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Quote: Originally posted by PAJenn on Feb 10, 2013
I work a minute away from Edwardsville and occasionally purchase tickets there. No big winners for me there. I definitely agree about the whole $20 thing on a $1,000 winner. That's insulting. If I won $1,000, I'd give that person $100 bucks. Ten percent is generally a good rule, unless we're talking a significantly large payout.
Do you know the Frisvold's? I know that would be a small world thing. I remember asking her if he played alot and I don't think she ever answered. the About $1000 winner on the roll I stopped playing. I asked the store owner if it was a regular. He said she she use to play $100's a day and hasn't seen her as much lately. Might be selfish, but I don't mind someone hitting who spends a good amount. would have annoyed me if it was just some random guy buying this 1st ticket.
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Don’t know them, but it’d be a scary small world if I did. I don’t mind seeing someone win big if they spend a decent amount of money but it never seems to be that way. When I worked in a bank several years ago and saw people with lottery checks I couldn’t help but ask how frequently they played. Same bs all the time. “It was my first time”, “I never play”, “I haven’t played in years”. Really? Now I work as an accountant and still am always around the lottery when I have to put the person’s profits and losses on his or her return. It sounds strange, but in this profession it would be very hard for me to stop playing the lottery altogether since I see so many winning and losing tickets. So here’s my question to everyone else: Would you ever stop playing the lottery? If so, what would make you stop?
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Quote: Originally posted by PAJenn on Feb 10, 2013
Don’t know them, but it’d be a scary small world if I did. I don’t mind seeing someone win big if they spend a decent amount of money but it never seems to be that way. When I worked in a bank several years ago and saw people with lottery checks I couldn’t help but ask how frequently they played. Same bs all the time. “It was my first time”, “I never play”, “I haven’t played in years”. Really? Now I work as an accountant and still am always around the lottery when I have to put the person’s profits and losses on his or her return. It sounds strange, but in this profession it would be very hard for me to stop playing the lottery altogether since I see so many winning and losing tickets. So here’s my question to everyone else: Would you ever stop playing the lottery? If so, what would make you stop?
Can I ask you something? Being an IT guy I get questions all the time, so I hope you don't mind a quick tax question. I do my taxes online. I know on Federal I claim my $1000 and I know I can offset it. When I won at the casino a few years ago(couldnt' offset with losses), I had to also claim that for state(according to the online place). Can I offset those loses on state also? I didn't file yet and I know the place online will direct me, so i guess it was more of a curiosity. My W2-G from the lottery makes it sound like I can't.
I think I have stopped before. I know I played alot when I worked at the grocery store and I am pretty sure I stopped. If I didn't, I don't remember playing alot. Then around 4-5 years ago I started again and it seemed like I was playing waaaaayyyy too much. Probably around the time I hit on the casino and just had fun money sitting around.
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Quote: Originally posted by omiller315 on Feb 10, 2013
Can I ask you something? Being an IT guy I get questions all the time, so I hope you don't mind a quick tax question. I do my taxes online. I know on Federal I claim my $1000 and I know I can offset it. When I won at the casino a few years ago(couldnt' offset with losses), I had to also claim that for state(according to the online place). Can I offset those loses on state also? I didn't file yet and I know the place online will direct me, so i guess it was more of a curiosity. My W2-G from the lottery makes it sound like I can't.
I think I have stopped before. I know I played alot when I worked at the grocery store and I am pretty sure I stopped. If I didn't, I don't remember playing alot. Then around 4-5 years ago I started again and it seemed like I was playing waaaaayyyy too much. Probably around the time I hit on the casino and just had fun money sitting around.
With Federal Taxes, you can offset your winnings by claiming a loss in your itemized deductions.
With state taxes, most likely the answer is no. Unless gambling losses are an acceptable "subtraction of income", you will most likely be unable to claim any deduction for them, unless the prize is not taxable in the state you are claiming it in (i.e. Michigan allows bingo winners of $1,200 or more to have those winnings be exempt from state tax, while still being federally taxable).
You would be wise to check with the taxing authority in the state you are required to file in.
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Quote: Originally posted by NoCompLotto! on Feb 10, 2013
With Federal Taxes, you can offset your winnings by claiming a loss in your itemized deductions.
With state taxes, most likely the answer is no. Unless gambling losses are an acceptable "subtraction of income", you will most likely be unable to claim any deduction for them, unless the prize is not taxable in the state you are claiming it in (i.e. Michigan allows bingo winners of $1,200 or more to have those winnings be exempt from state tax, while still being federally taxable).
You would be wise to check with the taxing authority in the state you are required to file in.
Thanks. I kinda assumed that. I am sure it's only going to set me back $30 or so, so its not a stresser.Not going to go all political here, but they really get you with the taxes. wish I could get 30% back on all my losses :)
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Quote: Originally posted by omiller315 on Feb 10, 2013
Can I ask you something? Being an IT guy I get questions all the time, so I hope you don't mind a quick tax question. I do my taxes online. I know on Federal I claim my $1000 and I know I can offset it. When I won at the casino a few years ago(couldnt' offset with losses), I had to also claim that for state(according to the online place). Can I offset those loses on state also? I didn't file yet and I know the place online will direct me, so i guess it was more of a curiosity. My W2-G from the lottery makes it sound like I can't.
I think I have stopped before. I know I played alot when I worked at the grocery store and I am pretty sure I stopped. If I didn't, I don't remember playing alot. Then around 4-5 years ago I started again and it seemed like I was playing waaaaayyyy too much. Probably around the time I hit on the casino and just had fun money sitting around.
I don’t mind. I get asked a million questions all the time. Anyway, there’s no area for a loss deduction on the state return. The amount of your state income tax is mainly comprised of compensation from W-2, PA income tax withheld, PA taxable interest income, and PA taxable dividend income. It doesn’t leave much room for credits and deductions like the federal income tax does.
However, in your post you mentioned casino winnings. Casino losses can be deducted provided there is some type of documentation of the particular losses. Usually my clients can get a statement showing their losses if they used a player’s card when they were playing. I can then substantiate their losses on their return without the IRS questioning it. Hope this helps.
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Quote: Originally posted by PAJenn on Feb 10, 2013
I don’t mind. I get asked a million questions all the time. Anyway, there’s no area for a loss deduction on the state return. The amount of your state income tax is mainly comprised of compensation from W-2, PA income tax withheld, PA taxable interest income, and PA taxable dividend income. It doesn’t leave much room for credits and deductions like the federal income tax does.
However, in your post you mentioned casino winnings. Casino losses can be deducted provided there is some type of documentation of the particular losses. Usually my clients can get a statement showing their losses if they used a player’s card when they were playing. I can then substantiate their losses on their return without the IRS questioning it. Hope this helps.
Thanks. The casino win was $3300 back in 2009, so that won't help me :) I am not sure if I went in 2012, but I have $1000 worth of losers to offset, so i won't have to worry about that.. feel free to return the favor if you need Pc help:)
Okay, so basically you cannot deduct the cost of PA State Lottery tickets from other PA taxable gambling and lottery winnings. Do you purchase tickets from other states? You may be able to deduct those losses. I'll have to check on that.
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Quote: Originally posted by omiller315 on Feb 10, 2013
Thanks. The casino win was $3300 back in 2009, so that won't help me :) I am not sure if I went in 2012, but I have $1000 worth of losers to offset, so i won't have to worry about that.. feel free to return the favor if you need Pc help:)
I'm sure I'll need some computer help in the future. From a tax standpoint, it may sound hoarder-ish but keep ALL your losing tickets. You never know when you'll need them to offset that big win when it comes time to file your taxes.
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Quote: Originally posted by NoCompLotto! on Feb 10, 2013
With Federal Taxes, you can offset your winnings by claiming a loss in your itemized deductions.
With state taxes, most likely the answer is no. Unless gambling losses are an acceptable "subtraction of income", you will most likely be unable to claim any deduction for them, unless the prize is not taxable in the state you are claiming it in (i.e. Michigan allows bingo winners of $1,200 or more to have those winnings be exempt from state tax, while still being federally taxable).
You would be wise to check with the taxing authority in the state you are required to file in.
Right. My Aunt is a CPA and we were playing with the gaming tax forms. My standard deduction is 5900 and i can only itemize 3000, so this means the 1000 in losing tickets i have is useless.
What kills me is at a CT casino you don't pay taxes on table games. Only games like bingo,slots and keno. Some friends won 70k on Baccarat and payed nothing.
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Been cutting WAAAAAAYYYY back....very good thing. It has gotten easier after a grueling 2 weeks. Today I played, and I stuck to my budget. It was....ehhh, the same as I remembered. Ha! Nothing major, in fact I lost the money I had to play with, but at least as I said--I went into it willing to spend that amount.... nothing to really report, a couple break even GRT wins, a couple $30 GRT wins, a losing $25 ticket, a losing $5 Kings Ransom ticket, got one of the new Ten dollar games......got a 10X SYMBOL!!!!!! With ONE DOLLAR UNDER IT!!!! Ha!!!! It literally made me laugh as I stood there because I really honestly didn't expect it. When I saw the 10X symbol I figured it was AT LEAST double the ticket, for a $20 win......Honestly didn't even expect to just have one dollar under the symbol for a ten dollar break-even win....it's one of those things that's so pathetic, it literally made me laugh out loud. So, I have been recovering from splurging on seeing my Irish play for the title game, and it's been a really rough month and 4 days, but it made me focus on finances and actually write out a budget! Eye opening to see that I was spending so much money on scratch offs--money that I didn't really even have...anyway, not preaching, here to post results and see other results.....that $1,000 winner on that $2 game was absolutely awesome looking.......best of luck to everyone, I hope to see some big wins and hopefully even have one of my own to post!!!
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Quote: Originally posted by OldSchoolHits on Feb 11, 2013
Been cutting WAAAAAAYYYY back....very good thing. It has gotten easier after a grueling 2 weeks. Today I played, and I stuck to my budget. It was....ehhh, the same as I remembered. Ha! Nothing major, in fact I lost the money I had to play with, but at least as I said--I went into it willing to spend that amount.... nothing to really report, a couple break even GRT wins, a couple $30 GRT wins, a losing $25 ticket, a losing $5 Kings Ransom ticket, got one of the new Ten dollar games......got a 10X SYMBOL!!!!!! With ONE DOLLAR UNDER IT!!!! Ha!!!! It literally made me laugh as I stood there because I really honestly didn't expect it. When I saw the 10X symbol I figured it was AT LEAST double the ticket, for a $20 win......Honestly didn't even expect to just have one dollar under the symbol for a ten dollar break-even win....it's one of those things that's so pathetic, it literally made me laugh out loud. So, I have been recovering from splurging on seeing my Irish play for the title game, and it's been a really rough month and 4 days, but it made me focus on finances and actually write out a budget! Eye opening to see that I was spending so much money on scratch offs--money that I didn't really even have...anyway, not preaching, here to post results and see other results.....that $1,000 winner on that $2 game was absolutely awesome looking.......best of luck to everyone, I hope to see some big wins and hopefully even have one of my own to post!!!
Congrats Oldschool. Seeing my bank statements opened my eyes dearly as well. I might not be winning much(since I cut way back), but I no longer agonize writing all the ATM withdraws in my check book. I might not be winning with the lottery, but I sure as heck ain't losing with it either :)
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Quote: Originally posted by PAJenn on Feb 10, 2013
Don’t know them, but it’d be a scary small world if I did. I don’t mind seeing someone win big if they spend a decent amount of money but it never seems to be that way. When I worked in a bank several years ago and saw people with lottery checks I couldn’t help but ask how frequently they played. Same bs all the time. “It was my first time”, “I never play”, “I haven’t played in years”. Really? Now I work as an accountant and still am always around the lottery when I have to put the person’s profits and losses on his or her return. It sounds strange, but in this profession it would be very hard for me to stop playing the lottery altogether since I see so many winning and losing tickets. So here’s my question to everyone else: Would you ever stop playing the lottery? If so, what would make you stop?
Yes, it is looking like I am going to stop due to recent news about the ex-president's (and others) bonuses and after I got ripped off by a certain retailer (in a store that I went to all the time and had spent thousands of my money in). Besides him being completely ugly to me, throwing my second chance tickets in his trash bin angrily (I got them back after he said there were no winners) and there was a $50, a $40 winner, and free tickets mind you, but the last straw happened soon after just a couple of days ago. I was playing on a roll of 100x the Money and I was going to get a $500 winner, but after I asked the retailer that I wanted to purchase the #007 ticket from the roll he told me "Alright, hold on on minute", then went to help someone getting gas. He then came back towards me and decided to give that particular ticket to another man that came up behind me. I was shocked and said "Hey, that is the one I wanted!", he then got angry with me and told the man behind me "Good Luck, it is the same # as my girl's birthday, the 7th". I got real mad and told the guy I am pretty sure you got the winner now, and then super furious when the man scratched it off and yep, the elusive $500 winner I was working on getting. (The highest win I've gotten in scratch offs was $250 so far) It was supposed to be my ticket. I called the retailer on it and he got even more mad at me and said "Some #s are not always gonna win." I came back in another day and he denied it happened, but then later that night I got him to admit I was right. To rub it further in, he said "You know, after you left #014 on that same roll won $500 too". The audacity of him to say that! The other guy that works there that I trust told me to give the guy a pass! He admitted I was done wrong but that the guy should get a pass due to him having to work a lot of hours lately and stuff going on in his life, and that God had a reason for me to not get that ticket. Sorry but everyone is having tough times right now and it is no excuse to be treated that way. I just wanted that particular ticket from 100x. Sorry guys, I am just so furious right now... wouldn't you be?
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Quote: Originally posted by chel$belle on Feb 11, 2013
Yes, it is looking like I am going to stop due to recent news about the ex-president's (and others) bonuses and after I got ripped off by a certain retailer (in a store that I went to all the time and had spent thousands of my money in). Besides him being completely ugly to me, throwing my second chance tickets in his trash bin angrily (I got them back after he said there were no winners) and there was a $50, a $40 winner, and free tickets mind you, but the last straw happened soon after just a couple of days ago. I was playing on a roll of 100x the Money and I was going to get a $500 winner, but after I asked the retailer that I wanted to purchase the #007 ticket from the roll he told me "Alright, hold on on minute", then went to help someone getting gas. He then came back towards me and decided to give that particular ticket to another man that came up behind me. I was shocked and said "Hey, that is the one I wanted!", he then got angry with me and told the man behind me "Good Luck, it is the same # as my girl's birthday, the 7th". I got real mad and told the guy I am pretty sure you got the winner now, and then super furious when the man scratched it off and yep, the elusive $500 winner I was working on getting. (The highest win I've gotten in scratch offs was $250 so far) It was supposed to be my ticket. I called the retailer on it and he got even more mad at me and said "Some #s are not always gonna win." I came back in another day and he denied it happened, but then later that night I got him to admit I was right. To rub it further in, he said "You know, after you left #014 on that same roll won $500 too". The audacity of him to say that! The other guy that works there that I trust told me to give the guy a pass! He admitted I was done wrong but that the guy should get a pass due to him having to work a lot of hours lately and stuff going on in his life, and that God had a reason for me to not get that ticket. Sorry but everyone is having tough times right now and it is no excuse to be treated that way. I just wanted that particular ticket from 100x. Sorry guys, I am just so furious right now... wouldn't you be?
Angry is too mild of a word if it was me. They would probably call the police on me . lol
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Quote: Originally posted by lee57 on Feb 11, 2013
Angry is too mild of a word if it was me. They would probably call the police on me . lol
Oh man, my hands are still shaking with anger, I am sooo livid. I had to leave abruptly in case both times. He is completely cheating and lying to me, and well just plain cheating. There is a reason why not too long ago a dumpster diver won $500 from there. I will not let it die though.