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TTT- an old one but still plenty of hits amonth

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Posted: August 20, 2010, 5:51 pm - IP Logged

This ttt can be done for any state. if you go to my first post on this thread you will see how it is done. I only post the ttt for  NY. I suggest that you try the last numbers of the month and the first and do some back testing, to see the results for your state, then just pick your fav. numbers and play them.

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    Posted: August 20, 2010, 8:11 pm - IP Logged

    This ttt can be done for any state. if you go to my first post on this thread you will see how it is done. I only post the ttt for  NY. I suggest that you try the last numbers of the month and the first and do some back testing, to see the results for your state, then just pick your fav. numbers and play them.

    twedk

    What?

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      Posted: August 20, 2010, 10:08 pm - IP Logged

      What?

      Well, I tried on your behalf...sorry.

      People will not post a complete system if they don't want to.  That appears to be the case here.

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        Well, I tried on your behalf...sorry.

        People will not post a complete system if they don't want to.  That appears to be the case here.

        i posted the full system... read the first page of this thread...if you have any questions let me know

        twedk
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          i posted the full system... read the first page of this thread...if you have any questions let me know

          Pretend I have never seen any TTT.  Start with number 1.  and go through the rules.  And include everything that you do, like for instance, if you don't play every combination that you show - exactly how do you eliminatate some of them?

          Tell me everything there is to know about your way of playing a TTT.  So, if you do one for NY and I do the same one for NY, I end up with the same numbers you do.

          On the first page you show:

          835 - jan first midday

          here is jan1st evening

          930

          Here is what I copied from the NY State Lottery website - numbers game

           01/01/2010 Evening78217
           01/01/2010 Mid-day91313

          Something is obviously wrong?

          Even when I added the numbers you showed for Jan, midday, it came out different than what you showed.

          835 + (total) 956 = 781 (lottery math) not 681.

           

          So could you make a new example?  And then the most important part is to describe in detail what you mean by work the corners, and inside and outside corners, and all ttt?  As well as your elimination rules to reduce the amount of numbers you play.  Like I mentioned, if you do one for NY and I do the same one for NY, I want to end up with the same numbers you do after eliminations. 

          Thanks.

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            Posted: August 21, 2010, 7:54 pm - IP Logged

            here it is again...

            298 - july 31,2010 midday

            110

            011

            319

            ----

            298 - org number

            319 - sum from above- now add these two using lottery math

            507- this is now one of your ttt's for the month

             

            ---- you can do the same with the evening number from the last day in july. I have found i like the last number from the previous month for NY more, you neeed to back test for your state. if you want me to do your work work for your state then post the last numbers of the month

            twedk

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              here it is again...

              298 - july 31,2010 midday

              110

              011

              319

              ----

              298 - org number

              319 - sum from above- now add these two using lottery math

              507- this is now one of your ttt's for the month

               

              ---- you can do the same with the evening number from the last day in july. I have found i like the last number from the previous month for NY more, you neeed to back test for your state. if you want me to do your work work for your state then post the last numbers of the month

              twedk

              twedk,

              Let's Leave the question of how you will later select a subset of the numbers you construct from the nine digits in the TTT unanswered for the time being.

              What is the rationale for using digit-wise mod-10 addition of 110 and 011 to the previous month's last draw?  You could write a small computer program to calcualte the TTTs for each of the 1000 numbers [000-999] and publish them in a small book.  The 3 rows, 3 columns, and 2 diagonals produce eight 3 digit numbers.  If you use all of their reversals as well you have 16 numbers to play.  I think an easy to read format would be about 20 entries to a page for a total of 50 pages.  Starting with 298 above...

              298  319  507  235  910  897  217  815  892  913  705  532  019  798  712  518

              299  310  509  235  910  909  219  915  992  013  905  532  019  909  912  519

              .. and so on 

              But, wait a minute!  Unless the science behind the addition of those two numbers 110 and 011 is REALLY powerful stuff, I suspect your hit rate on EACH of the 16 numbers is going to be close to 1 hit per 1000 draws, for a total of 16 hits per 1000 draws.  If this is applied to my 11,572 day PA database, I think the result will approximate the 11.6 hits per ticket purchased per day or a total of 186 $500 wins over the 33+ years for $93,000 in winnings.  Unfortunately, during that time, you would have purchased about 185,152 (16 X 11572) $1 tickets, spending $185,152.  This doesn't seem like a very sustainable investment strategy to me!

              So, now you see why I'm VERY curious about how you came up with those 2 numbers, 110 and 011.  They have to SOMEHOW at least DOUBLE the performance of 16 QPs, to just break even.  Using one 3 digit number drawn on July 31st to predict all of the draws for August is a pretty aggressive strategy!

              --Jimmy4164

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                Posted: August 21, 2010, 11:24 pm - IP Logged

                here it is again...

                298 - july 31,2010 midday

                110

                011

                319

                ----

                298 - org number

                319 - sum from above- now add these two using lottery math

                507- this is now one of your ttt's for the month

                 

                ---- you can do the same with the evening number from the last day in july. I have found i like the last number from the previous month for NY more, you neeed to back test for your state. if you want me to do your work work for your state then post the last numbers of the month

                twedk

                Thanks twedk


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                  twedk,

                  Let's Leave the question of how you will later select a subset of the numbers you construct from the nine digits in the TTT unanswered for the time being.

                  What is the rationale for using digit-wise mod-10 addition of 110 and 011 to the previous month's last draw?  You could write a small computer program to calcualte the TTTs for each of the 1000 numbers [000-999] and publish them in a small book.  The 3 rows, 3 columns, and 2 diagonals produce eight 3 digit numbers.  If you use all of their reversals as well you have 16 numbers to play.  I think an easy to read format would be about 20 entries to a page for a total of 50 pages.  Starting with 298 above...

                  298  319  507  235  910  897  217  815  892  913  705  532  019  798  712  518

                  299  310  509  235  910  909  219  915  992  013  905  532  019  909  912  519

                  .. and so on 

                  But, wait a minute!  Unless the science behind the addition of those two numbers 110 and 011 is REALLY powerful stuff, I suspect your hit rate on EACH of the 16 numbers is going to be close to 1 hit per 1000 draws, for a total of 16 hits per 1000 draws.  If this is applied to my 11,572 day PA database, I think the result will approximate the 11.6 hits per ticket purchased per day or a total of 186 $500 wins over the 33+ years for $93,000 in winnings.  Unfortunately, during that time, you would have purchased about 185,152 (16 X 11572) $1 tickets, spending $185,152.  This doesn't seem like a very sustainable investment strategy to me!

                  So, now you see why I'm VERY curious about how you came up with those 2 numbers, 110 and 011.  They have to SOMEHOW at least DOUBLE the performance of 16 QPs, to just break even.  Using one 3 digit number drawn on July 31st to predict all of the draws for August is a pretty aggressive strategy!

                  --Jimmy4164

                  twedk,

                  (Anyone with an opinion on this is invited to join in.)

                  Your original description of this TTT involves more combinations of the numbers in the 3 X 3 example matrix above, but I believe the 16 numbers I calculated are among them.  Correct?  Additionally, you also mention that you subsequently filter this superset and reduce it to a betting set, with methods not yet explained.

                  I would like to hypothesize that, based on your description thus far, these 16 numbers generated each month by your algorythm will have a probability of being winners that exceeds the expected {1:1000}.  I understand that these 16 numbers are not the precise set the comprehensive system would end up with.  This hypothesis merely assumes that because of how they were calculated,  they will be better bets, as a group, than QPs.

                  Is this a valid Hypothesis?  Anyone?

                  If this is NOT a valid hypothesis, please tell me WHY, and HOW I can change it to make it valid.

                  I don't wish to invest the time it will take to write the program, just to have the results rejected out of hand.

                  --Jimmy4164

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                    Posted: August 23, 2010, 4:48 pm - IP Logged

                    AUG. TTT'S

                    -----------

                    298

                    319

                    507

                    ---------

                     

                    932

                    053

                    985

                    ---------

                    hits this month for ny

                    501,899,955,958

                    -------

                    8/19- 199

                    8/20 - 987

                    8/23 - 907

                    twedk
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                      I may be wrong but 835 

                                                      956

                                            =781.  

                       

                      where did the 981 come from?

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                        New Mexico only has one pick 3 draw a day.  So, using your system I use 009 which hit on August 2 and 460 which hit on August 3rd.   Calculating 009 + 011+110 = 120.   I then add back to 009 and come up with 129.   For the August 3rd draw i calculate 460 = 011=110 = 581.  

                         

                        129

                        460

                        581

                         

                        Is this correct???  Can anyone else reading this post verify this?

                         

                        Thinking of...


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                          here it is again...

                          298 - july 31,2010 midday

                          110

                          011

                          319

                          ----

                          298 - org number

                          319 - sum from above- now add these two using lottery math

                          507- this is now one of your ttt's for the month

                           

                          ---- you can do the same with the evening number from the last day in july. I have found i like the last number from the previous month for NY more, you neeed to back test for your state. if you want me to do your work work for your state then post the last numbers of the month

                          twedk

                          twedk,

                          This should make my questions easier to answer.

                          Let's PRETEND that 0-0-0 hit on July 31, 2010.

                          Using your formula above, this would result in:

                          000 - july 31, 2010

                          110

                          011

                          121

                          ----

                          000 - org number

                          121 - sum from above - now add these two using lottery math

                          121 - this is now one of your TTT's for the month of August.

                           

                          Assuming there is only one draw per day in the hypothetical state, what would the full set of candidates be for betting in August, before filtering any of them out for discard?

                          --Jimmy4164

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                            twedk,

                            This should make my questions easier to answer.

                            Let's PRETEND that 0-0-0 hit on July 31, 2010.

                            Using your formula above, this would result in:

                            000 - july 31, 2010

                            110

                            011

                            121

                            ----

                            000 - org number

                            121 - sum from above - now add these two using lottery math

                            121 - this is now one of your TTT's for the month of August.

                             

                            Assuming there is only one draw per day in the hypothetical state, what would the full set of candidates be for betting in August, before filtering any of them out for discard?

                            --Jimmy4164

                            That is the correct ttt for that number and State,

                            the numbers to play , 000,121,011,021,022,122,

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                              AUG. TTT'S

                              -----------

                              298

                              319

                              507

                              ---------

                               

                              932

                              053

                              985

                              ---------

                              hits this month for ny

                              501,899,955,958

                              -------

                              8/19- 199

                              8/20 - 987

                              8/23 - 907

                              8/28 - 709

                               

                              twedk
                                 
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