigning for this type of thing to be used as an alternate prediction board.

                  It's not a bad filter, but not an entire system.

                  That's only because he thinks predicting the actual numbers is too difficult.  He probably thinks if only the letters A,B,C,D and E were used, the odds of getting them right would be the same as matching all three numbers in a pick3 game.

                  Since filtering combinations using those five letters could goes from A A A A A +A  to  E E E E E +D,  there would be almost 1 million possible filters combinations for MegaMillons.  That's easier to pick than 1:175M number combinations  but still hard.  Even getting the filtering combination correct leaves over 200K number combinations to chose from.

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                    Posted: December 21, 2007, 10:51 pm - IP Logged

                    For tonight MM drawing I played:

                     B  C  D  D  D + A
                     A  B  B  E  E + D
                     A  C  D  D  E + A
                     A  C  C  E  E + A
                     A  C  D  D  E + A
                     A  B  D  E  E + A
                     A  C  C  E  E + A
                     A  B  B  D  E + D
                     B  C  C  D  E + A
                     A  B  D  E  E + D
                     B  B  C  E  E + D
                     A  B  D  E  E + E
                     A  C  C  E  E + D
                     A  B  C  D  D + D
                     A  B  D  D  D + D
                     B  C  C  D  E + A
                     B  B  C  E  E + D
                     B  B  C  D  D + A
                     A  B  C  D  E + D
                     A  B  D  E  E + A

                     * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                       
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                      For tonight MM drawing I played:

                       B  C  D  D  D + A
                       A  B  B  E  E + D
                       A  C  D  D  E + A
                       A  C  C  E  E + A
                       A  C  D  D  E + A
                       A  B  D  E  E + A
                       A  C  C  E  E + A
                       A  B  B  D  E + D
                       B  C  C  D  E + A
                       A  B  D  E  E + D
                       B  B  C  E  E + D
                       A  B  D  E  E + E
                       A  C  C  E  E + D
                       A  B  C  D  D + D
                       A  B  D  D  D + D
                       B  C  C  D  E + A
                       B  B  C  E  E + D
                       B  B  C  D  D + A
                       A  B  C  D  E + D
                       A  B  D  E  E + A

                      good luck

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                        Posted: December 21, 2007, 11:16 pm - IP Logged

                        Tonight's winning numbers 12/21/07   14 19 20 43 53 +07    B  B  B  D  E  + A

                        I matched 1+1 for $3, the decoded numbers were:

                          22 31 38 40 43 +03
                          10 16 18 46 55 +44
                          04 32 36 44 56 +01
                          03 25 28 51 52 +08
                          06 27 34 39 54 +11
                          01 13 42 47 48 +06
                          02 23 26 49 53 +09
                          07 14 19 37 50 +41
                          15 24 30 35 45 +04
                          09 17 43 52 55 +36
                          14 15 29 53 56 +38
                          08 22 41 46 51 +45
                          07 31 33 45 47 +40
                          05 16 27 40 41 +34
                          09 21 34 37 42 +39
                          21 29 33 39 48 +05
                          12 17 32 50 54 +42
                          13 19 25 38 44 +10
                          06 20 30 36 49 +37
                          11 20 44 50 52 +07

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                          Posted: December 22, 2007, 3:37 pm - IP Logged

                          so my wheel now looks like this;

                          "1 2 3 4 5 6 11 12 13 14 15 16 40 41 42 43 44 45"

                          (coloration, mine)

                          Already stating that, at most, 3 members of a block will repeat together, it is conflicting logic to put more than three of the same block members in a wheel together. Needs a consistent strategy.

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                            so my wheel now looks like this;

                            "1 2 3 4 5 6 11 12 13 14 15 16 40 41 42 43 44 45"

                            (coloration, mine)

                            Already stating that, at most, 3 members of a block will repeat together, it is conflicting logic to put more than three of the same block members in a wheel together. Needs a consistent strategy.

                            You can use 1 to 3 numbers from each block and reduce the number of combinations from 18,564 to 14,175.

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                              Posted: December 22, 2007, 7:13 pm - IP Logged

                              I can't find among all that text, a reference to WHICH two lotteries are being talked about. I am guessing one is the Mega Millions, and the other must be one similar to it, maybe Powerball? If I open in Notepad, the Powerball drawings, next to the Mega drawings, and move one Notepad window one line up, the numbers will seem to match up? Either play the MM numbers on the next PB or vice-versa? Or numbers that are in those groups?

                              My second question is.. why do you think the two Lotteries are doing this, having the drawing result be similar, are you saying they are fixed so that some insiders will bet the first results on the following drawing of the other game? The machines for MM and PB are very different but are ball drawings, not RNG which would be a lot easier to "fix".

                              I am hoping it's PB predicting MM.