Long Island , NY United States Member #70666 February 8, 2009 1104 Posts Offline

Posted: August 20, 2010, 5:51 pm - IP Logged

This ttt can be done for any state. if you go to my first post on this thread you will see how it is done. I only post the ttt for NY. I suggest that you try the last numbers of the month and the first and do some back testing, to see the results for your state, then just pick your fav. numbers and play them.

United States Member #93947 July 10, 2010 2180 Posts Offline

Posted: August 20, 2010, 8:11 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by twedk on August 20, 2010

This ttt can be done for any state. if you go to my first post on this thread you will see how it is done. I only post the ttt for NY. I suggest that you try the last numbers of the month and the first and do some back testing, to see the results for your state, then just pick your fav. numbers and play them.

Michigan United States Member #22395 September 24, 2005 1583 Posts Offline

Posted: August 21, 2010, 2:10 am - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by twedk on August 20, 2010

i posted the full system... read the first page of this thread...if you have any questions let me know

Pretend I have never seen any TTT. Start with number 1. and go through the rules. And include everything that you do, like for instance, if you don't play every combination that you show - exactly how do you eliminatate some of them?

Tell me everything there is to know about your way of playing a TTT. So, if you do one for NY and I do the same one for NY, I end up with the same numbers you do.

On the first page you show:

835 - jan first midday

here is jan1st evening

930

Here is what I copied from the NY State Lottery website - numbers game

Even when I added the numbers you showed for Jan, midday, it came out different than what you showed.

835 + (total) 956 = 781 (lottery math) not 681.

So could you make a new example? And then the most important part is to describe in detail what you mean by work the corners, and inside and outside corners, and all ttt?As well as your elimination rules to reduce the amount of numbers you play. Like I mentioned, if you do one for NY and I do the same one for NY, I want to end up with the same numbers you do after eliminations.

Long Island , NY United States Member #70666 February 8, 2009 1104 Posts Offline

Posted: August 21, 2010, 7:54 pm - IP Logged

here it is again...

298 - july 31,2010 midday

110

011

319

----

298 - org number

319 - sum from above- now add these two using lottery math

507- this is now one of your ttt's for the month

---- you can do the same with the evening number from the last day in july. I have found i like the last number from the previous month for NY more, you neeed to back test for your state. if you want me to do your work work for your state then post the last numbers of the month

United States Member #93947 July 10, 2010 2180 Posts Offline

Posted: August 21, 2010, 11:17 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by twedk on August 21, 2010

here it is again...

298 - july 31,2010 midday

110

011

319

----

298 - org number

319 - sum from above- now add these two using lottery math

507- this is now one of your ttt's for the month

---- you can do the same with the evening number from the last day in july. I have found i like the last number from the previous month for NY more, you neeed to back test for your state. if you want me to do your work work for your state then post the last numbers of the month

twedk

twedk,

Let's Leave the question of how you will later select a subset of the numbers you construct from the nine digits in the TTT unanswered for the time being.

What is the rationale for using digit-wise mod-10 addition of 110 and 011 to the previous month's last draw? You could write a small computer program to calcualte the TTTs for each of the 1000 numbers [000-999] and publish them in a small book. The 3 rows, 3 columns, and 2 diagonals produce eight 3 digit numbers. If you use all of their reversals as well you have 16 numbers to play. I think an easy to read format would be about 20 entries to a page for a total of 50 pages. Starting with 298 above...

But, wait a minute! Unless the science behind the addition of those two numbers 110 and 011 is REALLY powerful stuff, I suspect your hit rate on EACH of the 16 numbers is going to be close to 1 hit per 1000 draws, for a total of 16 hits per 1000 draws. If this is applied to my 11,572 day PA database, I think the result will approximate the 11.6 hits per ticket purchased per day or a total of 186 $500 wins over the 33+ years for $93,000 in winnings. Unfortunately, during that time, you would have purchased about 185,152 (16 X 11572) $1 tickets, spending $185,152. This doesn't seem like a very sustainable investment strategy to me!

So, now you see why I'm VERY curious about how you came up with those 2 numbers, 110 and 011. They have to SOMEHOW at least DOUBLE the performance of 16 QPs, to just break even. Using one 3 digit number drawn on July 31st to predict all of the draws for August is a pretty aggressive strategy!

Michigan United States Member #22395 September 24, 2005 1583 Posts Offline

Posted: August 21, 2010, 11:24 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by twedk on August 21, 2010

here it is again...

298 - july 31,2010 midday

110

011

319

----

298 - org number

319 - sum from above- now add these two using lottery math

507- this is now one of your ttt's for the month

---- you can do the same with the evening number from the last day in july. I have found i like the last number from the previous month for NY more, you neeed to back test for your state. if you want me to do your work work for your state then post the last numbers of the month

United States Member #93947 July 10, 2010 2180 Posts Offline

Posted: August 22, 2010, 2:51 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by jimmy4164 on August 21, 2010

twedk,

Let's Leave the question of how you will later select a subset of the numbers you construct from the nine digits in the TTT unanswered for the time being.

What is the rationale for using digit-wise mod-10 addition of 110 and 011 to the previous month's last draw? You could write a small computer program to calcualte the TTTs for each of the 1000 numbers [000-999] and publish them in a small book. The 3 rows, 3 columns, and 2 diagonals produce eight 3 digit numbers. If you use all of their reversals as well you have 16 numbers to play. I think an easy to read format would be about 20 entries to a page for a total of 50 pages. Starting with 298 above...

But, wait a minute! Unless the science behind the addition of those two numbers 110 and 011 is REALLY powerful stuff, I suspect your hit rate on EACH of the 16 numbers is going to be close to 1 hit per 1000 draws, for a total of 16 hits per 1000 draws. If this is applied to my 11,572 day PA database, I think the result will approximate the 11.6 hits per ticket purchased per day or a total of 186 $500 wins over the 33+ years for $93,000 in winnings. Unfortunately, during that time, you would have purchased about 185,152 (16 X 11572) $1 tickets, spending $185,152. This doesn't seem like a very sustainable investment strategy to me!

So, now you see why I'm VERY curious about how you came up with those 2 numbers, 110 and 011. They have to SOMEHOW at least DOUBLE the performance of 16 QPs, to just break even. Using one 3 digit number drawn on July 31st to predict all of the draws for August is a pretty aggressive strategy!

--Jimmy4164

twedk,

(Anyone with an opinion on this is invited to join in.)

Your original description of this TTT involves more combinations of the numbers in the 3 X 3 example matrix above, but I believe the 16 numbers I calculated are among them. Correct? Additionally, you also mention that you subsequently filter this superset and reduce it to a betting set, with methods not yet explained.

I would like to hypothesize that, based on your description thus far, these 16 numbers generated each month by your algorythm will have a probability of being winners that exceeds the expected {1:1000}. I understand that these 16 numbers are not the precise set the comprehensive system would end up with. This hypothesis merely assumes that because of how they were calculated, they will be better bets, as a group, than QPs.

Is this a valid Hypothesis? Anyone?

If this is NOT a valid hypothesis, please tell me WHY, and HOW I can change it to make it valid.

I don't wish to invest the time it will take to write the program, just to have the results rejected out of hand.

New Mexico United States Member #86099 January 29, 2010 11116 Posts Offline

Posted: August 26, 2010, 4:46 pm - IP Logged

New Mexico only has one pick 3 draw a day. So, using your system I use 009 which hit on August 2 and 460 which hit on August 3rd. Calculating 009 + 011+110 = 120. I then add back to 009 and come up with 129. For the August 3rd draw i calculate 460 = 011=110 = 581.

129

460

581

Is this correct??? Can anyone else reading this post verify this?

United States Member #93947 July 10, 2010 2180 Posts Offline

Posted: August 26, 2010, 11:58 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by twedk on August 21, 2010

here it is again...

298 - july 31,2010 midday

110

011

319

----

298 - org number

319 - sum from above- now add these two using lottery math

507- this is now one of your ttt's for the month

---- you can do the same with the evening number from the last day in july. I have found i like the last number from the previous month for NY more, you neeed to back test for your state. if you want me to do your work work for your state then post the last numbers of the month

twedk

twedk,

This should make my questions easier to answer.

Let's PRETEND that 0-0-0 hit on July 31, 2010.

Using your formula above, this would result in:

000 - july 31, 2010

110

011

121

----

000 - org number

121 - sum from above - now add these two using lottery math

121 - this is now one of your TTT's for the month of August.

Assuming there is only one draw per day in the hypothetical state, what would the full set of candidates be for betting in August, before filtering any of them out for discard?

Long Island , NY United States Member #70666 February 8, 2009 1104 Posts Offline

Posted: August 29, 2010, 10:30 am - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by jimmy4164 on August 26, 2010

twedk,

This should make my questions easier to answer.

Let's PRETEND that 0-0-0 hit on July 31, 2010.

Using your formula above, this would result in:

000 - july 31, 2010

110

011

121

----

000 - org number

121 - sum from above - now add these two using lottery math

121 - this is now one of your TTT's for the month of August.

Assuming there is only one draw per day in the hypothetical state, what would the full set of candidates be for betting in August, before filtering any of them out for discard?

--Jimmy4164

That is the correct ttt for that number and State,