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Posted: January 26, 2013, 3:35 pm - IP Logged

How bout make it so if they win a certain amount they have to pay back the welfare they've received.

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    Posted: January 26, 2013, 3:37 pm - IP Logged

    end welfare. That way, we wouldn't have to worry about people abusing it. Down on your luck and have no money? Move in with a relative until you get back on your feet. People should take care of their own flesh and blood and not rely on the government.

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      Posted: January 26, 2013, 3:58 pm - IP Logged

      America seems to be turning into a welfare state.


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        Posted: January 26, 2013, 3:59 pm - IP Logged

        end welfare. That way, we wouldn't have to worry about people abusing it. Down on your luck and have no money? Move in with a relative until you get back on your feet. People should take care of their own flesh and blood and not rely on the government.

        America seems to be turning into a welfare state.

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          Posted: January 26, 2013, 4:10 pm - IP Logged

          If they have money for lottery tickets we shouldn't have to be feeding them.

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            Posted: January 26, 2013, 5:08 pm - IP Logged

            I don't think that they should deny the claim but set up some payback system so the state can recoup some of that money...Like anything $600 and up take like I dont know 40%...

            Here's that clue you need. If your income comes from me, and I give it to you because you said you need it for essential living expenses and then it turns out that you had enough to buy a lottery ticket you didn't really need the money. That means you bought the ticket with my money, so it's my ticket.

            If my ticket is a wininng ticket the prize is mine. All of it.

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              Posted: January 26, 2013, 5:43 pm - IP Logged

              If even one clerk ever askes me that stupid question, I will never again buy lottery tickets. There was time when at Wall Mart ( may be still) they sked people to show their ID if they were buying an aerosol paint. They asked me once, I complained about it, and, beleave me, Wall Mart fell off my popularity list sharply.

              I don't understand, why clerks can be even allowed to ask questions pertaining to someone's finances, isn't it a private matter? Should every one of us  bring proofs of our financial state to any dinky gas station, so little cheating clerk can approvingly node his head, or scoldingly raise his eyebrow? That's a shame!

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                Posted: January 26, 2013, 5:56 pm - IP Logged

                If even one clerk ever askes me that stupid question, I will never again buy lottery tickets. There was time when at Wall Mart ( may be still) they sked people to show their ID if they were buying an aerosol paint. They asked me once, I complained about it, and, beleave me, Wall Mart fell off my popularity list sharply.

                I don't understand, why clerks can be even allowed to ask questions pertaining to someone's finances, isn't it a private matter? Should every one of us  bring proofs of our financial state to any dinky gas station, so little cheating clerk can approvingly node his head, or scoldingly raise his eyebrow? That's a shame!

                One of the smoke shops I used to buy a ticket from a couple times a week started asking me if I had money to pay for it before they'd print it out.  I quit going there just for that -- it's been 6 - 8 months since I set foot in there even though I walk by several times a week.  If they asked if I filed bankruptcy or received welfare?  I'd never even think about going back.  And if it was state law every retailer had to ask?  I'd buy from the vending machines, maybe.  It  might make me so mad I'd give up on lottery altogether.

                If they want to enforce something like that, it needs to be when they're paying out on a ticket.  They already check for child support and other financial stuff, so it would be okay with me if the lottery security wanted to check welfare roles and bankruptcy court too, and deny a payout if it is determined that person is disqualified.  But no way do I want clerks challenging me on my financial status.

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                  Posted: January 26, 2013, 6:30 pm - IP Logged

                  LOL Stack and ditto.... but Im thinking since the NC's money stream is streaming pretty thin...especially the had to put a morotorium on annexing neighborhoods into the larger cities to raise more tax money...especially in my city...whenever the city was low on tax cash they annex a neighborhood...there is no benefit here for being in the city.....other than the city collecting more property tax which to me is self-serving...they hook you up to city water and pick up your garbage...that's it...oh yeah they also saddle you with a $5000 and up bill for hooking you up to city water...and since the city owns the local power/water company....they will gladly chop that $5000 up and stick a extra payment to you every month...everyone here hates being annexed....but they act like that's the only way to get money here...instead of stop taxing the heck out of industry so maybe just maybe we can get some jobs here....other than working at Ft. Bragg, Walmart distribution, or Kelly Springfield....that's pretty much the industry we have left in good ole Fayetteville...

                  It's the same as using their EBT card to buy groceries and then purchase cigarettes with cash. The real problem with this type of legislation is placing the penalty on the store clerks forcing them to ask all their customers if they are on welfare or in bankruptcy. Unless you can prove to a clerk you're not on welfare or in bankruptcy, they probably won't sell you a ticket.

                  While the these clerks are embarrassing all the hard working tax paying players, the people on welfare will be using the vending machines.


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                    Posted: January 26, 2013, 7:49 pm - IP Logged

                    Now Im not going to stop playing the lottery because somone asks me if Im on welfare...it's a legal game and all it takes a buck or two to win....they cant prove where I got the money and Im not going to either...Also I just thought of something...What if the person on welfare bought their tickets first...then bought groceries with their EBT card...how can they stop that...you know people always find a way to get around something..

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                      Posted: January 27, 2013, 12:25 am - IP Logged

                      When they sign up for food stamps and welfare and all the other free stuff, they should make them sign a contract that they will never play the lottery or benefit from the lottery in anyway while they are receiving benefits from the taxpayers or for 2 years after benefits stop. And any large jackpots won after that go to paying back any benefits ever received before they get what's left.

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                        Now Im not going to stop playing the lottery because somone asks me if Im on welfare...it's a legal game and all it takes a buck or two to win....they cant prove where I got the money and Im not going to either...Also I just thought of something...What if the person on welfare bought their tickets first...then bought groceries with their EBT card...how can they stop that...you know people always find a way to get around something..

                        It's possible to have an income, have no taxes withheld, and still get a check from the IRS. How about banning all the people using the Earned Income Credit deduction?

                        I'm not 100% sure but I believe some people get EBT cards because of their low income like our seniors drawing small regular SS checks. If this is true, this bill is basically trying to ban poor people from playing the lottery.


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                          Posted: January 27, 2013, 9:24 am - IP Logged

                          Here's that clue you need. If your income comes from me, and I give it to you because you said you need it for essential living expenses and then it turns out that you had enough to buy a lottery ticket you didn't really need the money. That means you bought the ticket with my money, so it's my ticket.

                          If my ticket is a wininng ticket the prize is mine. All of it.

                          LOL try that one in court.......

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                            Posted: January 27, 2013, 10:55 am - IP Logged

                            Applying effort to stop poor people from playing lottery... If the same effort was placed upon preventing people from getting poor, I'd applaud. Most likely those people gotten into habit of buying lottery prior to becoming poor. And as I said before, general lottery playing population becomes poorer every year. They as a group loose more, about 10% of their income every year, it is a lot more than inflation,  3%. So 10% add 3%= whooping 13% per year, impoverishment happens very fast over the years! WElcome to the world of homeless. In this light preventing poor people from playing lottery makes sense, although the measure is a bit too little, too late. The prevention should start earlier, when they are not poor yet. Thus, it has to be that only middle class and reach play lottery, or states have to abandon lottery and gambling completely! Again, as I said before, when the top sees how to rip the enormous buck, they will not stop at anything, including destroying their own country's population. So, folks, don't worry, they will not abandon lottery. Although, if they were smarter, they'd rely on creation of International lotteries, at least sparing a bit their own folk.

                            Globally, lottery and gambling is a bitch of the present time, it is silent war against simple people. No matter how well people do predictions, how much they divide the win among the winners, they have every year diminishing finances. Few that won big do not make weather, because their win came from everyone else's holly pocket. It is even shameful for the conscientious person to win big and keep it to themselves. I believe they should greatly invest into helping others.


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                              Applying effort to stop poor people from playing lottery... If the same effort was placed upon preventing people from getting poor, I'd applaud. Most likely those people gotten into habit of buying lottery prior to becoming poor. And as I said before, general lottery playing population becomes poorer every year. They as a group loose more, about 10% of their income every year, it is a lot more than inflation,  3%. So 10% add 3%= whooping 13% per year, impoverishment happens very fast over the years! WElcome to the world of homeless. In this light preventing poor people from playing lottery makes sense, although the measure is a bit too little, too late. The prevention should start earlier, when they are not poor yet. Thus, it has to be that only middle class and reach play lottery, or states have to abandon lottery and gambling completely! Again, as I said before, when the top sees how to rip the enormous buck, they will not stop at anything, including destroying their own country's population. So, folks, don't worry, they will not abandon lottery. Although, if they were smarter, they'd rely on creation of International lotteries, at least sparing a bit their own folk.

                              Globally, lottery and gambling is a bitch of the present time, it is silent war against simple people. No matter how well people do predictions, how much they divide the win among the winners, they have every year diminishing finances. Few that won big do not make weather, because their win came from everyone else's holly pocket. It is even shameful for the conscientious person to win big and keep it to themselves. I believe they should greatly invest into helping others.

                              Yeah what else can you spend a dollar on........or two now....... and hope and dream to get a return in the millions of dollars.....