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Is statistics method really useful to predict drawing number?

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LottoVantage's avatar - BRITIS 3.GIF
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Posted: February 25, 2008, 12:37 pm - IP Logged

There is a statistical system. It's identified as "The StatPath-5", and "The StatPath-6 Lotto Systems". How well these systems work strictly depends on your individual definition of successful wins.

Win the Jackpot every time you play? Are you kidding me?

 

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    Posted: February 25, 2008, 1:41 pm - IP Logged

    Raven62

    They are selling a system, they are making up their "facts".

    The Powerball site is a lottery website that keeps statistics on actual results, not "maybes" and woulda shoulda couldas.

    If you're so anxious to believe the "facts" on the sytem seller's website, why do doubt the real-life facts on the Powerball site? 

    I already told you the source of information, it's the FAQ page of the Powerball site.  

    Once again, beware the tout.  

    Coin Toss,

    Overall the Facts on the System Sellers Site seem more realistic when talking about the State Lotteries (their are 100's of other games not just PowerBall): If you have Proof that they are made-up please post you Source otherwise you should concede that they did Research on the Subject and that their figures are true and accurate.

    As far as PowerBall goes how do you know their figures are correct? PowerBall wants their Players to Buy Quick Picks Not Select their Own Numbers. Why? That way they have full control  of the Game and decided who wins and who loses.

    A mind once stretched by a new idea never returns to its original dimensions!

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      Posted: February 25, 2008, 2:00 pm - IP Logged

      There is a statistical system. It's identified as "The StatPath-5", and "The StatPath-6 Lotto Systems". How well these systems work strictly depends on your individual definition of successful wins.

      Win the Jackpot every time you play? Are you kidding me?

      If a system comes close to breaking even, limiting the player lost to very little overall regardless of the amount spent on lottery tickets then I would call it successful.  So far, no one has come up with such a system.  Even when a player beats the overall odds of winning something, he usually wins one of the lower prizes which covers less than 10% of his cost.

       * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
         
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        Posted: February 25, 2008, 2:18 pm - IP Logged

        ??

         

        Do you believe it?   I don't believe it :-( 

        Stats are useful, but people mistake 'useful' for 'a guarantee'.

        Most successful people worked hard and/or got a good break and ran with it. Most unsuccessful people didn't.

        Some people worked hard, but ran into some illness or bad luck.

        Some lazy slobs happened to be born into wealth or filed the right lawsuit. 

        All in all, no guarantees. Stats serve as a guideline.

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          Posted: February 25, 2008, 5:07 pm - IP Logged

          Raven62

          "As far as PowerBall goes how do you know their figures are correct?PowerBall wants their Players to Buy Quick Picks Not Select their OwnNumbers. Why? That way they have full control  of the Game and decidedwho wins and who loses."

          I would be muich more inclined to think that with the odds against hitting Powerball, they don't really care how people get their numbers, just that they play!

          Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

          Lep

          There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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            Posted: February 25, 2008, 6:23 pm - IP Logged

            ??

             

            Do you believe it?   I don't believe it :-( 

            U should post this as a .....POLL

            but, thanks for ur ? leading TOO

            NOWHERE>>>>>

            It appear's UR L@@K'g for DATA>>>>>>>???????????????????

            ANSWER:

            IT HELP'ssssssss....OK????....(THANK's) LOL>>

            PSYKOMO 

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              Posted: February 25, 2008, 8:10 pm - IP Logged

              The statistical method one might assume uses statistics, I think statistics do a better job than guessing or RNG.  Birthdays work well also as we just saw in Ga. $270M with birthdays. Kinda throws water on the birthdays don't work crowd.

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                Posted: February 25, 2008, 8:40 pm - IP Logged

                The statistical method one might assume uses statistics, I think statistics do a better job than guessing or RNG.  Birthdays work well also as we just saw in Ga. $270M with birthdays. Kinda throws water on the birthdays don't work crowd.

                How many times have "birthdays" or "anniversaries" or some other significant date won a jackpot?  I would be amazed if this occurred more than three times in the whole history of the lottory.  I don't mean to knock this way of picking numbers but I, for one, would prefer a more viable method.

                Anybody got one?

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                  Posted: February 25, 2008, 8:54 pm - IP Logged

                  How many times have "birthdays" or "anniversaries" or some other significant date won a jackpot?  I would be amazed if this occurred more than three times in the whole history of the lottory.  I don't mean to knock this way of picking numbers but I, for one, would prefer a more viable method.

                  Anybody got one?

                  It won an 82 mil (or something like that) jackpot here in Idaho about 12 years ago.  She always played her brothers and sisters ages.  She filled out her play slip then remembered one brother had just had a BD and it was wrong.  But she didn't have time to change it so took the ticket and won.

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                    Posted: February 26, 2008, 12:13 am - IP Logged

                    The statistical method one might assume uses statistics, I think statistics do a better job than guessing or RNG.  Birthdays work well also as we just saw in Ga. $270M with birthdays. Kinda throws water on the birthdays don't work crowd.

                    Jarasan

                    The usual thinking on birthdays is that a lot of people play them and if all your numbers are birthdays, thus no number being over 31, if you do hit, you'll be splitting a lot of ways.

                    That didn;t happend with this $270,000,000 jackpot and is yet another reason why this couple was extremely lucky.  

                    Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                    Lep

                    There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                      Posted: February 26, 2008, 12:29 am - IP Logged

                      How many times have "birthdays" or "anniversaries" or some other significant date won a jackpot?  I would be amazed if this occurred more than three times in the whole history of the lottory.  I don't mean to knock this way of picking numbers but I, for one, would prefer a more viable method.

                      Anybody got one?

                      Since its last matrix change, MegaMillions alone have had seven drawings where all the numbers were 31 or less.

                       09/27/05  - 14 17 26 27 28 +05
                       11/08/05  - 08 16 21 25 27 +16
                       03/21/06  - 04 16 17 28 31 +08
                       04/10/07  - 07 15 16 19 28 +10
                       06/15/07  - 01 05 16 26 30 +21
                       06/22/07  - 11 14 21 24 31 +23
                       02/22/08  - 07 12 13 19 22 +10

                       * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                         
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                        Posted: February 26, 2008, 1:09 am - IP Logged

                        Statistics can tell you a lot about previous drawings:
                         
                         Which combinations have won in the past drawings.
                         The numbers drawn most often or least drawn
                         The percentage of even verses odd or low verses high numbers drawn
                         Which bonus numbers are drawn the most or least
                         Which numbers are the most or least active (hot or cold)
                         .....and much more

                        The problem is knowing how to use this information to win a lottery.  There are those who claim to be developing a formula to plug in such data and pick a winner, but it's an idea that's still being worked on as far as I know.

                        By me.   LOL

                        I have tons of stats, and tons of theories, probably too many.

                        You can use statistics to help you rule things in, and to rule things out, the trick is knowing what info to use when.

                        The next problem is, for most people, as soon as they have noticed a trend, that trend is usually ending, so if there IS a trend, you better notice it within 3 games, or forget it. 

                        I have a pretty good statistic I use to narrow down the Red ball itself, the problem is it only narrows it down to about 10 choices, and that's still too many. 

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                          Posted: February 26, 2008, 1:19 am - IP Logged

                          Some of you think too much.

                          A birthday is just a day, a date, that has a number assigned to it. OF COURSE one of these will hit once in awhile, the odds favor it. Nobody ever said 'birthdays don't win', but it's just as one said: you limit your numbers to 1-31, you are really limiting your chances.  So you need to play your birthdays, and a few games not made up of birthdays.

                          Same for race car numbers, NBA Player numbers, NFL, NHL, and any other 'number' you want to assign something to. 

                          You have any idea how many folks play #3, #7, #8, #29 and #31 ?

                          Or, for that matter, #3 and #8  (until this year) ? 

                          Or just use a dartboard - aka 'quick pick'. 

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                            Posted: February 26, 2008, 1:24 am - IP Logged

                            Since its last matrix change, MegaMillions alone have had seven drawings where all the numbers were 31 or less.

                             09/27/05  - 14 17 26 27 28 +05
                             11/08/05  - 08 16 21 25 27 +16
                             03/21/06  - 04 16 17 28 31 +08
                             04/10/07  - 07 15 16 19 28 +10
                             06/15/07  - 01 05 16 26 30 +21
                             06/22/07  - 11 14 21 24 31 +23
                             02/22/08  - 07 12 13 19 22 +10

                            Ok, guesses on the number of drawings for the remainder of '05, but figuring 2 for Sep of '05, 4 for Oct, 4 for Nov, and 5 for Dec

                            that makes '05 ((27-12-31)  15

                            '06 104

                            '07  104

                            thus far in '08  16

                            That makes 239 drawings, 7 of those had all numbers 31 or less.

                            7/239 = .029%

                            97.1% of those drawings had numbers over 31.

                            I think I'd "play the percentages".  

                            Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                            Lep

                            There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                              Posted: February 26, 2008, 7:48 am - IP Logged

                              Ok, guesses on the number of drawings for the remainder of '05, but figuring 2 for Sep of '05, 4 for Oct, 4 for Nov, and 5 for Dec

                              that makes '05 ((27-12-31)  15

                              '06 104

                              '07  104

                              thus far in '08  16

                              That makes 239 drawings, 7 of those had all numbers 31 or less.

                              7/239 = .029%

                              97.1% of those drawings had numbers over 31.

                              I think I'd "play the percentages".  

                              The MegaMillions matrix changed 06/24/2005 - 14 43 44 50 56 +07 which was 279 drawings ago.
                              There have been three drawings where all the numbers were greater than 31

                              08/28/07 -  37 40 48 53 56  +44
                              02/09/07 -  32 39 46 48 49  +41
                              09/20/05 -  35 36 40 42 52  +45

                               * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                                 
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