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Houston
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If you're the type of player that looks for patterns in the numbers (Mega Million), column 1-3 works the "same" in a system or a method.

Column 4 and 5 almost, always goes opposite or totally different. To try your method or system in the same manner for column 1-3, ends up giving questionable results. Be aware of that --- it's not that your method or system is useless. Column 4 and 5 and the Mega Ball have the highest odds therefore it requires a system or method different from the way you approach column 1-3.

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Statistical expected position frequency chart for 5/56 matrix:

Note that Column 1 and Column 5 are exactly the same - in inverse order. The same is true for Columns 2 and 4. The frequencies in Column 3 are the same at either end and remain that way to the center when the two selected numbers total 57.

Speaking of Sum 57, when doing a horizontal analysis, when the sum of two numbers total 57, the number of appearances of each number in each column will be exactly the same - reversed.

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Statistical expected position frequency chart for 5/56 matrix:

Note that Column 1 and Column 5 are exactly the same - in inverse order. The same is true for Columns 2 and 4. The frequencies in Column 3 are the same at either end and remain that way to the center when the two selected numbers total 57.

Speaking of Sum 57, when doing a horizontal analysis, when the sum of two numbers total 57, the number of appearances of each number in each column will be exactly the same - reversed.

What do the numbers in those columns represent? EXPLAIN. When you say "Column 1" I have no idea what you're talking about.

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For Column 1 read Column A.
For Column 2 read Column B.
For Column 3 read Column C.
For Column 4 read Column D.
For Column 5 read Column E.

The numbers represent the frequency each number will appear in each column should all possible draws be listed.

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What do the numbers in those columns represent? EXPLAIN. When you say "Column 1" I have no idea what you're talking about.

Maybe this will clear it up: 341055 x 56 = 19,099,080 / 5 = 3,819,816 x 46 = 175,711,536

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Very interesting... Thanks

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Statistical expected position frequency chart for 5/56 matrix:

Note that Column 1 and Column 5 are exactly the same - in inverse order. The same is true for Columns 2 and 4. The frequencies in Column 3 are the same at either end and remain that way to the center when the two selected numbers total 57.

Speaking of Sum 57, when doing a horizontal analysis, when the sum of two numbers total 57, the number of appearances of each number in each column will be exactly the same - reversed.

Thanks for the information but this statistical is irrevelant to the point I'm making. I'm talking here, "methods" or "systems."

If one is using a workable method or system, there's evidence throughout the lottery matrix (by observation of patterns and depending how you view patterns) that columns 1-3 works to a compatible result. When approaching it the same way for column 4 and 5 and the Mega Ball, the result comes out different or "wrong."

I don't want to say the numbers are wrong but when you "know" your system or method very well, you can tell the type of numbers that should be produced...and if the numbers are breaking from the patterns "prematurely" and doing so for all the other numbers down that 4,5 and Mega ball columns then you know column 1-3 are compatible with the same method or system. Column 4,5 and Mega Ball are not compatible with the same method or system for columns 1-3. That's my point.

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There has been 319 MegaMillions drawings since the last matrix change.

06/24/05 TO 07/11/08   319 RECORDS ALL POSITIONS

1: 25    11: 21    21: 25    31: 31    41: 23    51: 32
2: 25    12: 34    22: 30    32: 27    42: 32    52: 31
3: 26    13: 30    23: 21    33: 25    43: 34    53: 40
4: 25    14: 39    24: 34    34: 21    44: 30    54: 33
5: 39    15: 22    25: 37    35: 28    45: 26    55: 25
6: 20    16: 28    26: 27    36: 35    46: 38    56: 29
7: 36    17: 28    27: 26    37: 22    47: 18    57: 0
8: 30    18: 29    28: 23    38: 28    48: 35    58: 0
9: 28    19: 23    29: 23    39: 29    49: 22    59: 0
10: 22    20: 32    30: 30    40: 34    50: 29    60: 0

FIRST POSITION
1: 25    11: 9     21: 4     31: 1     41: 0     51: 0
2: 23    12: 11    22: 3     32: 1     42: 0     52: 0
3: 23    13: 9     23: 0     33: 0     43: 0     53: 0
4: 17    14: 20    24: 7     34: 0     44: 0     54: 0
5: 28    15: 7     25: 1     35: 1     45: 0     55: 0
6: 16    16: 12    26: 0     36: 1     46: 0     56: 0
7: 25    17: 5     27: 4     37: 1     47: 0     57: 0
8: 20    18: 6     28: 2     38: 1     48: 0     58: 0
9: 16    19: 6     29: 1     39: 1     49: 0     59: 0
10: 8     20: 4     30: 0     40: 0     50: 0     60: 0

SECOND POSITION
1: 0     11: 8     21: 12    31: 4     41: 1     51: 0
2: 2     12: 16    22: 11    32: 7     42: 2     52: 0
3: 3     13: 16    23: 6     33: 2     43: 1     53: 0
4: 8     14: 16    24: 13    34: 2     44: 0     54: 0
5: 8     15: 11    25: 12    35: 6     45: 0     55: 0
6: 4     16: 10    26: 7     36: 5     46: 0     56: 0
7: 9     17: 14    27: 5     37: 3     47: 0     57: 0
8: 8     18: 12    28: 5     38: 3     48: 0     58: 0
9: 11    19: 11    29: 6     39: 3     49: 0     59: 0
10: 12    20: 13    30: 8     40: 3     50: 0     60: 0

THIRD POSITION
1: 0     11: 4     21: 7     31: 13    41: 7     51: 1
2: 0     12: 7     22: 11    32: 9     42: 8     52: 1
3: 0     13: 4     23: 12    33: 9     43: 8     53: 1
4: 0     14: 3     24: 10    34: 7     44: 8     54: 1
5: 3     15: 4     25: 12    35: 13    45: 4     55: 0
6: 0     16: 5     26: 14    36: 10    46: 6     56: 0
7: 1     17: 8     27: 12    37: 13    47: 2     57: 0
8: 2     18: 9     28: 6     38: 8     48: 5     58: 0
9: 1     19: 2     29: 5     39: 8     49: 0     59: 0
10: 2     20: 14    30: 9     40: 9     50: 1     60: 0

FORTH POSITION
1: 0     11: 0     21: 2     31: 10    41: 9     51: 13
2: 0     12: 0     22: 4     32: 9     42: 15    52: 6
3: 0     13: 1     23: 3     33: 7     43: 13    53: 10
4: 0     14: 0     24: 4     34: 7     44: 9     54: 2
5: 0     15: 0     25: 12    35: 5     45: 13    55: 3
6: 0     16: 1     26: 5     36: 12    46: 18    56: 0
7: 1     17: 1     27: 4     37: 5     47: 8     57: 0
8: 0     18: 2     28: 8     38: 12    48: 16    58: 0
9: 0     19: 4     29: 10    39: 12    49: 10    59: 0
10: 0     20: 0     30: 10    40: 14    50: 9     60: 0

FIFTH POSITION
1: 0     11: 0     21: 0     31: 3     41: 6     51: 18
2: 0     12: 0     22: 1     32: 1     42: 7     52: 24
3: 0     13: 0     23: 0     33: 7     43: 12    53: 29
4: 0     14: 0     24: 0     34: 5     44: 13    54: 30
5: 0     15: 0     25: 0     35: 3     45: 9     55: 22
6: 0     16: 0     26: 1     36: 7     46: 14    56: 29
7: 0     17: 0     27: 1     37: 0     47: 8     57: 0
8: 0     18: 0     28: 2     38: 4     48: 14    58: 0
9: 0     19: 0     29: 1     39: 5     49: 12    59: 0
10: 0     20: 1     30: 3     40: 8     50: 19    60: 0

BONUS POSITION
1: 8     11: 8     21: 10    31: 3     41: 8
2: 9     12: 9     22: 11    32: 5     42: 11
3: 5     13: 3     23: 5     33: 5     43: 6
4: 10    14: 6     24: 4     34: 5     44: 9
5: 9     15: 10    25: 5     35: 10    45: 5
6: 7     16: 6     26: 6     36: 11    46: 4
7: 10    17: 6     27: 4     37: 8     47: 0
8: 7     18: 4     28: 3     38: 8     48: 0
9: 7     19: 4     29: 7     39: 6     49: 0
10: 11    20: 7     30: 8     40: 6     50: 0

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The information here is for informational and entertainment purposes only. As in any game of chance, there is the risk of losing money and when playing you assume all risk, liabilities and damages which may arise out of its use.

The official Lottery Post disclaimer.

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If you're the type of player that looks for patterns in the numbers (Mega Million), column 1-3 works the "same" in a system or a method.

Column 4 and 5 almost, always goes opposite or totally different. To try your method or system in the same manner for column 1-3, ends up giving questionable results. Be aware of that --- it's not that your method or system is useless. Column 4 and 5 and the Mega Ball have the highest odds therefore it requires a system or method different from the way you approach column 1-3.

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Thanks for the information but this statistical is irrevelant to the point I'm making. I'm talking here, "methods" or "systems."

If one is using a workable method or system, there's evidence throughout the lottery matrix (by observation of patterns and depending how you view patterns) that columns 1-3 works to a compatible result. When approaching it the same way for column 4 and 5 and the Mega Ball, the result comes out different or "wrong."

I don't want to say the numbers are wrong but when you "know" your system or method very well, you can tell the type of numbers that should be produced...and if the numbers are breaking from the patterns "prematurely" and doing so for all the other numbers down that 4,5 and Mega ball columns then you know column 1-3 are compatible with the same method or system. Column 4,5 and Mega Ball are not compatible with the same method or system for columns 1-3. That's my point.

Column 4,5 and Mega Ball are not compatible with the same method or system for columns 1-3. That's my point.

That's obvious since the Mega Ball is chosen from a different pool of numbers. You also don't have to apply the method to just a subset of columns(for example, columns 1-3); it can be applied to the entire set. Also, a single method should be used on numbers that are in the same pool.

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Column 4,5 and Mega Ball are not compatible with the same method or system for columns 1-3. That's my point.

That's obvious since the Mega Ball is chosen from a different pool of numbers. You also don't have to apply the method to just a subset of columns(for example, columns 1-3); it can be applied to the entire set. Also, a single method should be used on numbers that are in the same pool.

Okay....I see there's a lot of confusion by what I meant by "using methods or systems." I will substitute "method" for patterns -- that should clarify the picture.

The patterns in column 1-3 runs differently in column 4 and 5....and you right, the Mega Ball is chosen from a different pool of numbers.

When I look at patterns in column 1-3, I see the same "similarities." When I look at patterns in columns 4 and 5, it's different. How? For example, let's say the patterns in 1-3 are defined as 3 high numbers and 1 low number which completes a pattern. I see (for example) this type of activity throughout columns 1-3 therefore it's a reliable patterns in the lottery matrix.

Then, when I move to column 4 and 5, it reads like this: 2 high numbers and 2 low numbers completes a patterns. And as I move down the lines, I see a pattern just like the ones in columns 1-3... a mixture of them, too.

That tells me, column 4 and 5 is a mixture of the patterns from 1-3 and those 2 high, 2 low numbers to completes a pattern.

Clear?

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Okay....I see there's a lot of confusion by what I meant by "using methods or systems." I will substitute "method" for patterns -- that should clarify the picture.

The patterns in column 1-3 runs differently in column 4 and 5....and you right, the Mega Ball is chosen from a different pool of numbers.

When I look at patterns in column 1-3, I see the same "similarities." When I look at patterns in columns 4 and 5, it's different. How? For example, let's say the patterns in 1-3 are defined as 3 high numbers and 1 low number which completes a pattern. I see (for example) this type of activity throughout columns 1-3 therefore it's a reliable patterns in the lottery matrix.

Then, when I move to column 4 and 5, it reads like this: 2 high numbers and 2 low numbers completes a patterns. And as I move down the lines, I see a pattern just like the ones in columns 1-3... a mixture of them, too.

That tells me, column 4 and 5 is a mixture of the patterns from 1-3 and those 2 high, 2 low numbers to completes a pattern.

Clear?

I don't understand why you're comparing a pattern for a subset of 3 numbers(1-3), to a pattern for a subset of 2 different numbers(4-5). Why not compare 1-3 and 3-5?

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Nooooo Guru!

Listen, 1-3 represent the columns. Not the numbers....or you can say the positions: Postion 1, Position 2, Position 3, Position 4, and Position 5.

I call them "columns." When I say column 1-3, I meant the Positions 1-3.

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