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A question about lotto system odds

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Posted: January 11, 2010, 7:56 pm - IP Logged

FOR COLIN TOSSER

 

You ask me how many times would my friend have to play 17.500 lines to hit the big jackpot on a 6/49 lottery game, she tested her sysTHIS IS Ftem on 1000 plays of the lottery she would have won 65% of the time wining the main jackpot

 

In the UK there no limit on lottery tickets some one can buy,

from reading your post on this subject SYSTEMS odds you don’t know much do ya, you’ve been a member of this site since 2006 when I seen your user name I laugh my head of STAR SYSTEMS been watching to much star wars have ya, heard a saying on this site and though of you,

A mind once stretched by a new idea never returns to its original dimensions!

Bet your minds never been stretched has it Colin tosses, you’ve been picking every body else brains since 2006 for systems and still you no nor think

65% of 1,000 times is 650 times.   A 5 times jackpot winner is big news, imagine the news of a 650 times jackpot winner.

I think skepticism at your claims are well deserved.   I don't know who this Colin fella is nor have I been reading his posts but to be frank, your claims are making you look like a loony and the personal attack on Colin isn't doing your image any favours.

There's always limits as to how many lottery tickets you can buy, for one, how long does it take for the machine to print the tickets?   Another is how much money do you have to bankroll the investment?

I can see some of the more modest wheels being employed by lottery pools by sending multiple members to multiple vendors with playslips to purchase but any serious attempt to cover the field just isn't practical.

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    First jwhou post:

    If you really want us to determine if there's anything to your system, post it and we'll have a look.   We're not professional mathematicians but a fair number of us should have the skills needed to sort out what's going on.

    Then jwhou post:

    I think skepticism at your claims are well deserved.   I don't know who this Colin fella is nor have I been reading his posts but to be frank, your claims are making you look like a loony and the personal attack on Colin isn't doing your image any favours.

    COLIN TOSSER is Coin Toss, Sally added some extra letters to make him more interesting.

    This is what usually happens when someone post a story about someone they know who know someone who has a great system that wins all the time.  It become a big confused mess and no one knows what to believe.  Moses Kashani also of the U.K. has a similar story. http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/206241
    Only difference is the system is his.  He had the same story six years ago at LP and he still hasn't won a jackpot. Oogle

     * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
       
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      Posted: January 12, 2010, 2:47 am - IP Logged

      I think Moses's has said he has won a significant amount of money but not the JP.

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        Posted: January 12, 2010, 4:25 am - IP Logged

        Several times Sally has said her friend plays 8 tickets.  8 into 13.9 million is 1.75 million to 1.   I have the feeling that's the actual odds improvement we're talking about here instead of 17,500 to 1.   Nothing wrong with playing all the numbers on a minimum number of lines or playing several sets of them, can be done randomly or with some thought going into half the lines and the rest randomly made from the numbers left over.   Either way luck plays a major factor playing this way and every way. 

        Otherwise you can make a 100% (9,6,5,6+6,3,3)=8 a 9 number wheel in 8 lines that guarantees either a 5if6 or 3if3 prize with 6 or 3 winning numbers respectively falling among the 9.  Playing 9 numbers in 6/49 brings the odds down to:  1 in 166,474 of having all 6 winning numbers among the 9 that would in this case guarantee a 5 number prize.

        1 2 3 4 7 8
        1 2 3 7 8 9
        1 2 4 5 7 9
        1 2 4 6 8 9
        1 2 5 6 7 8
        1 3 5 6 8 9
        2 3 4 5 6 8
        3 4 5 6 7 9

        T if M    Tested Covered         % Not Covered     %
        ----------------------------------------------------
        2 If 2 :      36      36 100.00000       0   0.00000
        2 If 3 :      84      84 100.00000       0   0.00000
        2 If 4 :     126     126 100.00000       0   0.00000
        2 If 5 :     126     126 100.00000       0   0.00000
        2 If 6 :      84      84 100.00000       0   0.00000
        2 If 7 :      36      36 100.00000       0   0.00000
        3 If 3 :      84      84 100.00000       0   0.00000
        3 If 4 :     126     126 100.00000       0   0.00000
        3 If 5 :     126     126 100.00000       0   0.00000
        3 If 6 :      84      84 100.00000       0   0.00000
        3 If 7 :      36      36 100.00000       0   0.00000
        4 If 4 :     126      97  76.98413      29  23.01587
        4 If 5 :     126     126 100.00000       0   0.00000
        4 If 6 :      84      84 100.00000       0   0.00000
        4 If 7 :      36      36 100.00000       0   0.00000
        5 If 5 :     126      47  37.30159      79  62.69841
        5 If 6 :      84      84 100.00000       0   0.00000
        5 If 7 :      36      36 100.00000       0   0.00000
        6 If 7 :      36      23  63.88889      13  36.11111
         

        BobP

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          Posted: January 12, 2010, 5:44 am - IP Logged

          So if I was to say I know for the next powerball drawing the following:

          1. 1 WB will come from 5 balls.
          2. 1 WB will come from 3 balls that are different than the 5 balls in 1.
          3. 1 WB will come from 4 balls that are different from 5 balls in 1. and 3 balls in 2.
          4. I have no clue what the other 2 WBs will be or the PB.

          How much have I improved my overall odds with this information?

          If I have improved my odds, what is the best betting strategy to make use of this information (i.e how many lines to play) if my goal is to win 5+0, and not lesser payouts?

          Jimmy

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            Posted: January 12, 2010, 2:04 pm - IP Logged

            With all these theories of how to improve your odds and beat the lotteries, someone is going to have win a lottery jackpot to have any credibility and probably once they've done that they won't interested discussing any theory about improving the odds and beating a lottery.

             * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
               
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              Posted: January 12, 2010, 6:43 pm - IP Logged

              Thsoe who talk about winning the most have won the least.

              Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

              Lep

              There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.