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rdgrnr's avatar - walt
Way back up in them dadgum hills, son!
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Posted: April 16, 2012, 2:00 am - IP Logged

Okay...sorry for trying to be of assistance. Good luck.


L.L.

Hey LL,

There's a line by the Warden in Cool Hand Luke: "Some men you just can't reach."

There's also a saying: "No good deed goes unpunished."

I think they both fit here regarding your above exchange with the doodle dribble guy.

Some people are just rude, arrogant, ill-mannered and obnoxious ingrates.


                                             
                     
                                         

 

 

 

 

                                                                                                   

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                            --Edmund Burke

 

 

    RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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    Posted: April 16, 2012, 2:18 am - IP Logged

    If I scrap the $500. project and spend $368. per month instead, Im hoping to get some support here.

    Lots of people spend $300. per month on cigarettes and there is virtualy zero chance of a positive return.

    Im hoping to get some support here.

    What kind of support were you hoping for?  If you got $500 to put on one lottery drawing, you got all the support you need and more than you'll ever get from LP members unless you come close to winning a jackpot and then it will just be "Congratulations".

     * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
       
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      Posted: April 16, 2012, 2:39 am - IP Logged

      I want to spend around $500. on a single Mega drew. Should I use 500 different sets of numbers with a single favorite Mega number, or use 10 sets of numbers and all 46 mega numbers with each?

      Maybe some of the people who spent 5x that on the last big jackpot can come forth and advise against such an idea. I'm sure with the latest jackpot frenzy,

      people were doing as much and more thinking than you are in this post.

      $500 on ONE MM draw? What about the weeks to follow? Or are you contemplating doing this once per month? Once per 6 months? What happens when you

      don't get the return you were hoping for after shelling out $500? Do you 'have at it' again or just go back to a few cards each week or here and there?

      500 chances is small considering the odds are so high....and that's NOT with the Megaplier? I think I'd rather do a few qp's here and there and hope my lucky

      day is a couple weeks from now rather than a 20 or so years from now.

      Well, whatever you decide, good luck to you!

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        Posted: April 16, 2012, 2:57 am - IP Logged

        hi to all

        there is one thing i want to tell you

        lottery is investement , some will call me crazy or stupid,i tell them life in general is gambling,are u sure that you will keep your job or our money for tommorow,answer is no

        anything can happened,that  $500 if its not going to hurt your pocket, go for it and good luck,

        i want to give an example

        $500 = 56 numbers will be played 44 times

        if you play $506 is better

        $506 will give you 56 numbers played 45 times + (10 different numbers)

        also 46 numbers mega balls will be played 11 times

        with good combinations you will be close to jackpot

         

        I have been studying lottery for 4 years , and what i come out with

        i have a way to win but i have to spend a lot

        for example pick 5 from 39 numbers there are 52 combinations with different sets

        if I invest aroud 20 dollars on each combination i will be very close to first prize by %95 if its not %99 ,but i need to win a good amout to start

        usualy winners win averge $25,000 to 105,000 wich is after taxes $15,575 to $65,415

        with $1040 investment  with my combinations 4 out 5 at least 1 or 2 tickets for sure wich is $400 to $800 in and $240 lost

        if i win first prize i will generate that 14,000 to 64,000 a year if I  win 3,4,5 times thats better than a job  lol

         

        so my friend if you have confidence on your way of playing go for it

          Lucky Loser's avatar - bucks
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          Posted: April 16, 2012, 9:11 am - IP Logged

          FWIW, when I post a bit of advice, it's derived from absolute real life experiences along with personal observations of others around me in these games. I'm very well acquainted with several people that unloaded $200-300 on the last PB deal...and only got a few bucks to show for it. Some numbers were self picked while others were QP's and it all cam out the same. They haven't played any games since then because they're upset that they didn't win more...and figure it's all rigged. Well, I had to remind them of the same thing...that there were plenty of others in the same boat trying to row upstream WITH THEIR HANDS! 

          It's just not guaranteed as (1) number still changes everything in the end. I advised them not to save all those old tickets, nor to look at them if they weren't going to play the numbers because if the numbers hit now, they'd definitely need a SUPPORT GROUP. When people go in together and come up $500-$1000 to spend, that's one thing. To go it alone would seem to require medication and counceling in my opinion.

          In the end, though, to each their own and absolute best of luck. I believe it's very true that common sense is really not so common...no offense to anyone.


          L.L.


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            Posted: April 16, 2012, 12:06 pm - IP Logged

            The "One In 1000" Project:  A Lottery Post blog exploring what exactly happens when you improve your odds of winning Mega Millions or Powerball to 1 in 1000.  (Spoiler alert: not much.)

            Theoretically you should hit a jackpot within a 1000 draws. (9.6 years) I would think sooner if your using all high probability number sets.


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              Posted: April 16, 2012, 12:28 pm - IP Logged

              No offence taken Loser,

              Its nice to see such spirited responses, especially from the ones who are too dim witted to realize that my initial question was hypothetical in nature. The reason I have $500. to spend (if I want) is because quite some time ago I decided to put my ticket buying money in the bank instead of buying tickets. It's too bad that more people don't realize that "sometimes the best hand, is no hand at all"

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                Posted: April 16, 2012, 3:32 pm - IP Logged

                If I scrap the $500. project and spend $368. per month instead, Im hoping to get some support here.

                Lots of people spend $300. per month on cigarettes and there is virtualy zero chance of a positive return.

                The smoker spending almost $4000 per year on cigarettes has one advantage over a lottery player spending almost $4000 per year on lottery tickets. The smoker has a better chance of dying early, thus missing out on the opportunity to still be working at 75 because they don't have any money to retire with.

                If you spent $300 playing MM every month during a 40 year career you'd spend a total of $144,000.

                If the odds remained the same over the entire 40 year period:

                • If 1220 people all did that we could expect that 1 of them would win a jackpot and 1219 of them wouldn't.
                • We could expect that 45 of them would win a 2nd place prize, resulting in a "profit" of $106,000. That's a lot less than what they'd have from investing the $300 every month at a modest rate of return.
                • 1175 (just over 96%) of them would lose at least $134,000, not including the losses from not  investing the money.

                It's your money so do whatever you want, but nothing you do will change the overwhelming odds of losing the majority of what you spend.

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                  Posted: April 16, 2012, 3:43 pm - IP Logged

                  I like the people who drop $500 on a single draw as it increases the jackpot in the event I have the 1 ticket in 176 million to win. I think they should also play the megaplier and really make it worth their/everyone else's while. I know people in pools that played hundreds in the ever-increasing mega drawings and my $1 tickets looked a lot better in comparison to their expenditure after 500 million (?) tickets lost and 3 won.

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                    Posted: April 16, 2012, 4:12 pm - IP Logged

                    Ronnie316,

                    As dr65 said, people spent more than 5X $500 on the last record setting MM and got zilch.

                    Do you really think any lottery would provide a game as vulnerable as you're suggesting so that anyone with a large enough bankroll could turn it into a personal ATM? Before a game is made available to the public it's tsted ovr and over, and when a flaw does comde up, like in Massachusetts, the game disappears.

                    As far as the MM number or hitting 3 + 0, if you're willing to spend $500 on a draw the people running the game don't care how many times you hit those.

                    manhouss,

                    The odds on 5/39 are 575, 757 to one. How do you see 52 combinations getting you 95% to 99% "close"?

                    KY Floyd,

                    Dying because you can't breathe is no kind of "advantage" at all.

                    Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                    Lep

                    There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                      Posted: April 16, 2012, 5:25 pm - IP Logged

                      Why don't you get quick picks for 500 USD?

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                        Posted: April 16, 2012, 5:34 pm - IP Logged

                        Some qp like this?

                        11*28*32*42*46
                        12*18*19*30*33
                        05*20*27*29*43
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                          dr65's avatar - black panther.jpg
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                          Posted: April 16, 2012, 5:53 pm - IP Logged

                          No offence taken Loser,

                          Its nice to see such spirited responses, especially from the ones who are too dim witted to realize that my initial question was hypothetical in nature. The reason I have $500. to spend (if I want) is because quite some time ago I decided to put my ticket buying money in the bank instead of buying tickets. It's too bad that more people don't realize that "sometimes the best hand, is no hand at all"

                          Best way to get no responses in the future...put down the contributors by calling them dimwitted. Best way to get totally useless responses in the form

                          of defensive postings...put down the contributors by calling them dimwitted.

                          What, exactly, did you want?

                          It's right there.....Which odds are better?

                          Hypothetical money isn't something you actually have. Since you have yours in the bank already, what are you doing? Trying to find the best way to spend

                          it? Or try to convince yourself you should hold onto it? If you have no interest in playing, it's a no brainer....let it rot there. Maybe in as much time it would

                          take for you to hit - remember $500 isn't big money in the scope of things, ie: Mega Millions - you could have a nice balance to sit and look at each day.

                          You could also say boy am I glad I saved my money instead of buying tickets.

                          At the same time you're saying that, someone else will be saying Yippee! I'm happy I played that day!

                          To each his own.

                          But let's try and start a meaningful thread next time. Thumbs Up

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                            Posted: April 16, 2012, 6:06 pm - IP Logged

                            Live action, bigboy90000 spent $483 on MM, won $52.

                            http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/245083

                            Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                            Lep

                            There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                              Posted: April 16, 2012, 6:58 pm - IP Logged

                              The "One In 1000" Project:  A Lottery Post blog exploring what exactly happens when you improve your odds of winning Mega Millions or Powerball to 1 in 1000.  (Spoiler alert: not much.)

                              Theoretically you should hit a jackpot within a 1000 draws. (9.6 years) I would think sooner if your using all high probability number sets.

                              Theoretically, yes.  I'm more interested in seeing what sort of return you can expect from playing so many lines at once.  I have not been using high probability number sets, just randomly-generated sets using the full field, but it has been suggested I try that and compare the differences.

                              Patriot