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Powerball 28 The Most overdue Red Ball

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Posted: August 22, 2011, 6:17 pm - IP Logged

This is going to popup any draw now.

Too much pressure wave at the back end.

Just sit back and watch the show.

Lurking

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    Posted: August 24, 2011, 11:44 am - IP Logged

    This is going to popup any draw now.

    Too much pressure wave at the back end.

    Just sit back and watch the show.

    Lurking

    Yeah, well, maybe so, but folks have been saying that - specifically on THIS thread - since April 7, and it has not hit yet.

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      Posted: August 24, 2011, 11:48 am - IP Logged

      Yeah, well, maybe so, but folks have been saying that - specifically on THIS thread - since April 7, and it has not hit yet.

      Tonight's the night.

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        Posted: August 24, 2011, 11:53 am - IP Logged

        According to the Powerball post-test and pre-draw test data, RB28 has come out 3 times so far this calendar year. The last time was
        June 15.

        The ball showed up about 10 times in calendar 2010, and numerous times in 2009.

        where can one find this link for the post test and pre draw test.  I am interested in seeing it.  Also do you know if this info is available to see on the missouri lottery.  Thanks for any info

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          where can one find this link for the post test and pre draw test.  I am interested in seeing it.  Also do you know if this info is available to see on the missouri lottery.  Thanks for any info

          http://www.powerball.com/powerball/testpb.doc

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            Posted: August 24, 2011, 9:14 pm - IP Logged

            JadeLottery's link to the full set of Pre, Post, and Live Draws should at least make it clear that RB28 isn't weighted down!

            Someone in another thread mentioned not long ago that RB28 hadn't appeared in 270 Draws, so I wrote a little simulation to see how often you could expect to go that long without a hit.  I know the number of draws sans RB28 is now greater than 270, but these results should be close enough.

            The simulation program simply defines a Trial as 270 Random Numbers drawn from the set [1-39], counting how many times 28 appears.  On average, we expect 28 to come up about every 6.9 Draws.  Obviously, that's not the case for every random set of 270 Draws, as evidenced by our current experience.  The simulation will tell us, as accurately as we desire, just how often we could expect 270 draws to go by without a hit on RB28.  These data are the output from 50,000 Trials.

            Here's a recap of the details:

            HITS , FREQUENCY
              0  ,   48
              1  ,  327
              2  , 1108
              3  , 2676
              4  , 4596
              5  , 6600
              6  , 7650
              7  , 7570
              8  , 6484
              9  , 4964
             10  , 3465
             11  , 2132
             12  , 1173
             13  ,  631
             14  ,  324
             15  ,  148
             16  ,   66
             17  ,   24
             18  ,    8
             19  ,    3
             20  ,    3

            So, the likelihood of making 270 Draws with zero appearances of RB28 is 48:50000.

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              Posted: August 25, 2011, 11:17 am - IP Logged

              I have RB 38 last hitting 93 games ago, WB 35 hitting 87 games ago.

              Also, people have different definitions of 'close': most define it as a close number, I define it as: if I pick a number that has not hit in 50 games, but the one that hit last hit 45 games ago, that, to me, is 'close'.

              February 9, 2008 was the last time RB28 was drawn and if you go back 400 drawings, RB28 and RB35 were each drawn only one time. When we consider anyone playing or getting QPs with those to bonus numbers in the last 4 years only had two chances of winning the jackpot, it just shows how difficult it is to win a jackpot.

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                Posted: August 25, 2011, 1:02 pm - IP Logged

                February 9, 2008 was the last time RB28 was drawn and if you go back 400 drawings, RB28 and RB35 were each drawn only one time. When we consider anyone playing or getting QPs with those to bonus numbers in the last 4 years only had two chances of winning the jackpot, it just shows how difficult it is to win a jackpot.

                "it just shows how difficult it is to win a jackpot."

                With odds of 1:195,249,054, winning a PB jackpot has never been easy but playing combinations with RB28  since the last matrix change, it wasn't even possible.  In addition when playing such combinations you could only win one of 554,078 prizes instead of one of 5,560,464 prizes you could with the winning RB.

                 * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                   
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                  Posted: August 25, 2011, 1:14 pm - IP Logged

                  JadeLottery's link to the full set of Pre, Post, and Live Draws should at least make it clear that RB28 isn't weighted down!

                  Someone in another thread mentioned not long ago that RB28 hadn't appeared in 270 Draws, so I wrote a little simulation to see how often you could expect to go that long without a hit.  I know the number of draws sans RB28 is now greater than 270, but these results should be close enough.

                  The simulation program simply defines a Trial as 270 Random Numbers drawn from the set [1-39], counting how many times 28 appears.  On average, we expect 28 to come up about every 6.9 Draws.  Obviously, that's not the case for every random set of 270 Draws, as evidenced by our current experience.  The simulation will tell us, as accurately as we desire, just how often we could expect 270 draws to go by without a hit on RB28.  These data are the output from 50,000 Trials.

                  Here's a recap of the details:

                  HITS , FREQUENCY
                    0  ,   48
                    1  ,  327
                    2  , 1108
                    3  , 2676
                    4  , 4596
                    5  , 6600
                    6  , 7650
                    7  , 7570
                    8  , 6484
                    9  , 4964
                   10  , 3465
                   11  , 2132
                   12  , 1173
                   13  ,  631
                   14  ,  324
                   15  ,  148
                   16  ,   66
                   17  ,   24
                   18  ,    8
                   19  ,    3
                   20  ,    3

                  So, the likelihood of making 270 Draws with zero appearances of RB28 is 48:50000.

                  --Jimmy4164

                  So, the likelihood of making 270 Draws with zero appearances of RB28 is 48:50000

                  Sometimes dealing with what is actually happening is more productive than using what is likely to happen.  By playing PB as it it was a 5/59+1/38 instead of a 5/59+1/39 a player once it was obvious RB28 might be out for a while, could have improved his odds of winning a jackpot from 1:195,249,054 to 1:190,242,688.  Not much, but every little bit helps.

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                    Posted: August 25, 2011, 1:22 pm - IP Logged

                    I love the way you guys look back and calculate your chances after the fact. Smiley

                    It is at the core of your fallacious reasoning.

                    Stack47 said,"...anyone playing or getting QPs with those to bonus numbers in the last 4 years only had two chances of winning the jackpot..."

                    This is an incorrect statement.  Anyone betting on 400 drawings exclusively playing the RB28 bonus number had 400 chances to pick that number correctly, not 2.  Their EXPECTED number of RB28 hits was about 10 (400/39). 

                    Their odds of winning the Jackpot were the ones posted at Powerball.com.

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                      I love the way you guys look back and calculate your chances after the fact. Smiley

                      It is at the core of your fallacious reasoning.

                      Stack47 said,"...anyone playing or getting QPs with those to bonus numbers in the last 4 years only had two chances of winning the jackpot..."

                      This is an incorrect statement.  Anyone betting on 400 drawings exclusively playing the RB28 bonus number had 400 chances to pick that number correctly, not 2.  Their EXPECTED number of RB28 hits was about 10 (400/39). 

                      Their odds of winning the Jackpot were the ones posted at Powerball.com.

                      That's what players do who ask the question "Is there something I could have done to improve my odds?".  They have to look backward before they can look forward and hope what happens most is likely to happen again.

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                        I was going through a list of Results for the Powerball Game and i've noticed the Red Powerball # "28" has never hit as the winning RED  Powerball Number since the first Powerball Drawing was held in New York which was back on January 7th, 2009. That was 258 Powerball Drawings ago!  Mathematically every RED powerball # should hit about once in every 39 Drawings on Average since there are 39 RED Powerball #'s to choose from ( 1 - 39) . Since 258 Drawings have already taken place since the Powerball Drawing began in NY this means the RED Powerball # 28 should have already hit at least a couple of times but it still has yet to hit, and it's also the ONLY Red Powerball # that has NEVER hit as the winning Powerball # since the first Powerball drawing was held in NY!

                        The last time the # 28 was the winning RED Powerball Number before Powerball began in all states was on February 9th 2008 which was over 300 Drawings ago!  Winning #'s for that drawing were,  4, 23,  24,  30, 43,  and PB 28. Of course Powerball is now a state - wide game so the Same #'s that come up as the Results in Your State will be the exact Powerball Drawing Results for every other state. This makes the Powerball Red Ball # 28 the most overdue Red Ball since it's out the longest.I'm almost positive this is the out the Longest Red Ball Number For the Powerball Game but if  I am wrong please correct me.

                        The odds of winning the Jackpot can be reduced from the original 1 in 195,249,054 to just 1 in 5,138,133 if you use Powerball 28 as your red ball and Powerball 28 is actually drawn since the chances of matching The Five White Ball #'s without the Powerball are 1 in 5,138,133 as stated on the back of the Powerball Game Card. However thats if you play just 1 game of Powerball. Play 10 games of powerball and Divide those odds by 10 and you get about a  1 out 513, 813 chance of winning the Jackpot. 1 in 513,813 odds can be tough but it's much easier than 1 out of 195,249,054 ! (Be aware these odds reduction statistics will only be in effect when Powerball # 28 is actually drawn as the Red Ball #.) KNowing that # 28 is the most overdue Red Ball I no Longer have to worry about matching the Five White Ball Numbers PLus the Powerball Red # now i'll just have to worry about choosing Five White Ball #'s.

                        My guess is that the Powerball # 28 will hit as the Red Ball REALLY soon. I'm playing it as the Powerball # in Every game of powerball I play and also adding the Powerplay option to the ticket(s). That way if I play 10 games and the Powerplay is x5 I will win $15 per game just for matching the Powerball ! I may also get lucky and match a couple of white ball #'s to win greater tier prizes or even all 5 white balls #'s and hit the Jackpot. Good luck to anyone who will try to use the Powerball 28 Red Ball # in future Powerball Games. I'll keep this thread updated and Post My results when # 28 is drawn as the Winning Powerball Red #.

                        Hi Slugger777!

                        I have studied numerology for many years. In numerology, #28 is a number of TRUST. People affected by the #28 are likely to be successful only to find they finally lose out because they have trusted someone else or something else, rather than rely on their own judgement or skill.

                        Number 28 suggests a permanent battle for security. Unhappy

                        If a person is going to play #28, they should be cautious, patient and trust ONLY themselves.Big Smile

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                          Posted: August 25, 2011, 1:50 pm - IP Logged

                          Here's another way of looking at it.

                           

                          White Powerballs
                          Ball Count7                                            04                                       
                          6                                            11                                       
                          5                                  09      081305  16                                 
                          4                            02    1901  21121826  23                                 
                          3                            25    311506343944271036                                 
                          2                            54  03332817484753301445    0737                         
                          1                      2935  55244357404656595838505142  4952  22      4132          20
                              0123456789101112131415161718192021222324252627282930313233343536373839404142
                              Hit Frequency


                          Red Powerballs
                          Ball Count5        0112020804           
                          4        031607250605         
                          3      13141710310911  21     
                          2      18262219362029  27     
                          12835  32383433392437  3015  23
                              01234567891011121314
                              Hit Frequency

                          Most recent Red Powerball

                           

                            Red Powerballs
                          Ball Count6                9           
                          5        116    20           
                          4        322212244         
                          3        14267192556       
                          2        18341031368112115   
                          12835  13323817333929372730  23
                            01234567891011121314
                          Hit Frequency

                           

                          I'd keep an eye on that 35 as well.

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                            Posted: August 25, 2011, 4:57 pm - IP Logged

                            That's what players do who ask the question "Is there something I could have done to improve my odds?".  They have to look backward before they can look forward and hope what happens most is likely to happen again.

                            "That's what players do who ask the question 'Is there something I could have done to improve my odds?'.  They have to look backward before they can look forward and hope what happens most is likely to happen again.

                            This is the clearest and most concise paraphrase of the generally accepted definition of the Gambler's Fallacy that I've ever read!

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                              "That's what players do who ask the question 'Is there something I could have done to improve my odds?'.  They have to look backward before they can look forward and hope what happens most is likely to happen again.

                              This is the clearest and most concise paraphrase of the generally accepted definition of the Gambler's Fallacy that I've ever read!

                              Thank you and feel free to repeat it whenever you're trying to explain the Gambler's Fallacy.

                              In spite of that, no one has ever convinced me that looking at previous drawings before picking a few lines to play in a future drawing disadvantaged me over picking the same amount of lines randomly using Quick Picks. 

                              In fact, my avoidance of RB28 in my PB picks because it hadn't come up in such a long time has been an advantage so far even though I haven't won a lot.

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