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If anyone ever does "break the code" it will be

By accident at a university [ 7 ]  [19.44%]
With paper and pencil [ 13 ]  [36.11%]
An Asian child with an abacus [ 1 ]  [2.78%]
Via an archaeological find from Atlantis! [ 1 ]  [2.78%]
When the aliens land [ 4 ]  [11.11%]
Something found at Area 51 [ 1 ]  [2.78%]
A caller on Coast to Coast A.M. [ 2 ]  [5.56%]
A terminal that's "stuck" on winners [ 1 ]  [2.78%]
Someone who was handicapping the ponies [ 1 ]  [2.78%]
Dec 21 2012 [ 5 ]  [13.89%]
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Posted: December 22, 2007, 11:04 am - IP Logged

i wander if the aliens are going to land...they do so much apparitions but don't land...

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    Posted: December 22, 2007, 11:07 am - IP Logged

    and of course someone with a supercomputer one day will....I believe someone is going to write a kick as program that will win several lottos except Megamillions and Powerball one day...

    the only problem is that lots of lottos play twice a week and not 4 times a week....

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      and of course someone with a supercomputer one day will....I believe someone is going to write a kick as program that will win several lottos except Megamillions and Powerball one day...

      the only problem is that lots of lottos play twice a week and not 4 times a week....

      For the umpteenth time you don't need a super computer to work out lottery programs

       The math processor on every computer sold today can handle the task. Albeit the faster your processor is the faster it will generate the numbers. And when that is all done you'll need a few hundred friends to help you fill out all the tickets. If your thinking a computer with some advanced programing will create the winning combination with one pick then your dreaming.  

      There are software programs that can handle that function but it will require you to enter the right combinations of numbers. Since every lottery game has odds the odds of any program generating the winning number is about the same as the odds on the lottery game your trying to win.

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        Posted: December 22, 2007, 12:25 pm - IP Logged

        Chazz...Chazz...Chazz..

        Have you not been reading the post on here?

        We have 3 or 4 post a year telling us " they have broken the code"

        ez

        Oh yes, one  had broken the code.  She mentioned it several times. I only wonder why she hangs around the computer... oh well each their own.

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          Posted: December 22, 2007, 2:23 pm - IP Logged

          " Here's a queston....

           

                If you had deep enough pockets.... and were armed with the fact that NO DOUBLES would hit the next day...... and be right 90% of the time ....do you think you could make a living at the PICK -3 game ?"

          When I worked in the casinos one of our shift managers said any game can be beat by someone with deep enough pockets, but anyone with pockets that deep isn't going to gamble that heavy - and even if they were crazy enough to gamble that heavy, the games (casino table games) are set up with a house limit to make sure that they can't bet enough to 'guarantee' an eventual win.

          In other words, if someone lost $1 and did an extreme Martingale progression (double up and catch up) and lost ten bets in a row:

          1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512

          their next bet should be 1024, but the limit for the game they happen to be on is 1000. So even if they win the $1,000 bet, they're still stuck $23.

          (This is exactly what the house limit is for, the limit itself just varies from casino to casino) 

          - the rest of the progression is 1024 2048 4196 8192 16,384....as you see, it doesn't take that long tp hit the $10,000 mark.

          And nobody is going to put up that kind of money for a win of 1 unit (whatever denomination cip they're betting) even if they could. 

          In WinD's example above of winning 90% od the time, what if the 10% losses happend on several consecutive days?

          How much are you putting up, and how many copnsecutive losses can you sustain?

          After enough conseuctive losses is one win going to get you even?

          Two wins?

          Lots of things to think about.  

          Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

          Lep

          There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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            Posted: December 22, 2007, 3:11 pm - IP Logged

            i also believe Area51 has the baddest, meanest biggest supercomputer ever invented and no one knows it...

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              For the umpteenth time you don't need a super computer to work out lottery programs

               The math processor on every computer sold today can handle the task. Albeit the faster your processor is the faster it will generate the numbers. And when that is all done you'll need a few hundred friends to help you fill out all the tickets. If your thinking a computer with some advanced programing will create the winning combination with one pick then your dreaming.  

              There are software programs that can handle that function but it will require you to enter the right combinations of numbers. Since every lottery game has odds the odds of any program generating the winning number is about the same as the odds on the lottery game your trying to win.

              And for the twentieth time, if i believe so let me believe so, I am entitled to believe my own opinions...

              I am imagining a supercomputer a little different than what you imagine a supercomputer...Even though an expert programmer can write a kick ass program for the lottery and win the lottery over and over, the numbers will not be optimized to the highest extent...They maybe optimized but not to the highest extend, something you could do with a supercomputer...The programmer and his kick ass program will have crude/coarse numbers, yes he might have stricken gold but the numbers will be crude...A thinking supercomputer of the future will be able to integrate all the patterns, all the components, all the mini maximized options and INTEGRATE IT INTO ONE, plus build a wheel from the ground up if properly thought or if it has an inherent knowledge of how to build them....Again a thinking supercomputer of the future will be able to INTEGRATE ALL THE SYSTEMS and circumnavigate all the 150 combinations that Powerball has and sip through every crack, like a liquid, something the expert programmer can't do or your home computer can't do while thinking and pondering (even though is not 150 million combinations anymore but 10,010 pick4 combinations plus 0-9...i am thinking a supercomputer that can think for itself or uses artificial intelligence....That's the supercomputer i am talking about...This supercomputer will be able to give you REFINED NUMBERS while the numbers the programmer and its kick ass program and home computer will be able to give you crude numbers and more....

              Where the expert programmer will give you 300 crude numbers that will play in the lottery; the supercomputer will give you 10, why because the supercomputer will have sift through much of the debri and rocks...And where as the programmer will hit 3/7 times the supercomputer will hit 15 out of 20 times.....I see hundreds of patterns but i know that analyzing all those patterns and INTEGRATING THEM into one combined powerful system against the lottery will take days of analyzing, while if you teach a supercomputer to do it it will do it in seconds maybe through Mega powerful math and combinatorics algorithms....And thank God I mention the word algorithm because ALGORITHMS ARE THE KEYS.....Programmers don't even know about wheels....

              I found a GIGANTIC pattern in the Sums and in the Sums Difference of PIck6 and it can be applicable to any Pick6...And if i see that imagine teaching them the trick to the supercomputer and letting it think on its own....

              So what i am saying basically is that even though a programmer with a hot program can crack the lottery with a home computer they will be CRUDE numbers, they will not be as refined as with a futuristic thinking supercomputer...

               

               

              "More important than winning the state's lotteries is the movie "Red Planet"....."

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                pumpi76 There's a big difference between science fact and science fiction. You are entitled to your opinions but sometimes they are way out real way out. Supercomputers already exist and i doubt they will be used to run lottery numbers. More realistically they won't be cheap to buy.

                There are probably hundreds of people who never even heard of lottery post who use powerful computers to try and win the lottery, the games aren't designed to be cracked by any programing.

                Big John says. You don't hit the number. The number hits you!!!!

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                  there is no code..................



                  Yup I agree. In my experience hitting the numbers has been based on finding patterns. There may be and probably are other methods of doing it but the way I look at the game is it's treated similar to counting cards at blackjack, it is possible for the player to get an advantage over the House if they know what to look for.


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                    there is no code..................



                    Yup I agree. In my experience hitting the numbers has been based on finding patterns. There may be and probably are other methods of doing it but the way I look at the game is it's treated similar to counting cards at blackjack, it is possible for the player to get an advantage over the House if they know what to look for.

                    Your last sentence says you do believe in a code? I don't get it.


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                      there is no code..................



                      Yup I agree. In my experience hitting the numbers has been based on finding patterns. There may be and probably are other methods of doing it but the way I look at the game is it's treated similar to counting cards at blackjack, it is possible for the player to get an advantage over the House if they know what to look for.

                      yES THERE IS ACODE.

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                        Your last sentence says you do believe in a code? I don't get it.



                        Nope not at all. Randomness produces patterns and if the person knows what to look for in them it is possible to have an advantage over the House, even if it's only a slight one.

                        And that's been the problem for me at least, I can easily come up with systems that 'll hit based on patterns and even leave me a little ahead over the long-term it's just doing it in a way that hits more often and without having to play so many darn numbers. That's one reason I come to Lottery Post for, I'm hoping somebody has just the trick I'll need to make it happen. :)

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                          Maybe not a code to break, but a breakthrough in physics/science.  If things go as they are,  it will happen eventually, we may not see it but the possibility exists. There are people working on it, just like Copernicus, Columbus, Einstein, Newton, Maxwell, Gauss, Pasteur, Curie, Hawking, Van de Graff, Edison, Salk, DaVinci, Archimedes, etc. broke through, it'll happen again.

                          It'll null and void all we knew before.

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                            Maybe not a code to break, but a breakthrough in physics/science.  If things go as they are,  it will happen eventually, we may not see it but the possibility exists. There are people working on it, just like Copernicus, Columbus, Einstein, Newton, Maxwell, Gauss, Pasteur, Curie, Hawking, Van de Graff, Edison, Salk, DaVinci, Archimedes, etc. broke through, it'll happen again.

                            It'll null and void all we knew before.

                            The only way to find a breackthrough is finding a way to reduce the amount of numbers...I am not talking about applying filter and thus reducing the amount of numbers, i am talking about example if you have 30 numbers you want to wheel, finding a way to reduce from 30 to 20 or 15 numbers and then wheeling them..Sort of like Sifting....

                            Even though i mentioned that there is a gigantic pattern on the Sums of Pick6 (not Powerball or MegaMillions) and even though that pattern is gigantic and noticeable it comes to a dead end...The reason is that even though you can narrow down for pick6 (and only for Pick6) the Sums to 5, each sum has like 10,000 combinations and after you apply further filtering it leaves you with 5,000 combinations..So that means that the jackpot is in 25,000 combinations and you cannot reduce it more....However the other patterns and system and ways of looking at the lottery, there maybe a way to reduce them further but that area is untested and unexplored...Just by saying that we don't have software to look at the lottery in different novelty ways...

                            The only way i can think of to evince a breakthrough in Pick6 (and only pick6) is by reduction like how i mentioned earlier or by hot wheel creation...And the only way i can think of reducing is by EXPLORING THE AREA OF RANDOM WALK OR how i call it DIGITAL FOOTPRINTS...(digital from the word digit meaning number)...It is similar to DRAW SKIP SEQUENCE but in Random walk/Digital Footprints you are focusing on the lenghs of it number footprints as it plays, similar to counting steps when walking or taking the difference between steps....It is similar to the Encyclopedia of Integer Sequence: http://www.research.att.com/~njas/sequences/A060842......The only difference is that one is mathematical in nature the other is lottery wise or randomwise...And it will be such a relief because it will mean that you would be able to hit the lottery constantly with like 5-10 dollars...

                            Would like to add that there is no one system to crack all lotteries: each lottery has a unique system that can crack it if it does exist...What i am saying is that you have to tackle each lottery differently...

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                              One example of Digital Footprints is: if the number 28 plays on draw number 10th what are the odds it will play on draw 20th; in draw number 10th again if you take the difference...Or if the number 28 plays on draw number 27th what are the odds it will play on draw number 54th: in draw number 28th again if you take the difference between draw number 27th and draw number 54th...Taking advantage accumulative of this subtle patterns is that Digital Footprints or Random Walk is all about...And it will be such a relief if such breakthrough is found because it will mean that you would be able to hit the lottery constantly with like 5-10 dollars or even more 1 DOLLAR...

                              When i say the word Random Walk i am not refering to the Commonly known Stochaic Process...