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Do some number combinations have better odds?

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    They had an equal chance, they weren't guaranteed to show up.

     

    That's what equal means...  The other balls could have been one of those 15, but weren't because they had an equal chance and were randomly selected.

     

    You can't determine odds based on results..... that's not how it works.  If I flip a coin there's a 50/50 chance.  I can't wait till it comes up heads and then claim tails had a 0% chance.

    "The other balls could have been one of those 15, but weren't because they had an equal chance and were randomly selected."

    Jimmy wants scientific methods and that includes tests. How can we conclude each number has an equal chance when the test results always show many numbers didn't?

    "You can't determine odds based on results."

    Since we're testing groups of numbers over time (15 drawings), we can use the results to compare the two groups and recalculate the odds. Now we're comparing a larger group of numbers to a smaller group of numbers. Do the odds now favor more of the 41 numbers repeating or favor more of the 15 numbers being drawn?

    "If I flip a coin there's a 50/50 chance.  I can't wait till it comes up heads and then claim tails had a 0% chance."

    The effect is less profound when it's only two possible outcomes, but it still doesn't change the fact one of the outcomes will have a 0% chance. But I'm taking about a game where we know 51 of the outcomes have a 0% chance and Ronnie suggested a possible method that reduces 55% of the known outcomes by focusing on a group of 28 numbers.

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      I haven't done  28  in awhile

       

      2  5  6  8  9     10  11  12  13     22  24  26  28  29       31 32 33  34  37

                      41  42  43  44  48       51  52  54  56

                                   Still riding   Bonus Ball 

                                                24

      I'm  "Highly Balanced"   with at least Four in every catagory

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      I wanna try these  for another Draw tonight 1-1-13


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        "How are we coming along with our filtering by decades?"

        Decades can be used as filters but I didn't know we were filtering something. Exactly what are we filtering?

        "The last draw I think only had 40's and 50's."

        And a group of 28 number has lots of room for numbers in the 40s and 50s and matching all five numbers.

        "What are the odds of that?"

        Better than 98,280 imaginary QP players all playing $1 tickets.

        We should be trying to filter out losing numbers!  I would put more time into the game, but the astronomical odds, and my sudden dificulty in ESP, is causing me great distress in my "easy" game, although I still do try to locate any "imaginary" "bias" when I do take the time to update and look.

        Filtering by decades would as spock would say, be the next "logical" step in this experiment.

        Especially if you want to try and use some sort of "scientific method".

        Thinking of...


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          Assuming you're talking about PB, the last drawing had a #36.  The only PB drawing to have all 40's and 50's was  09/30/09 - 41 42 52 54 57  +30

          No, I am refering to MM because I play the more thrifty game.

          However it is not beyond comprehension that I have gotten my games mixed up.

          But filtering by decades should in "theory" give an advantage as well.

          Especially when certain "random" events are anticipated.

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            We should be trying to filter out losing numbers!  I would put more time into the game, but the astronomical odds, and my sudden dificulty in ESP, is causing me great distress in my "easy" game, although I still do try to locate any "imaginary" "bias" when I do take the time to update and look.

            Filtering by decades would as spock would say, be the next "logical" step in this experiment.

            Especially if you want to try and use some sort of "scientific method".

            Thinking of...

            The  "imaginary"  40's  Groupings seem to Hit alot


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              Stack47,

              "I guess it's just more intellectually sound to say 'each number has an equal chance of being drawn..........'

              That's right.

              People around the world discovered long ago that "You can't get blood out of a turnip."  In an analogous way, this is what many of you are trying do while selecting your lottery numbers.  This is not a symptom of stupidity, or lunacy, it is   Innumeracy.  But this, I'm sure, won't deter you from your quest.

              Search on!

              --Jimmy4164

              P.S. Happy New Year!

              Umm, Jimmy you made the same exact post to the same exact post twice.

              Hmm. Something is a miss.  Are you sure you are not some sort of robot or computer?

              You are kind of reminding me of the HAL 3000, from the movie 2001.

              Are you getting your circuits crossed?  Are you starting to go haywire and bonkers like Hal did?

              "Dr Bowman, please I would prefer it if you did not try to analyze the balls.  Dr. Bowman, your behaviour is quiet irregular in your manic tendencies to try and understand random.  Dr. Bowman please step away from Yolanda Vega,...)"

              "HAL-3000, I am sorry but I am afraid I will have to disconnect you now."

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                No, I am refering to MM because I play the more thrifty game.

                However it is not beyond comprehension that I have gotten my games mixed up.

                But filtering by decades should in "theory" give an advantage as well.

                Especially when certain "random" events are anticipated.

                In that case, MegaMillions has never had a drawing with all five numbers in the 40's and 50's. The best it has ever done is four numbers in the 40's and 50's twenty seven times.

                 * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                   
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                  In that case, MegaMillions has never had a drawing with all five numbers in the 40's and 50's. The best it has ever done is four numbers in the 40's and 50's twenty seven times.

                  Well thats not bad if you can time it.  But "timing" is something for a "professional."

                  But more often than not.  I am sure that you can win with only two or three decades.

                  I filter first by decades, then second by skips.

                  If time permits I will make a nice chart.

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                    Well thats not bad if you can time it.  But "timing" is something for a "professional."

                    But more often than not.  I am sure that you can win with only two or three decades.

                    I filter first by decades, then second by skips.

                    If time permits I will make a nice chart.

                    How do you define "professional" when it comes to playing the lottery?  There are those who spend a lot of time studying the lotteries and some who write lottery software but their profession is not playing the lotteries.

                     * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                       
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                      How do you define "professional" when it comes to playing the lottery?  There are those who spend a lot of time studying the lotteries and some who write lottery software but their profession is not playing the lotteries.

                      A "professional" has the "sight"

                      Sword of Omens give me sight beyond sight!


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                        A "professional" has the "sight"

                        Sword of Omens give me sight beyond sight!

                        I Agree!

                        Being able to anticipate something before it happens is the same as having "sight" beyond what is visible.


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                          Umm, Jimmy you made the same exact post to the same exact post twice.

                          Hmm. Something is a miss.  Are you sure you are not some sort of robot or computer?

                          You are kind of reminding me of the HAL 3000, from the movie 2001.

                          Are you getting your circuits crossed?  Are you starting to go haywire and bonkers like Hal did?

                          "Dr Bowman, please I would prefer it if you did not try to analyze the balls.  Dr. Bowman, your behaviour is quiet irregular in your manic tendencies to try and understand random.  Dr. Bowman please step away from Yolanda Vega,...)"

                          "HAL-3000, I am sorry but I am afraid I will have to disconnect you now."

                          Yeah, I was getting that same creepy feeling. What do you call those who are void of emotion??


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                            Yeah, I was getting that same creepy feeling. What do you call those who are void of emotion??

                            Reptilians?


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                              I wanna try these  for another Draw tonight 1-1-13

                              Ok x1kosmic,

                              Here is my set of 12 for Maddogs Challenge.

                              03 06 10 11 13 28 29 32 33 34 41 48

                              bonus ball 10

                                 
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