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Houston
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column 1-2 and 5 are the key columns. A lot of us know that. Sticking with those columns and finding the numbers for column 3 and 4 is the problem at hand.

If for instance you have noted over time that 3 numbers have appeared in more drawings than not then wheel the left over numbers in column 3-4 it could get expensive but to win a jackpot or match all 5 white balls is the goal.

It would almost be the same thing if you just played all the hottest numbers and eliminated the rest.

How many people do you think are doing that every draw.

My weakness is a lack of strength in my method to pick the "first number" in a whole number. I don't do wheeling...just purely on methods that derives purely from the Lottery matrix of Mega Million. Any suggestions?

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column 1-2 and 5 are the key columns. A lot of us know that. Sticking with those columns and finding the numbers for column 3 and 4 is the problem at hand.

If for instance you have noted over time that 3 numbers have appeared in more drawings than not then wheel the left over numbers in column 3-4 it could get expensive but to win a jackpot or match all 5 white balls is the goal.

It would almost be the same thing if you just played all the hottest numbers and eliminated the rest.

How many people do you think are doing that every draw.

If you need the numbers for column 3 and 4, I can give you the "end numbers" to the whole numbers. Two of them will be high numbers and two of them will be low numbers, you'd have to take your pick.

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If you need the numbers for column 3 and 4, I can give you the "end numbers" to the whole numbers. Two of them will be high numbers and two of them will be low numbers, you'd have to take your pick.

I don't just chose my selections from inner space i study the game, keep excel files, track the game, keep records, use the statistical analysis from mega million site Todd has created.

I usually put my plan into action when the pot gets to around 200 million. I wheel my numbers i got the wheel from another poster. I sometimes modify the wheels numbers after it's created giving me a varied number selection. The wheel could cost anywhere from 12 to 56 bucks depending on which wheel i use and how many lines i play.

Regardless of which method people use results will only be obtained if you chose the right selections.

I will regret it if i modify a wheels selection after it's generated and the numbers i switch are the numbers they draw.

While I am  curious how you make your selection it's not necessary for you to give me anything.

You have a few hours left to join Maddogs mega millions challenge.

12 white balls and 4 mega balls go for it. What do you have to lose by joining in on th fun. if your method is what you say it is you should be getting the bragging rights after the draw is done.

Big John says. You don't hit the number. The number hits you!!!!

I'm not Big John, I'm Four4me, Big John's a friend.
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Dude, if you share your possible "significant" insight, I will do the same. I hope others will come forward to share what they know too.

There's a lot of "good minds" on L.P. but none of them are actually coming out and sharing what they know. Todd, of course, would disagree with me and I gave him the benefit of the doubt and research countless of pages of history on this site and I just don't see any outpouring of significant information that engage, in the mode of BobP (he actually illustrated a system and actually encourage others to do so and share --- I totally agree with him).

I know why it's hard to just "come out and share" but there's an email feature on L.P. and we can actually set up a team of members to chuck around "real knowledge" about the game. I'm waiting for such a "secret community to hit me up to join otherwise, I have to sit back like the rest of us and wait for someone to do it first.

Haha... it's a tough propositon, I know...

The chart RJ supplied shows that 50% of the MM numbers in the first position are between 1 to 14, 50% in the second position are from 9 to 25, and 50% in the other three positions are 18 to 37, 25 to 46, and 47 to 56. That's a 83% reduction and adding other standard filters like 2 or 3 even numbers and 2 or 3 low numbers, reduces the field by 90.2%; I would hardly call that "insignificant insight".

"I know why it's hard to just "come out and share" but there's an email feature on L.P. and we can actually set up a team of members to chuck around "real knowledge" about the game."

Knowledge is knowing that even if we reduce the field in half to 28 numbers (I used the 28 most frequent numbers), use those two filters with those positional limits, and those filters and limits are the distribution in the 5 drawn numbers, we would have to play 9708 combinations to guarantee matching all 5 numbers. It's also knowing there are almost 4 million possible combinations in the 5/56 matrix and there have only been 320 (0.008%) drawings.

"I'm waiting for such a "secret community to hit me up"

After months of discussion maybe a LP think tank would come up the conclusion the number 25 was in the fourth position 12 times out of the 37 times it was drawn. Johnph's chart shows the number 25 will be in the fourth position in only 3.1% of its possible 341,055 combinations and that's one of the reasons you think "Column 4 and 5 almost, always goes opposite or totally different." Another reason might be the fact 50% of the numbers drawn in position 5 are 50 and higher.

"I have to sit back like the rest of us and wait for someone to do it first."

Or you could do what I did in about 5 minutes; actually examine and compare the charts provided by Johnmp and RJ instead of sitting back and waiting somebody will do it for me.

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 DIVISIBILITY GRID FOR MM. How many times a combination is divisible by a multiplier. MULTIPLIER PRIMES 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 0 98280 501942 850668 1221759 1533939 1712304 1906884 2118760 2349060 575757 1 573300 1328670 1567020 1638945 1605285 1556640 1483132 1381800 1249500 1316016 2 1238328 1290708 1044680 780450 583740 484288 386904 294000 208250 1178931 3 1238328 573648 313404 163350 90804 63168 41160 24500 12750 561184 4 573300 116280 42024 14850 5922 3360 1715 750 255 159900 5 98280 8568 2002 462 126 56 21 6 1 26208

 "LAST DIGIT DISTRIBUTIONS" " THE AMOUNT OF DIFFERENT LAST DIGITS IN COMBINATIONS" "AMT" % 0 1375956 55.468 "ALL DIFFERENT LAST DIGITS" 1 1902200 49.798 "4 - DIFFERENT LAST DIGITS" 2 338100 8.851 "3 - DIFFERENT LAST DIGITS" 3 179400 4.697 "2 - DIFFERENT LAST DIGITS" 4 18600 0.487 "1 - DIFFERENT LAST DIGIT" 5 0 0.000 "ALL THE SAME LAST DIGIT"
 DECADES POSITIONAL DISTRIBUTIONS RANGE 1 2 3 4 5 "1-10" 2449062 817212 134112 9912 252 "11-20" 993762 1447512 774012 180012 15252 "21-30" 311212 1040812 1266412 665112 127002 "31-40" 61412 437112 1131312 1265212 515502 "41-50" 4362 76412 488712 1380312 1460752 "51-56" 6 756 25256 319256 1701056 3819816 3819816 3819816 3819816 3819816

You are a slave to the choices you have made.  jk

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 DECADES POSITIONAL DISTRIBUTIONS RANGE 1 2 3 4 5 "1-10" 2449062 817212 134112 9912 252 "11-20" 993762 1447512 774012 180012 15252 "21-30" 311212 1040812 1266412 665112 127002 "31-40" 61412 437112 1131312 1265212 515502 "41-50" 4362 76412 488712 1380312 1460752 "51-56" 6 756 25256 319256 1701056 3819816 3819816 3819816 3819816 3819816

OCCURENCE TABLES

 "1 GAME DISTRIBUTION OVER 100 GAMES" 1 2 3 4 5 0 100 100 100 100 78 1 22 "2 GAME DISTRIBUTION OVER 100 GAMES" 1 2 3 4 5 0 100 100 98 85 50 1 2 15 48 2 2 "3 GAME DISTRIBUTION OVER 100 GAMES" 1 2 3 4 5 0 100 100 96 69 24 1 0 4 31 72 2 4 3 "4 GAME DISTRIBUTION OVER 100 GAMES" 1 2 3 4 5 0 100 100 88 47 13 1 12 52 74 2 1 13 3 4 "5 GAME DISTRIBUTION OVER 100 GAMES" 1 2 3 4 5 0 100 99 75 39 5 1 1 25 59 70 2 2 25 3 4 "6 GAME DISTRIBUTION OVER 100 GAMES" 1 2 3 4 5 0 100 94 65 28 5 1 6 35 66 60 2 6 34 3 1 4 5 6 "7 GAME DISTRIBUTION OVER 100 GAMES" 1 2 3 4 5 0 100 88 57 22 4 1 12 43 67 59 2 11 31 3 6 4 5 6 "8 GAME DISTRIBUTION OVER 100 GAMES" 1 2 3 4 5 0 98 80 51 16 1 1 2 20 47 71 59 2 2 12 34 3 1 6 4 5 6 "9 GAME DISTRIBUTION OVER 100 GAMES" 1 2 3 4 5 0 97 74 45 12 1 1 3 26 52 72 48 2 3 15 40 3 1 11 4 5 6 "10 GAME DISTRIBUTION OVER 100 GAMES" 1 2 3 4 5 0 94 68 38 8 1 1 6 32 59 69 36 2 3 22 48 3 1 14 4 1 5 6 "11 GAME DISTRIBUTION OVER 100 GAMES" 1 2 3 4 5 0 93 61 32 6 1 7 39 61 64 28 2 7 29 54 3 1 17 4 1 5 6 7 8 9 "12 GAME DISTRIBUTION OVER 100 GAMES" 1 2 3 4 5 0 91 57 24 2 1 9 43 64 58 23 2 12 38 56 3 2 19 4 2 5 6 7 8 9 "13 GAME DISTRIBUTION OVER 100 GAMES" 1 2 3 4 5 0 88 52 17 1 1 12 46 66 50 13 2 2 17 47 57 3 2 25 4 5 5 6 7 8 9 "14 GAME DISTRIBUTION OVER 100 GAMES" 1 2 3 4 5 0 85 44 15 1 15 52 64 40 9 2 4 21 58 53 3 2 32 4 6 5 6 7 8 9 "15 GAME DISTRIBUTION OVER 100 GAMES" 1 2 3 4 5 0 81 40 8 1 19 53 65 38 8 2 7 27 59 44 3 3 40 4 8 5 6 7 8 9 "16 GAME DISTRIBUTION OVER 100 GAMES" 1 2 3 4 5 0 77 34 7 1 23 58 63 31 7 2 8 29 61 34 3 1 8 46 4 12 5 1 6 7 8 9 "17 GAME DISTRIBUTION OVER 100 GAMES" 1 2 3 4 5 0 74 30 5 1 26 59 57 17 5 2 11 36 71 33 3 2 12 46 4 15 5 1 6 7 8 9 "18 GAME DISTRIBUTION OVER 100 GAMES" 1 2 3 4 5 0 66 25 2 1 33 62 57 13 3 2 1 12 39 70 27 3 1 2 17 52 4 16 5 2 6 7 8 9 "19 GAME DISTRIBUTION OVER 100 GAMES" 1 2 3 4 5 0 65 22 2 1 33 62 48 9 1 2 2 14 45 64 19 3 2 4 27 59 4 17 5 4 6 7 8 9 "20 GAME DISTRIBUTION OVER 100 GAMES" 1 2 3 4 5 0 62 19 1 1 36 61 40 8 1 2 2 18 52 60 15 3 2 7 30 56 4 2 22 5 6 6 7 8 9 "21 GAME DISTRIBUTION OVER 100 GAMES" 1 2 3 4 5 0 60 15 1 38 61 36 7 1 2 2 20 55 53 14 3 4 9 35 50 4 5 29 5 6 6 7 8 9 "22 GAME DISTRIBUTION OVER 100 GAMES" 1 2 3 4 5 0 59 13 1 38 57 33 6 1 2 3 24 55 49 13 3 6 12 399 43 4 6 35 5 7 6 1 7 8 9 "23 GAME DISTRIBUTION OVER 100 GAMES" 1 2 3 4 5 0 50 13 1 47 53 29 6 1 2 3 28 58 41 10 3 6 12 45 39 4 1 8 42 5 5 6 3 7 8 9 "24 GAME DISTRIBUTION OVER 100 GAMES" 1 2 3 4 5 0 48 9 1 47 52 23 4 1 2 5 32 59 39 7 3 7 17 45 38 4 1 12 40 5 11 6 3 7 8 9 "25 GAME DISTRIBUTION OVER 100 GAMES" 1 2 3 4 5 0 44 6 1 48 51 22 4 1 2 8 36 54 35 6 3 7 23 48 35 4 1 12 41 5 1 13 6 4 7 8 9 "26 GAME DISTRIBUTION OVER 100 GAMES" 1 2 3 4 5 0 38 5 1 53 48 20 4 1 2 8 37 52 30 4 3 1 10 24 48 31 4 4 17 43 5 1 17 6 4 7 8 9 "27 GAME DISTRIBUTION OVER 100 GAMES" 1 2 3 4 5 0 33 3 1 56 43 15 3 1 2 10 42 51 28 3 3 1 11 29 44 23 4 1 5 24 47 5 1 22 6 4 7 8 9 "28 GAME DISTRIBUTION OVER 100 GAMES" 1 2 3 4 5 0 29 3 1 54 41 13 1 1 2 15 42 49 27 3 3 2 12 32 46 21 4 2 6 23 45 5 3 26 6 4 7 8 9 "29 GAME DISTRIBUTION OVER 100 GAMES" 1 2 3 4 5 0 29 2 1 50 37 10 1 1 2 19 47 49 20 2 3 2 11 35 48 18 4 3 6 28 41 5 3 31 6 7 7 8 9 "30 GAME DISTRIBUTION OVER 100 GAMES" 1 2 3 4 5 0 24 2 1 53 33 8 1 1 2 21 50 1 16 2 3 2 12 44 43 16 4 3 42 35 38 5 6 5 34 6 8 7 1 8 9

You are a slave to the choices you have made.  jk

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Johnny, Rjoh, Four4me, and Stack,

Thanks for the information (statistical charts). I've been mistaken here. I really thought you guys do studies that goes deeper than "statistical charts." Not that it's a bad thing but, realistically, how can those charts help a player pick 1 or 2 or 3 numbers for each columns? If you look at the chart from JKing, column one shows numbers from 1-10 playing 244962 times -- I mean, how can one take that information and figure which number out of the ten can be "realistically" played with a real potential to be right? Excuse me but that's not helpful insight, people.

I'm playing on a deeper field. Statistical charts are nothing more than "surface" information. For the same reason you can compile a statistical chart effortless, is the same reason it won't help you on on the next Mega Million draw. You see my point?

I dealing with algorithm approaches. I'm compiling "understandings" how the numbers move from the previous to the next. I'm looking at specific patterns and studying the numbers within that specific pattern and why it play like it does. Why a high single digit like number 9 can play and then drop to 2 on the next draw -- that's the turf I'm playing on, folks. I'm much much deeper than statistical charts.

As I stated earlier, I have no problem knowing the last digit numbers, my weakness is the "first numbers" of the whole number -- that's what's what keeping me from posting on Maddog Challenge until I get it right and know exactly what "few numbers" will play for each column. That's the kind of player I am.

I'm willing to share my knowledge. I invest many years to be where I'm at and I'd like to meet others that approach the game in the same manner or dealing with the same "studies" -- those hard-to-find secrets about jackpot games. It's "intense" information and that's why people like myself guard those type of information at all cost unless the community, on the whole, have that same "verseness" about the game and I haven't seen it. That's also what I was trying to explain to Todd. I give up, though. I will continue with my studies and post on Maddog's Challeng when ready.

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Johnny, Rjoh, Four4me, and Stack,

Thanks for the information (statistical charts). I've been mistaken here. I really thought you guys do studies that goes deeper than "statistical charts." Not that it's a bad thing but, realistically, how can those charts help a player pick 1 or 2 or 3 numbers for each columns? If you look at the chart from JKing, column one shows numbers from 1-10 playing 244962 times -- I mean, how can one take that information and figure which number out of the ten can be "realistically" played with a real potential to be right? Excuse me but that's not helpful insight, people.

I'm playing on a deeper field. Statistical charts are nothing more than "surface" information. For the same reason you can compile a statistical chart effortless, is the same reason it won't help you on on the next Mega Million draw. You see my point?

I dealing with algorithm approaches. I'm compiling "understandings" how the numbers move from the previous to the next. I'm looking at specific patterns and studying the numbers within that specific pattern and why it play like it does. Why a high single digit like number 9 can play and then drop to 2 on the next draw -- that's the turf I'm playing on, folks. I'm much much deeper than statistical charts.

As I stated earlier, I have no problem knowing the last digit numbers, my weakness is the "first numbers" of the whole number -- that's what's what keeping me from posting on Maddog Challenge until I get it right and know exactly what "few numbers" will play for each column. That's the kind of player I am.

I'm willing to share my knowledge. I invest many years to be where I'm at and I'd like to meet others that approach the game in the same manner or dealing with the same "studies" -- those hard-to-find secrets about jackpot games. It's "intense" information and that's why people like myself guard those type of information at all cost unless the community, on the whole, have that same "verseness" about the game and I haven't seen it. That's also what I was trying to explain to Todd. I give up, though. I will continue with my studies and post on Maddog's Challeng when ready.

No matter how people have devised their strategy for winning jackpot games no theory is useless be it statistical or mathematical. Many of us doubt that mathematics can be applied to the lottery jackpot games but there are some who do.

An algorithm is a repetitious mathematical approach.

Statistical analysis is an ongoing work in progress.

To each his own.

A system no mater what it is needs only to work one time for me to be satisfied. Especially if that system generates all the winning numbers and the mega ball.

Big John says. You don't hit the number. The number hits you!!!!

I'm not Big John, I'm Four4me, Big John's a friend.

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All talk and no system. Or should I say...All talk and no walk.

Maybe others here an help. Or give a different perspective that will assist you.

But, with no details, nothing but fustration on everyones part. *S*

You are a slave to the choices you have made.  jk

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Todd,

I'm bending over backward to forge a working relationship with you, dude. If I'm saying something that you totally disagree with, that's fine but you have a lot of newcomers coming in and not "right away" finding what they looking for.

They're just like me when I first came: the inquiring minds wants to know. A lot of the newcomers are asking the same questions -- " how do I know when a number will play?," "what are ways to increase my chances of winning?," "when is a number due to play?," "are there any system out there that will help me..,"

It's questions like that, that are popular with the newcomers, Todd. Why would I just make this crap up, man? You have two eyes just like me so I know you're seeing these questions too. So please, save me the nonsense, Todd. No disrespect intend but I don't take you for a fool. My suggestions, concerns are legitimate. If my statements etc upsets the community then look at the "cause" behind it...it's legitimate, Todd.

If you don't like me or the way I say things to the community then accept my apology and I'll leave.

I agree with you 1000%.

Do not get fustrated. We have gotten old on this site. Sometimes I feel they don't get it or choose not to see it.

They tell you to post on maddog's challenge and you will be happy. But what is the point in that.

There is an element of secrecy whether intensional or not. That is why if you discovered something you would be reluctant to post it too.

But it is no secret a lot of people wouldn't tell others here if they won or not. You can imagine sharing their best systems.

When I joined this website, I was wide-eyed and eager to learn the secrets to winning the lottery. The best systems out there.

Today I feel like the prodigal son or the black sheep. I have tried suggesting working in groups which was met with objections. Now I don't pay attention to what others do. I filter out useful information where I can.

You probably shouldn't make post like what is the best system or what works for you. When I joined, I made posts like best betting stratergy etc like any curious person but not everybody is interested. Instead you get someone trying to explain to you that the numbers are random or pulling out all kinds of crazy statistics. I use what I have learned.

Todd is right only on the fact that the information you are looking for is not in black and white. Some of us has been through the same information over and over again. To find what you are looking for you might be a little late so you might have to dig deep. Try reading some old post, it might prove more fruitful than your exchange on this post.

Everything is significant, try to use in a way that solves you problem.

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Johnny, Rjoh, Four4me, and Stack,

Thanks for the information (statistical charts). I've been mistaken here. I really thought you guys do studies that goes deeper than "statistical charts." Not that it's a bad thing but, realistically, how can those charts help a player pick 1 or 2 or 3 numbers for each columns? If you look at the chart from JKing, column one shows numbers from 1-10 playing 244962 times -- I mean, how can one take that information and figure which number out of the ten can be "realistically" played with a real potential to be right? Excuse me but that's not helpful insight, people.

I'm playing on a deeper field. Statistical charts are nothing more than "surface" information. For the same reason you can compile a statistical chart effortless, is the same reason it won't help you on on the next Mega Million draw. You see my point?

I dealing with algorithm approaches. I'm compiling "understandings" how the numbers move from the previous to the next. I'm looking at specific patterns and studying the numbers within that specific pattern and why it play like it does. Why a high single digit like number 9 can play and then drop to 2 on the next draw -- that's the turf I'm playing on, folks. I'm much much deeper than statistical charts.

As I stated earlier, I have no problem knowing the last digit numbers, my weakness is the "first numbers" of the whole number -- that's what's what keeping me from posting on Maddog Challenge until I get it right and know exactly what "few numbers" will play for each column. That's the kind of player I am.

I'm willing to share my knowledge. I invest many years to be where I'm at and I'd like to meet others that approach the game in the same manner or dealing with the same "studies" -- those hard-to-find secrets about jackpot games. It's "intense" information and that's why people like myself guard those type of information at all cost unless the community, on the whole, have that same "verseness" about the game and I haven't seen it. That's also what I was trying to explain to Todd. I give up, though. I will continue with my studies and post on Maddog's Challeng when ready.

Mega-ThinkTank,

I got to agree with you as far as your pattern analysis goes.
I use a pattern analysis based on an occurrence matrix I developed.
I cross reference this with statistical methods to try to come up with
an ideal set of approximately ten numbers for the mega-million draw.
(extremely difficult to capture five winning numbers this way)

There are definite patterns that I have come across that are extremely
helpful in narrowing down the field to between (on average) 20 - 30
numbers and thereby capturing usually four winning numbers
approximately 60 percent of the time.  Based on my analysis, there are
definite patterns in relation to:
1.  Size of the jackpot in relation to the numbers picked.
2.  Last digit relationships.
3.  Repeat numbers.
5.  Trailing numbers.  (coldies)
6.  Occurrences matrices
7.  P
ossible correlation with powerball, but I'm still working on that.

What is even more interesting is the fact that the patterns repeat
themselves with different numbers each time which gives the
appearance of a random draw!  - - which I do not think the MB drawing is.

Good Luck!
LottoL

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I agree with you 1000%.

Do not get fustrated. We have gotten old on this site. Sometimes I feel they don't get it or choose not to see it.

They tell you to post on maddog's challenge and you will be happy. But what is the point in that.

There is an element of secrecy whether intensional or not. That is why if you discovered something you would be reluctant to post it too.

But it is no secret a lot of people wouldn't tell others here if they won or not. You can imagine sharing their best systems.

When I joined this website, I was wide-eyed and eager to learn the secrets to winning the lottery. The best systems out there.

Today I feel like the prodigal son or the black sheep. I have tried suggesting working in groups which was met with objections. Now I don't pay attention to what others do. I filter out useful information where I can.

You probably shouldn't make post like what is the best system or what works for you. When I joined, I made posts like best betting stratergy etc like any curious person but not everybody is interested. Instead you get someone trying to explain to you that the numbers are random or pulling out all kinds of crazy statistics. I use what I have learned.

Todd is right only on the fact that the information you are looking for is not in black and white. Some of us has been through the same information over and over again. To find what you are looking for you might be a little late so you might have to dig deep. Try reading some old post, it might prove more fruitful than your exchange on this post.

Everything is significant, try to use in a way that solves you problem.

Thanks for understanding. I was beginning to wonder how "alone" I am in the community. I agree with every single word you said. I see the community for what it is....and I made other posts about newcomers ( like yourself and I) that comes here and get pelted by the "established" members, resulting in those newcomers not wanting to contributing anything insigthful to the community.

I talked about it with Todd a couple times and it seems like I have to fight him with words when I only want to make suggestions. I mean, what's the point putting up a "Suggestion Forum" and then criticize those that make suggestions? That's crap, man.

You have the established members that thinks it's a daily ritual to tear down the insight from newcomers just to keep their old and out-dated information alive. I've seen posts by others where "something good" was getting started and then an established member interrupt the procession of information and attack it. Next thing you know, that newcomer never heard from again.

I hope Todd understands it's people like you (Editgap), ME, and the newcomers that are needed to push L.P. to new heights. Not the other way around.

As far as "finding old posts" to gleam insightful information, I made a suggestion for Todd to simplify the Search Engine where one can click (for example), "Methods" and a host of specific topics on methods will show up. It's a "categorization" that's needed to make the L.P. user-friendly in finding specific information aside from the attractive features already on the site.

As it stands, one still has to wade through thousand of pages, not knowing if he/she will find what he/she looking for. After ten or 20 pages of "looking through," it gets tiresome. There have to be a better, simplier way and that's another legitmate suggestion I made to Todd.

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Mega-ThinkTank,

I got to agree with you as far as your pattern analysis goes.
I use a pattern analysis based on an occurrence matrix I developed.
I cross reference this with statistical methods to try to come up with
an ideal set of approximately ten numbers for the mega-million draw.
(extremely difficult to capture five winning numbers this way)

There are definite patterns that I have come across that are extremely
helpful in narrowing down the field to between (on average) 20 - 30
numbers and thereby capturing usually four winning numbers
approximately 60 percent of the time.  Based on my analysis, there are
definite patterns in relation to:
1.  Size of the jackpot in relation to the numbers picked.
2.  Last digit relationships.
3.  Repeat numbers.
5.  Trailing numbers.  (coldies)
6.  Occurrences matrices
7.  P
ossible correlation with powerball, but I'm still working on that.

What is even more interesting is the fact that the patterns repeat
themselves with different numbers each time which gives the
appearance of a random draw!  - - which I do not think the MB drawing is.

Good Luck!
LottoL

Brilliant, dude!

I can honestly say you're a "real student" of the game. I can see how deep you're playing just from what you already know. Unbelievable.

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 Posted: July 16, 2008, 3:09 pm - IP Logged

The chart RJ supplied shows that 50% of the MM numbers in the first position are between 1 to 14, 50% in the second position are from 9 to 25, and 50% in the other three positions are 18 to 37, 25 to 46, and 47 to 56. That's a 83% reduction and adding other standard filters like 2 or 3 even numbers and 2 or 3 low numbers, reduces the field by 90.2%; I would hardly call that "insignificant insight".

"I know why it's hard to just "come out and share" but there's an email feature on L.P. and we can actually set up a team of members to chuck around "real knowledge" about the game."

Knowledge is knowing that even if we reduce the field in half to 28 numbers (I used the 28 most frequent numbers), use those two filters with those positional limits, and those filters and limits are the distribution in the 5 drawn numbers, we would have to play 9708 combinations to guarantee matching all 5 numbers. It's also knowing there are almost 4 million possible combinations in the 5/56 matrix and there have only been 320 (0.008%) drawings.

"I'm waiting for such a "secret community to hit me up"

After months of discussion maybe a LP think tank would come up the conclusion the number 25 was in the fourth position 12 times out of the 37 times it was drawn. Johnph's chart shows the number 25 will be in the fourth position in only 3.1% of its possible 341,055 combinations and that's one of the reasons you think "Column 4 and 5 almost, always goes opposite or totally different." Another reason might be the fact 50% of the numbers drawn in position 5 are 50 and higher.

"I have to sit back like the rest of us and wait for someone to do it first."

Or you could do what I did in about 5 minutes; actually examine and compare the charts provided by Johnmp and RJ instead of sitting back and waiting somebody will do it for me.

Many new players come to LP hoping someone or a group have developed a system or strategy that wins big and are willing to convince them that it really works.  Unfortunately, that's what people who are trying to sell something do, information as LP is shared freely as is.

The pick3 and pick4 forums are more active in that regards and the pick5 and jackpot forums have their supporters too but they haven't developed a consensus on what works.  Like johnph77, I and others post information and charts that are not systems or strategies and it's up to the readers to decide if the information is helpful.

I have lots of information and charts that I use to pick numbers to play and the best I've done so far is to reduce the number pool by about 40% which has all the winning numbers about 10% of the time.  25-30 numbers cover a lot of combinations and I'm lucky to get even a small win with 20-30 lines when all the winning numbers are in that pool.

As far as I know no LP member has ever won a jackpot so if he/she is using a system or strategy to pick their combinations the only way to know if they are improving their chances for a win shot of actually winning a jackpot is to compare their results with those of an equal number of QPs.   I use the LP Quick Pick generator to get my test groups.

* you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy winning ones *

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 Posted: July 16, 2008, 3:54 pm - IP Logged

The people who run these games aren't stupid they know people will devise many methods to try and win their games. However because they change the ball sets for every drawing how can anyone possible defeat that without having and using that information in their systems.

They change the balls sets to avoid a common occurrence of balls being drawn. If they used the same ball set for every draw then i think it would be possible to possibly trap the numbers once using some system.

How can you assume or even consider patterns in a game where the variables are constantly changing. The next draw might have a completely new set of balls for all we know and the next draw after that have a ball set they used 9 draws ago. They might rotate out the machine they use so the same balls and machine only get used tow or three times every month.

Believe me i have tried finding patterns to use in the mega and our own bonus match 5 game here in Maryland. While there are a few occurrences from month to month the numbers drawn never keep the same pattern. Of course there were numbers drawn more times over the course of the game so what if you cant find the numbers that are going to go along for the ride.

I have tried to take advantage of this by pooling different numbers to go along with whatever pattern i see emerging and sometimes i get close. But close only counts in horseshoes.

I am not against anyone using any methods to win these games but let be realistic about it.

Big John says. You don't hit the number. The number hits you!!!!

I'm not Big John, I'm Four4me, Big John's a friend.

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