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TTT- an old one but still plenty of hits amonth

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TTT Backtest !

This is a Preliminary Report on a TRIAL RUN of a Backtest of twedk's TTT system.

http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/218174/1767521

Please take a look and help me ensure it is correct...

TTT Players,

Well, since noone has objected to my test proposal in over 48 hours, I guess we can assume it is accepted by all concerned.

Here is the Full Report:

http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/218174/1769889

---Jimmy4164

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    Hello,

    I am still trying to learn and figure this system out, have you worked out any sept ttt's for Va? if so I would sure appreciate them and I will study them so I can further my understanding- thanks.

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      TTT - Back tested over 33 years - doesn't appear to be a winning system.  Has anyone got any rules to change it into a winning system?

      Amount won on Straight Bets @$1 each:  $81,000.00
      Amount Bet:                           $169,681.00

      Total Lost:                          -$ 88,681.00   

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        TTT - Back tested over 33 years - doesn't appear to be a winning system.  Has anyone got any rules to change it into a winning system?

        Amount won on Straight Bets @$1 each:  $81,000.00
        Amount Bet:                           $169,681.00

        Total Lost:                          -$ 88,681.00   

        Going back 33 years and knowing what will happen up to now should allow one to develop some rules that would show a profit over the years up to now.  Two problems: the system may not look anything like TTT and there's no guarantee that it would continue showing a profit in the future.

         * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
           
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          Going back 33 years and knowing what will happen up to now should allow one to develop some rules that would show a profit over the years up to now.  Two problems: the system may not look anything like TTT and there's no guarantee that it would continue showing a profit in the future.

          Yeah, that's the showstopper.  Fully agree.  Never know if it will work in the future!


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            Well last month in Florida it had 19 hits.

             

              I guess if you rely on it every single day you'll lose a lot also

            but it helps in narrowing down my picks.

             

             

            Pete


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              Hello,

              I am still trying to learn and figure this system out, have you worked out any sept ttt's for Va? if so I would sure appreciate them and I will study them so I can further my understanding- thanks.

              Bw4U

               

               Only had 2 hits so far for Sept in Va

               

                 645     326

                 524     206

                 169     522

              Keep tracking it...

               

              Pete

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                Well last month in Florida it had 19 hits.

                 

                  I guess if you rely on it every single day you'll lose a lot also

                but it helps in narrowing down my picks.

                 

                 

                Pete

                If those were all straight hits for which you bought tickets, THAT IS VERY GOOD!  Congrats!Dance

                If you didn't actually buy tickets, in all fairness, a TTT contains a lot of possible combinations.  In that case, you shouldn't count the 19 possibles.   If you want to share your rules for reducing 84 possibles to the number of tickets you actually buy - I'd like to know.  If it is your secret, that is OK too.

                If the 19 were all box hits, it still sounds above average?  I went through the entire thread of twedk's - this figure may not be exact because of the way she reports hits.  From Jan to Aug for NY, 61 hits.  7.26 hits per month for what appears to be 10 numbers played per day.


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                  If those were all straight hits for which you bought tickets, THAT IS VERY GOOD!  Congrats!Dance

                  If you didn't actually buy tickets, in all fairness, a TTT contains a lot of possible combinations.  In that case, you shouldn't count the 19 possibles.   If you want to share your rules for reducing 84 possibles to the number of tickets you actually buy - I'd like to know.  If it is your secret, that is OK too.

                  If the 19 were all box hits, it still sounds above average?  I went through the entire thread of twedk's - this figure may not be exact because of the way she reports hits.  From Jan to Aug for NY, 61 hits.  7.26 hits per month for what appears to be 10 numbers played per day.

                  True,

                   No I didn't play any of those.  I was merely backtesting. I am new to these forums

                  but while backtesting I thought this was a good starting point to pick numbers from

                  instead of just picking blindly from my head.

                    I don't think there are 84 possibilties with a TTT is ther?  For instance:

                  563

                  297

                  364

                   In this TTT you would have:

                  Horizontal- 563,297,364

                  Vertical- 523,696,374

                  Diagonal- 594,393

                  Upper right corner- 637,369,697

                  Upper Left corner- 652,569,692

                  Lower right corner- 974,796,964

                  Lower left corner- 296,923,236

                   

                  That comes out to 20 possibilities. Of course you would use other ideas/systems to further narrow those 20

                  down to a managable size.

                   I don't know...  It just makes it easier for me to come up with some numbers to play'

                   

                  Pete

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                    True,

                     No I didn't play any of those.  I was merely backtesting. I am new to these forums

                    but while backtesting I thought this was a good starting point to pick numbers from

                    instead of just picking blindly from my head.

                      I don't think there are 84 possibilties with a TTT is ther?  For instance:

                    563

                    297

                    364

                     In this TTT you would have:

                    Horizontal- 563,297,364

                    Vertical- 523,696,374

                    Diagonal- 594,393

                    Upper right corner- 637,369,697

                    Upper Left corner- 652,569,692

                    Lower right corner- 974,796,964

                    Lower left corner- 296,923,236

                     

                    That comes out to 20 possibilities. Of course you would use other ideas/systems to further narrow those 20

                    down to a managable size.

                     I don't know...  It just makes it easier for me to come up with some numbers to play'

                     

                    Pete

                    Quote:  "I don't think there are 84 possibilties with a TTT is ther?"

                    Pick 3 Tic Tac Toe Formulas - Which Works Best for you ? - Lottery Post Forums:
                    http://www.lotterypost.com/topic/217958

                    TTT (Tic Tac Toe) Excel Sheet - Lottery Post Forums:
                    http://www.lotterypost.com/topic/184677

                    Hope those help to give you more ideas.  You can search for many other TTT threads.

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                      Bw4U

                       

                       Only had 2 hits so far for Sept in Va

                       

                         645     326

                         524     206

                         169     522

                      Keep tracking it...

                       

                      Pete

                      been bactesting VA nos:

                      my totals are diff:

                      524                    602

                      645                    723

                      169                    325

                      i am showing 270,372, and 569 as hits for this month...did i do "bad Math?


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                        been bactesting VA nos:

                        my totals are diff:

                        524                    602

                        645                    723

                        169                    325

                        i am showing 270,372, and 569 as hits for this month...did i do "bad Math?

                        I got the wrong numbers too.

                        The first two draws of the month were:

                        206 and 524 correct?


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                          TTT Players,

                          Well, since noone has objected to my test proposal in over 48 hours, I guess we can assume it is accepted by all concerned.

                          Here is the Full Report:

                          http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/218174/1769889

                          ---Jimmy4164

                          All TTT Players,

                          In the quoted post above you can review the result of using the last day of the previous month to calculate the TTT set of up to 16 numbers for 1 month's play.  The result of that approach was approximately a 52% loss over the entire 33.5 years of the test.  I hope those who have been claiming these backtests are worthless because noone would play the same numbers for 33 years are awake enough now to note that this TTT system changes the betting set every month.

                          However, since those who believe this backtesting is useless are apparently concerned about the frequency of changing bets, I decided to run this TTT over the data with a few variations on the original theme, just to see what would have happened.  It was actually quite easy to change the program to re-calculate the TTT and the betting set EVERY DRAW.  I can also look back as many draws as I want to get the previous winner for the TTT calculation.  If there is any rationale for the system, perhaps it will do better when using a winning number from a recent drawing, rather than arbitrarily sticking with the last day of the previous month.

                          These are the recaps of 7 different runs:

                          TTT Calculation        # of Hits      # Tickets       LOSS

                          Last day Previous Mo.        162                 169,681        $88,681

                          1 Draw Previous                 186                 171,426        $78,426

                          2 Draws Previous               184                 171,000        $79,000

                          3 Draws Previous               187                 171,250        $77,750

                          7 Draws Previous               160                 170,319        $90,319

                          30 Draws Previous             182                 169,658        $78,658

                          99 Draws Previous             177                 168,841        $80,341

                          The details of 3 of the runs are here:

                          http://www.box.net/shared/2txuiqlb3n       // One Draw Previous

                          http://www.box.net/shared/228veb2s73    // Three Draws Previous

                          http://www.box.net/shared/g6dfqe07la     //  Thirty Draws Previous

                           

                          I didn't upload all of them as it's really not necessary to see any more

                          than this to be convinced that this TTT is a Random Number Generator!

                          If you would like to see the results of choosing a particular LookBack period

                          for this TTT calculation, POST HERE NOW!  I will make the run and post the

                          summary AND the details for the FIRST REASONABLE REQUEST!

                          --Jimmy4164

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                            Posted: September 13, 2010, 6:58 pm - IP Logged

                            Well last month in Florida it had 19 hits.

                             

                              I guess if you rely on it every single day you'll lose a lot also

                            but it helps in narrowing down my picks.

                             

                             

                            Pete

                            "Well last month in Florida it had 19 hits."

                            But, but, but that is huge discrepancy when we have a guy claiming he accurately tested the same TTT you're using in Florida over 33.5 years (402 months) worth of drawings in PA and only had 162 hits. With only averaging one hit in 40% of the months, isn't it highly unlikely that any other state could possibly show even 4 or 5 hits a month?

                            I worked with people that showed me where their TTTs produced several hits a month, but I too was skeptical of how they could use it to turn a profit. A TTT using 7 digits has 343 possible three digit straight numbers and they couldn't make much of a profit by playing them all every day even if they could afford the cost of play. They had various ways of picking their combos, most of them only played 2 or 3 combos a drawing, and some of them did catch some hits.

                            The fact is, our statistician doesn't know how players like you use their TTTs or how they play the their numbers. If people are having fun making their TTTs, spending a couple of bucks, and catching a hit once in a while, they certainly don't need any useless information about how much they would lose playing the same way for an incredible 33.5 years.

                            *402, 162, and 343 might make an interesting TTT.

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                              new york

                              TTT'S

                              ---------------

                              385

                              406

                              781

                              ---------------------------------------

                              539

                              650

                              189

                              ------------------

                              HITS

                              9/2/10 - 075

                              9/3/10 - 384

                              9/6/10 - 570

                              9/9/10 - 095

                              9/10/10 -718

                              9/11/10 - 805

                                 9/12/10 - 305     

                              twedk
                                 
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