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Posted: April 10, 2013, 11:43 pm - IP Logged

"If you had unblocked my posts sooner you might have noticed that the Massachusetts Cash Winfal game was brought up by RJOh as an example of a report of declining lottery returns."

I would never block RJ because he adds to any discussion and you're either flat out wrong about RJ bringing up "rates of return" or you are suffering from advanced senility.

RJ said:  "I was responding to your comment "I haven't seen any reports of declines in rates of return from any state lotteries either", it didn't include why there was a decline.

"didn't include why there was a decline" and it's not the first time you've were deceitful about what someone said and probably won't be the last.

You really ARE a stickler for the minutiae, especially when they detract from someone's real questions.

Apparently, you disagree with the point I was trying to make, that system players were having no effect on lottery commission returns.  So, for the record, what is your position on the question of the rates of return of state lottery commissions?  Would you say lottery commission returns have been declining, advancing, or holding their own?

Also, since you seemed concerned about the bad MONTH that KY had a while back, I've been wondering if you were able to find out how poorly some of our lotteries may have done on the DAY they were forced to pay out a record number of first tier prizes.

In the interest of moving forward here, I hope you'll give me a break if I happen to overlook or confuse one of the details.  I know you want to move ahead with your serious work of determining an optimal way to use previous draw information to make informed decisions for future draws.  Once you settle on an optimal solution, you'll be free to spend all of your working hours selecting numbers and filling out slips.  Actually, I often wonder why you devote so much time here trying to convince others that the handful of people posting with math backgrounds, like myself, are wrong. I purposely refrained from posting in several of these types of threads for as long as a week.  Result?  Not an "inch" of progress was made. 

I see you've been discussing these issues here for a little over 7 years, so maybe you're just getting a tad impatient.  Correct?


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    Apparently, you disagree with the point I was trying to make, that system players were having no effect on lottery commission returns.  So, for the record, what is your position on the question of the rates of return of state lottery commissions?  Would you say lottery commission returns have been declining, advancing, or holding their own?

    I wont bother reading the rest of the drivel in your post Jammy, but I distinctly remember that Stack already answered the question that you are now asked again. Perhaps some can copy and paste it for you from the previous page?

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      You really ARE a stickler for the minutiae, especially when they detract from someone's real questions.

      Apparently, you disagree with the point I was trying to make, that system players were having no effect on lottery commission returns.  So, for the record, what is your position on the question of the rates of return of state lottery commissions?  Would you say lottery commission returns have been declining, advancing, or holding their own?

      Also, since you seemed concerned about the bad MONTH that KY had a while back, I've been wondering if you were able to find out how poorly some of our lotteries may have done on the DAY they were forced to pay out a record number of first tier prizes.

      In the interest of moving forward here, I hope you'll give me a break if I happen to overlook or confuse one of the details.  I know you want to move ahead with your serious work of determining an optimal way to use previous draw information to make informed decisions for future draws.  Once you settle on an optimal solution, you'll be free to spend all of your working hours selecting numbers and filling out slips.  Actually, I often wonder why you devote so much time here trying to convince others that the handful of people posting with math backgrounds, like myself, are wrong. I purposely refrained from posting in several of these types of threads for as long as a week.  Result?  Not an "inch" of progress was made. 

      I see you've been discussing these issues here for a little over 7 years, so maybe you're just getting a tad impatient.  Correct?

      "You really ARE a stickler for the minutiae, especially when they detract from someone's real questions."

      That's because your questions are usually irrelevant to the topic.

      "So, for the record, what is your position on the question of the rates of return of state lottery commissions?"

      How can my opinion on the distribution of lottery profits help Ronnie decide if playing the recently drawn numbers is worthwhile?

      "Would you say lottery commission returns have been declining, advancing, or holding their own?"

      It would be more interesting and helpful if you answered a previous asked question. What is the probability of at least one of the other 21 numbers being drawn and has that specific group out preformed probability historically?

      "I see you've been discussing these issues here for a little over 7 years, so maybe you're just getting a tad impatient.  Correct?"

      I've discussed lottery and gaming related topics on LP for that long, but that doesn't include all the private discussions and considerably more discussion with other lottery players long before I joined LP. Why others have joined is none of my business and what they discuss is their choice. I joined after reading a discussion about online lottery sites paying $900 to 1 on pick-3 and $9000 to 1 on pick-4 because I wondered how the sites could payoff an unexpected large number of winning tickets. 

      If I'm impatient it's because of some the useless information I read and you post your fair share of it.


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        Posted: April 11, 2013, 7:21 pm - IP Logged

        Set of 35 for MM. Fri. Apr. 12, 2013. 

        03 04 07 08 09 10 11 12 14 15 17 19 20 21 22 23 25 27 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 40 41 46 47 48 49 51 53 54

        bonus ball 09


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          Posted: April 11, 2013, 7:26 pm - IP Logged

          The last number in the 35 recently drawn numbers is 35. I will key 35 in my wheel.

          Tuesday, April 09, 2013                        17 · 30 · 41 · 48 · 54    134$56 Million
          Friday, April 05, 201308 · 15 · 23 · 36 · 41    053$50 Million
          Tuesday, April 02, 201307 · 10 · 14 · 40 · 47    344$42 Million
          Friday, March 29, 201325 · 31 · 36 · 46 · 53    214$34 Million
          Tuesday, March 26, 201320 · 33 · 46 · 49 · 51    464$26 Million
          Friday, March 22, 201314 · 27 · 34 · 37 · 41    384$20 Million
          Tuesday, March 19, 201303 · 06 · 14 · 21 · 37    353$13 Million
          Friday, March 15, 201304 · 08 · 17 · 22 · 32    082$12 Million
          Tuesday, March 12, 201309 · 12 · 19 · 20 · 30    394$41 Million
          Friday, March 08, 201304 · 11 · 25 · 34 · 35    444$33 Million


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            Posted: April 11, 2013, 7:29 pm - IP Logged

            Set of 9 for MM 4 if 4 of 9 LP keyed wheel.

            Tuesday, April 09, 2013                17 · 30 · 41 · 48 · 54    134$56 Million
            Friday, April 05, 201308 · 15 · 23 · 36 · 41    053$50 Million
            Tuesday, April 02, 201307 · 10 · 14 · 40 · 47    344$42 Million
            Friday, March 29, 201325 · 31 · 36 · 46 · 53     214$34 Million
            Tuesday, March 26, 201320 · 33 · 46 · 49 · 51    464$26 Million
            Friday, March 22, 201314 · 27 · 34 · 37 · 41    384$20 Million
            Tuesday, March 19, 201303 · 06 · 14 · 21 · 37    353$13 Million
            Friday, March 15, 201304 · 08 · 17 · 22 · 32    082$12 Million
            Tuesday, March 12, 201309 · 12 · 19 · 20 · 30    394$41 Million
            Friday, March 08, 201304 · 11 · 25 · 34 · 35    444$33 Million


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              Posted: April 11, 2013, 7:39 pm - IP Logged

              Wheel:  Pick 5 Key 4 if 4 of 9

              Tickets:  14

              Description:  Minimum 4-number match, if 4 numbers drawn fall within your set of 9 numbers.

              Notes:  Highly balanced (Each non-Key number appears 7 times)

              Input:  35, 17, 36, 47, 53, 20, 21, 4, 30

              1. 04-17-35-36-47
              2. 17-20-35-36-53
              3. 17-21-30-35-36
              4. 17-21-35-47-53
              5. 17-20-30-35-47
              6. 04-17-30-35-53
              7. 04-17-20-21-35
              8. 30-35-36-47-53
              9. 20-21-35-36-47
              10. 04-21-35-36-53
              11. 04-20-30-35-36
              12. 04-20-35-47-53
              13. 04-21-30-35-47
              14. 20-21-30-35-53

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                Posted: April 11, 2013, 7:41 pm - IP Logged

                Wheel:  Pick 5 Key 4 if 4 of 9

                Tickets:  14

                Description:  Minimum 4-number match, if 4 numbers drawn fall within your set of 9 numbers.

                Notes:  Highly balanced (Each non-Key number appears 7 times)

                Input:  35, 17, 36, 47, 53, 20, 21, 4, 30

                1. 04-17-35-36-47
                2. 17-20-35-36-53
                3. 17-21-30-35-36
                4. 17-21-35-47-53
                5. 17-20-30-35-47
                6. 04-17-30-35-53
                7. 04-17-20-21-35
                8. 30-35-36-47-53
                9. 20-21-35-36-47
                10. 04-21-35-36-53
                11. 04-20-30-35-36
                12. 04-20-35-47-53
                13. 04-21-30-35-47
                14. 20-21-30-35-53

                Good luck Ronnie!

                CAN'T WIN IF YOU'RE NOT IN

                A DOLLAR AND A DREAM (OR $2)


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                  Posted: April 11, 2013, 7:45 pm - IP Logged

                  Good luck Ronnie!

                  Thanks rcbbuckeye, RL says 5 of 5 can be hit with 10-20 lines so I think my odds are very GOOD. Yes Nod


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                    Posted: April 11, 2013, 10:43 pm - IP Logged

                    "You really ARE a stickler for the minutiae, especially when they detract from someone's real questions."

                    That's because your questions are usually irrelevant to the topic.

                    "So, for the record, what is your position on the question of the rates of return of state lottery commissions?"

                    How can my opinion on the distribution of lottery profits help Ronnie decide if playing the recently drawn numbers is worthwhile?

                    "Would you say lottery commission returns have been declining, advancing, or holding their own?"

                    It would be more interesting and helpful if you answered a previous asked question. What is the probability of at least one of the other 21 numbers being drawn and has that specific group out preformed probability historically?

                    "I see you've been discussing these issues here for a little over 7 years, so maybe you're just getting a tad impatient.  Correct?"

                    I've discussed lottery and gaming related topics on LP for that long, but that doesn't include all the private discussions and considerably more discussion with other lottery players long before I joined LP. Why others have joined is none of my business and what they discuss is their choice. I joined after reading a discussion about online lottery sites paying $900 to 1 on pick-3 and $9000 to 1 on pick-4 because I wondered how the sites could payoff an unexpected large number of winning tickets. 

                    If I'm impatient it's because of some the useless information I read and you post your fair share of it.

                    Stack47,

                    "It would be more interesting and helpful if you answered a previous asked question. What is the probability of at least one of the other 21 numbers being drawn and has that specific group out preformed probability historically?"

                    It may be of interest to you, but to me, it's irrelevant.  Since you've brought this up at least twice, I'll bet you just can't wait to tell us the answer.  You're going to tell us about the probabilities dealing with your 21 discards and, more interestingly, the performance of certain groups of numbers over hundreds of draws in a game there the possibilities are in the millions.

                    If you must, go ahead.  Tell us what it is.

                    It's really kind of sad that after 7 years you're still struggling with the question of how many numbers you can safely discard before choosing your sets of 5.  Hopefully, one of these days it might occur to you that you can't discard ANY of them because the Gambler's Fallacy really is a fallacy, REALLY.

                    --Jimmy4164

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                      Posted: April 12, 2013, 12:33 am - IP Logged

                      Set of 35 for MM. Fri. Apr. 12, 2013. 

                      03 04 07 08 09 10 11 12 14 15 17 19 20 21 22 23 25 27 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 40 41 46 47 48 49 51 53 54

                      bonus ball 09

                      Eek wow that's alot of numbers you might hit one of them

                      Let it Snow Snowman


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                        Posted: April 12, 2013, 12:36 pm - IP Logged

                        Eek wow that's alot of numbers you might hit one of them

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                          Stack47,

                          "It would be more interesting and helpful if you answered a previous asked question. What is the probability of at least one of the other 21 numbers being drawn and has that specific group out preformed probability historically?"

                          It may be of interest to you, but to me, it's irrelevant.  Since you've brought this up at least twice, I'll bet you just can't wait to tell us the answer.  You're going to tell us about the probabilities dealing with your 21 discards and, more interestingly, the performance of certain groups of numbers over hundreds of draws in a game there the possibilities are in the millions.

                          If you must, go ahead.  Tell us what it is.

                          It's really kind of sad that after 7 years you're still struggling with the question of how many numbers you can safely discard before choosing your sets of 5.  Hopefully, one of these days it might occur to you that you can't discard ANY of them because the Gambler's Fallacy really is a fallacy, REALLY.

                          --Jimmy4164

                          the performance of certain groups of numbers over hundreds of draws in a game there the possibilities are in the millions.

                          Jammy is irrelevant. Its too bad he cant (in his lifetime) figure out that we are NOT playing "hundreds of draws" at a time, but rather just ONE at a time. Conditional bets give us BETTER ODDS on a SINGLE draw.

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                            Posted: April 12, 2013, 12:49 pm - IP Logged

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                            Let it Snow Snowman


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                              Posted: April 12, 2013, 12:53 pm - IP Logged

                              Eek wow that's alot of numbers you might hit one of them

                              ONE is the loneliest number that you'll ever do.................

                              (Dedicated to Jammy)

                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22QYriWAF-U 

                                 
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