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Posted: January 25, 2013, 9:24 pm - IP Logged

My state is now trying to stop people who are on welfare from buying lottery tickets...before you ask how...they want the clerks to ask when the people check out or when they use an EBT card to deny them the tickets when they check out... Anyways I thought it was interesting and that I'd share it with you all...

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    Posted: January 25, 2013, 9:29 pm - IP Logged

    If they have money for lottery tickets we shouldn't have to be feeding them.

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      Posted: January 25, 2013, 9:37 pm - IP Logged

      Other states have suggested laws that when you go in to cash one, if the lottery discovers during the background check that you are receiving aid, your claim would be denied.

      Of course, that won't stop them from buying lottery, it would just create ripe pickin's for the scammer retailers who will cash them and keep 25% or more.

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        Posted: January 25, 2013, 9:53 pm - IP Logged

        During my college years, I clerked at a Circle K on Elm's Hill Pike in Nashville. There was no Powerball then but you had a few of them who would wander into the store and buy items at 5cents to build cash for cigarettes. As soon as I caught on to the trend I would force them to use their cash from the previous transactions and they would get angry. Sometimes they stormed out of the store threatening to report me. I just sang my country songs from 95.5FM. I especially like the top 5 at 5 - lol.

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          Posted: January 25, 2013, 10:24 pm - IP Logged

          How bout make it so if they win a certain amount they have to pay back the welfare they've received.


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            Posted: January 25, 2013, 10:59 pm - IP Logged

            How bout make it so if they win a certain amount they have to pay back the welfare they've received.

            Depends what game. if it's a p-3 game and they win 80 bucks or 500 for a straight, do they take all of it cause the person owes 3 grand? or do they take half? The people wouldn't play if those were the options.

            On the other hand, JP wins would still be good after what they owed, but that wouldn't work either because 99% don't win the JP in their lifetime,e so there would be no incentive for the officials to get any money back, unless they took some of the lower tier prizes. The logistics would be a nightmare. lol

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              Posted: January 25, 2013, 11:35 pm - IP Logged

              How bout make it so if they win a certain amount they have to pay back the welfare they've received.

              I Agree!

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                Posted: January 26, 2013, 12:09 am - IP Logged

                Depends what game. if it's a p-3 game and they win 80 bucks or 500 for a straight, do they take all of it cause the person owes 3 grand? or do they take half? The people wouldn't play if those were the options.

                On the other hand, JP wins would still be good after what they owed, but that wouldn't work either because 99% don't win the JP in their lifetime,e so there would be no incentive for the officials to get any money back, unless they took some of the lower tier prizes. The logistics would be a nightmare. lol

                The welfare people don't want to interfere with needy people winning a jackpot, nor do they want their money back.  What they want is for needy people to quit wasting their money playing the lottery, because the odds are against them ever winning more than they spend over the long run.

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                  Posted: January 26, 2013, 12:12 am - IP Logged

                  My state is now trying to stop people who are on welfare from buying lottery tickets...before you ask how...they want the clerks to ask when the people check out or when they use an EBT card to deny them the tickets when they check out... Anyways I thought it was interesting and that I'd share it with you all...

                  I didn't realize buying lottery tickets with EBT cards was currently allowed.  Blocking those sales I can understand, but I'm fairly certain none of us here would appreciate it if the clerks started asking us if we were on welfare just because they're trying to weed those people out.

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                    Posted: January 26, 2013, 12:13 am - IP Logged

                    My state is now trying to stop people who are on welfare from buying lottery tickets...before you ask how...they want the clerks to ask when the people check out or when they use an EBT card to deny them the tickets when they check out... Anyways I thought it was interesting and that I'd share it with you all...

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                      Posted: January 26, 2013, 12:45 am - IP Logged

                      "they want the clerks to ask when the people check out"

                      The clerks have a tough enough job without adding welfare police to it. I've never had an EBT card so I don't know what they can and can't buy with one. But I know people who get welfare and SSI similar money cards and once a month an amount of money is added to it. These cards are like any other ATM card; pin number and all.

                      "or when they use an EBT card to deny them the tickets when they check out"

                      I can understand not allowing them to buy anything but food products on the EBT food stamps card, but whatever else they buy with cash shouldn't be up to a store clerk. Does your state have all their other problems solved and is this the last one on the bucket list?

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                        Posted: January 26, 2013, 12:54 am - IP Logged

                        With not allowing them to buy tickets if they have an EBT card, those people will simply go to another store to only buy tickets, not letting it be known they have EBT. I could see this as wrong because they could have gotten that dollar or two from asking for change from people, thus the money they are using to buy tickets has nothing to do with the welfare system.

                         

                        With not allowing them to redeem winnings, this allows middle-men to exploit those people. In the end this would help neither the state nor the welfare recipient. The same goes for if the state took money from winnings to those on welfare. In either system it will be the middle-men who walk away ahead.

                         

                        I think states need to worry more about EBT going to waste in terms of people buying non-food related items and those who sell their food stamps. In the first scenario, small store owners will ring up $5.00 worth of food to someone who wants to buy a pack of cigarettes. In the second scenario, people will talk to someone who will give the EBT owner a list of items and then pay out half of what the total was. So EBT owner goes into somehwere like Ralph's, buys grocieries totalling $180 and the other person will pay out $90 (of course the ratio varies, so sometimes they'd pay out $120, just depends on how desparate the EBT owner is).

                         

                        Through volunteering and simple random talks with people with EBT I've met numerous amounts of people who do those things above. And none of them buy lottery, or at least claim to not, but I think they'd fess up on that if they're willing to spill the beans on their EBT usage. NY Post also had numerous articles covering high EBT usage at bodegas, where it was likely they were trading cash for food stamps as well as high EBT-ATM usage at strip clubs and liquor stores. Most of those latter usages are people taking out money at those places to use in that place, so instead of using the money the state gives them on housing or utilities, it goes to alcohol and strippers. I think California made it so EBT can't be used in certain places, which seems is something New York should follow suit on.

                         

                        I think welfare recipients shouldn't be allowed to use the money to buy lottery, but I also think the states have bigger worries than trying to stop them from getting tickets. Much more money is used towards drugs, alcohol and sex as well as is simply squandered away to people taking advantage of welfare recipients.

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                          Posted: January 26, 2013, 1:31 am - IP Logged

                          Saw this on CNN. They can't prove where the $ came from for ticket purchases. Anyways if they win the state won't have to pay anymore.

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                            Posted: January 26, 2013, 2:41 am - IP Logged

                            end welfare. That way, we wouldn't have to worry about people abusing it. Down on your luck and have no money? Move in with a relative until you get back on your feet. People should take care of their own flesh and blood and not rely on the government.

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                              Posted: January 26, 2013, 8:05 am - IP Logged

                              My state is now trying to stop people who are on welfare from buying lottery tickets...before you ask how...they want the clerks to ask when the people check out or when they use an EBT card to deny them the tickets when they check out... Anyways I thought it was interesting and that I'd share it with you all...

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