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Is posting that you're going to win a jinx?

I think so, that's why I don't do it [ 5 ]  [14.71%]
92,249 members and it hasn't worked yet! [ 5 ]  [14.71%]
Same as announcing a pitcher has a no hitter going [ 2 ]  [5.88%]
Jinx, doorknob [ 2 ]  [5.88%]
I do it to make it happen [ 5 ]  [14.71%]
I say it and other people win, dang [ 5 ]  [14.71%]
It's my hukka. [ 0 ]  [0.00%]
The voices tell me to [ 2 ]  [5.88%]
My supervisor at the lotto tells me to [ 1 ]  [2.94%]
Other [ 7 ]  [20.59%]
Total Valid Votes [ 34 ]  
Discarded Votes [ 4 ]  
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Posted: June 3, 2010, 9:57 pm - IP Logged

Sometimes I think I'm a jinx.

I came to the University of Georgia in the fall of 2008, when Georgia had the #1 football team. Since, they fell out of the rankings. Georgia baseball had a similar fate since I have come here. I believe they were #1 at the start of the spring of 2009, and now they were in last place of the conference this season. 

When I went to the College of William and Mary in the fall of 2004, William and Mary had a good football team. Then, they slumped for three years, and this past fall, after I graduated, they made it to the FCS quarterfinals. Maybe my presence at a school makes their football team turn bad.

Also, the one time I would have won $500 playing the Pick-3 was the one time I forgot to play.

There was a movie about a guy like you. I think it was called "The Cooler" or something like that.

It was about a guy who worked for a casino who the management would send out to give bad luck to people who were winning too much at the tables.

He would just go sit next to them and they would start losing. Good movie.


                                             
                     
                                         

 

 

 

 

                                                                                                   

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                            --Edmund Burke

 

 

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    Posted: June 4, 2010, 12:05 am - IP Logged

    Sometimes I do it to make it happen because it has a few times...yesterday at the midday drawing I was one off of the p3 number so I said I was going to an internet sweepstakes place and win & that is exactly what I did...I won $200 & spent $20 doing it!

    WTG--It's called positive thinking and you took matters into your own hands and made it happen--please pass that good winning lottery karma to me!!Wink I CAN CERTAINLY USE IT RIGHT NOW!!

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      There was a movie about a guy like you. I think it was called "The Cooler" or something like that.

      It was about a guy who worked for a casino who the management would send out to give bad luck to people who were winning too much at the tables.

      He would just go sit next to them and they would start losing. Good movie.

      Raven62,

      Excellent post before, excellent points.

      rdgrnr,

      We had a bartender in one of the places I worked that had absolutely horrible luck. His name was Lenny, "Lucky" Lenny (yeah, right) and "Lenny the Loser". Employees could play in this casino and he had a whole repetoire he went through.....make his bets, watch the dice, and then : "Twenty years in this place and I can't win a bet! It's a nightmare, a nightmare."

      His bad luck really was horrednous if he bet the inside the dice went 4,5,9,10, 7-Out. If he bet the outisde it was 6, 8,  7-Out, all the time.

      Well, his luck was so bad that when someone would get a monster roll going they shift boss would page, "Lenny report to the dice pit" and ask him to just look at or touch the table the hand was being rolled on.

      7-Out, thanks Lenny.

      It actually got to the point that when regular players saw him coming they'd take their bets down.

      Off the game he was a really nice guy, but on the game it was almost impossible not to burst out laughing when he went into "Nightmare" mode.

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      Sounds of Silence

      Lotto Jinx version

      Hello jackpot my old friend

      I've come to jinx myself again

      Telling everyone I'm gonna win

      'til the drawing then I'm bummed again

      but the next draw I'll be right back telling everyone it's mine again

      and they'll take me away one day

      but whne I get to the funny farm guess what I'll say.....

      Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

      Lep

      There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.


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        Posted: June 4, 2010, 1:28 am - IP Logged

        Other.

        If you play the game and expect to lose you will. Lenny just had something special going on and that is another topic.

        A winner synchronizes his mental conversation with a winning image of himself and action. No different than a ball player sinking a free shot. If someone wants to play against bad odds and try to win on an average, he better have a way to turn the tables on the house. The house also believes in luck or ‘the fundamental superstition’. Using Lenny is an example. This winning aspect is more defined in a game of skill than of chance. You have to be in your best frame of mind for the competition and in a Casino you will see dealers being swapped out to beat a winner for that very reason. Just like putting a new pitcher on the mound . It screws with the opposing team.

        A true winner does not adhere to superstitions, no matter how convincing they may appear.

        A true winner will speak of themselves in a positive way.

        A true winner may appear <snip>y or bragging but they are in the game for a win. It is the principal and law of believing.

        It takes different believing for someone to get across town without a car than for someone with one.

        If you did not have a car suddenly, would you have to correct your frame of mind to get across town? Yes you would. It might take more mental effort. Both travelers use believing in many stages to get to where they want to be. If you lost a hand, would you not have to rethink your actions for what you take for granted now? Yes you would! If rdgrnr lost both his hands, he could not hold his liquior(sp).

        The funny thing about believing is it works both ways. You can have good results or bad ones based on your frame of mind, how you speak of yourself and your mental image of yourself. Action is essential and daydreaming does not work.

        There is much about believing that all apply without thought. They know the results they will have based on a thought of action and take it for granted. Believing for one thing is no different than believing for another ‘big thing’. At one point, driving was a task, but now it is comfortable through successful experience.

        Anyone who plays the game has odds to beat. A healthy frame of mind to win and a winning attitude works in the Casino and in every aspect of life. No team wants a player who says, "I can get it up, I just can't get it in".

        The "I can do" is the voice of a winner, even when he loses.

        DD

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          Posted: June 4, 2010, 1:58 am - IP Logged

          Good post DD!

          OOPS, that's me!

          More,….

          A winner is prepared for the win in every conceivable way he or she can be.

          Example:

          One LP member has a LP hat and shirt on hand for when he wins a particular game. He most likely has worn it in front of a mirror and envisioned himself accepting a jackpot check in the photo that will be taken.

          How prepared are you to win? Are you daydreaming about it or are you prepared to win? Do you have an attorney selected? Do you know the process of your obligations and how you will handle them? Will you have a trust established? How will you approach your tax obligations in the future? Will you invest? Will you retire? Will you travel? Will you move? Will you gift?

          It is not superstition, it is believing action – no different than someone expecting the engine to start when they turn the key in the ignition! It just seems like it is a ‘big thing’ to win a game VS starting the car. It is to the degree you allow it to be in your mind.

          "Chance favors the prepared mind."  Louis Pasteur

          DD

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            Posted: June 4, 2010, 2:08 am - IP Logged

            Delta Draw,

            There are people that are lucky - "born under the right star", and people that are unlucky, that's all there is to it.

            Then there are people who blow fortunes trying to convince themself they are lucky.

            And as they say, Lady Luck ain't no lady.

            Everyone in the gambling business, from Bingo to casinos to lotteries know that they are also in the ego business.

            They also now that the bigger an ego a person has the more money they are willing to part with to "prove" they can beat a game.

            Just things to think about.

            Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

            Lep

            There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.


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              Delta Draw,

              There are people that are lucky - "born under the right star", and people that are unlucky, that's all there is to it.

              Then there are people who blow fortunes trying to convince themself they are lucky.

              And as they say, Lady Luck ain't no lady.

              Everyone in the gambling business, from Bingo to casinos to lotteries know that they are also in the ego business.

              They also now that the bigger an ego a person has the more money they are willing to part with to "prove" they can beat a game.

              Just things to think about.

              Very well.

              I accept that what you believe is a fact to you and the ‘industry’. You have experience in casinos and your observations and what you have learned is convincing to you, but that does not make it a hard and fast rule or law. You fail to understand that believing is what makes people appear lucky or unlucky, that’s all.

              Believing is a law like gravity. It’s sucks when you got it upside, but Newton defined gravity. A greater source defined believing and if you don’t get it, that’s OK. Your believing limits your success.

              Snooze wisely!

              "They could be made to accept the most flagrant violations of reality ...and were not sufficiently interested in public events to notice what was happening.  All that was required of them was primitive patriotism." Eric A. Blair

              DD

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                Tell you what, DD. We had a guy hanging out in our asino that had it all figured out. He too was of the chool of poisitive thinking and would tell us how a person with the right frame of mind could really makde it in Vegas.

                As time went on, what he was doing was kind of a check kiting scheme but with markers. He'd take a marker out in one caino to pay one off in another. got it on for awhile, too. What he didn't realize was these casino bosses knew each other.

                A couple of conversations and they realized how many joints he owed.

                Well we were leaving work one night, and there he sat in the cab he was now driving.

                Another Vegas success story.

                There's nothing wrong with all this frame of mind stuff, but a person just can't let it blind him to reality (Well, the ones that do go on the self help circuit).

                A person may beat a crap table tonight. They're in serious trouble if they thik they're going to do it every night.

                The industry considers there are only two things that can be beat, sports betting and poker. The people who are doing either for a living advise most people no to even try it.

                Anything other than seeing a lottery jackpot game as a dollar and a dream and hoping to get lucky is not straight thinking.

                Ther never has been, and never will be a jackpot winner that wasn't just plain lucky.

                Even on this board people have said they are going to win the big jackpot on a given night and when it didn't happen a thread gets started, "Oh boo hoo, boo hoo, I didn't win it, the lottery is fixed."Such is the mentality of some players. That's why I started this thread.

                Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                Lep

                There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.


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                  Popular belief but unfounded in fact: “Born under a lucky star”.

                  Pure superstition.

                   No different than the Greeks trying to define the physical world with stories. The difference is the Greeks had some fact with the fiction in their observations, but the superstition is what most recognize today. You observe an event and the best way to define it is, “It’s luck”. Lucky Stars is a breakfast cereal with Lucky the Lepracon and ‘Magical Stars’ and symbols to delight in. It makes your poop green. Lep

                  People love superstitions including the ‘industry’. It is like a Siren to many, seducing them to eventual and certain destruction.

                  No matter how popular a belief is and the number of adherents to it, there is the idea that following such a belief is healthy as one tries to understand the dynamics of this world. Most would laugh you to shame if you were pushing ‘the world is flat’ routine today, but somehow accepting another superstition is acceptable.   It is to you if you believe it, but a closer look is a wrestling match in your mind of truth VS tradition. So if you are resigned to traditional superstitions, you will never come to an understanding of why things happen and how to get it to work for you to be successful in any endeavor.

                  You are correct in being convinced of your observations, but you green poo-poo all winners as being lucky. Like it is a fact ALL should accept! Come on, you know the success winning mindset of a casino is they have the statistical advantage. House odds are the same if one ticket is sold for a game or all of them? You must believe that the same sucker luck the losers you saw is at work for you. Negative believing has results too in case you did not get that the first time around. Your world is flat.

                  DD

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                    Posted: June 4, 2010, 4:12 am - IP Logged

                    Sadly there's no way to prove whether you can or cannot jinx yourself.


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                      Sadly there's no way to prove whether you can or cannot jinx yourself.

                      Tell you what Cointoss:

                      Luck: the fateful helplessness of superstitious minds. The old ‘Will of the gods’ routine to explain the course of life. The “don’t bother to take control of your life and give up trying” loser mentality. You will not find a one of them losers playing pro sports. And there are studies to prove the successful dust themselves off and shake off a loss quickly, to achieve the win. In politics, we select the winner speak, even if they are lying between their teeth. There is a difference in talking the talk and walking the walk. Daydreamers only think about being successful. That is not believing.

                      If you resign to helplessness, you have learned it in some way. That does not make it so for another who has a different mindset; who opposes learned helplessness. Do not be offended if I or another do not see the world as you do. You are entitled to your opinions and beliefs but that does not make is so for others. If nobody likes the secrets to success and chose fate or some superstition as a doctrine, it is their free will choice. Believe what you want but my experience again and again is that believing is the fundamental thing to any event that you can envision being a part of or doing.

                      That includes walking across the room in diapers. I saw it done and everyone said I could do it. If I was taught otherwise or not at all, it would be difficult to go beyond a crawl.

                      What is a jinx? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jinx

                      Just another superstition! Sadly, Believing makes it so!

                      DD

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                        Posted: June 4, 2010, 7:10 am - IP Logged

                        There are a lot of different ways to say "I'm going to win the Jackpot!" by not saying that. Jinxing is just something we made up to validate our actions, yet in reality things happens based on the odds of such event. With 1 in xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx it's very favorable that jinxing works. Focus on that will lead to negative thoughts.

                        I like to wish everyone luck and not mention it myself not to jinx myself, but rather give someone else the positive vibe, as they would to me (although I don't expect reciprocation). I think once we understand what we're up against with, saying "I'm going to win the Jackpot" will make one sound like a newbie who has no idea. Then again, we live in a world where we have freedom of speech so anyone can really say anything.

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                          The voices man...

                          GOD is great, beer is good and people are crazy! Crazy

                          "I don't look for the numbers, the numbers look for and sometimes find me..."

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                            taxijohn,

                            You hear them to? 

                            Delta Draw,

                            If not luck, tell me how you'd describe this.

                            We had a meeting and one of the guys was really ticked off about having to come in on his day off. So he goes to the cage, picks up his toke (tips) envelope from the previous night, takes $50 out of it and plays a multi-game Keno ticket for the next 50 games, a $1 eight-spot. He played all the sixes, 6, 16, 26, 36, 46, 56 66, 76.

                            When he came back to work the next day the pit boss said, "They've been looking for you, go to the Kenop lounge."

                            He had won $50,000 on his eight spot, but what hit was 8, 18, 28, 38,48, 58, 68, 78.....the Keno writer had marked the ticket wrong, all the eights instead of all the sixes. So if you don't think that was luck, or that there is luck, what do you call it?

                            People can line up all the lawyers and financial gurus they want to, even go so far as taking mock press conference pictures, and who wins......a 19 year old girl in Georgia that's never played lotto in her life and buys a quick pick when she's paying for her gas and the clerk asks if she wants to take a shot at the Mega Millions.

                            Lep

                            Casino work, any form of gambling, entertainment, and sports are rife with good luck, bad luck, and superstitions, that's all there is to it.

                            Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                            Lep

                            There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                              Yeah, but I'm gonna win next time, no doubt about it!

                              It's a lock!

                              Go, eat your food with gladness, and drink your wine with a joyful heart, for it is now that God favors what you do. Always be clothed in white, and always anoint your head with oil. Enjoy life with your wife, whom you love, all the days of this meaningless life that God has given you under the sun-all your meaningless days. For this is your lot in life and in your toilsome labor under the sun. Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might, for in the grave, where you are going, there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom.

                              A mind once stretched by a new idea never returns to its original dimensions!