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Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Apr 9, 2013
After reading this, it's starting to look like I should unblock Jimmy because I'm only seeing half the conversations. I'll have to ask what he means by "plan to retire" because I thought retirement is a given for anyone winning a multi-million jackpot.
Maybe he means we should join all the "how will you spend your millions" threads and stop discussing possibilities of actually winning and pretend like we did.
I unblocked Jammy just to see how long I can stand his demonic incantations. Every post he makes is full of subjective terms that can be twisted in 100 directions.
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Quote: Originally posted by jimmy4164 on Apr 7, 2013
I haven't seen any reports of declines in rates of return from any state lotteries either.
Have you?
And I unblocked him just in time to see an example of his fast advancing senility. Did you already forget we discussed the month where the KY Pick-3 game paid out 97% of their ticket sales in prizes?
I'm pretty sure any of your mathematics professors emeritus will tell you a 3% rate of return in a game with a 50% house edge is a decline; unless they are senile too.
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Quote: Originally posted by jimmy4164 on Apr 8, 2013
Stack47, your knowledge of the games is very impressive. Unfortunately, the answers to the questions you ask, along with $5, will get you no more than a snack at Starbucks.
RJOh, I guess I assumed too much when I assumed that at least one proverbial "half a brain" was functioning and knew that rates of return was implicit in my questions.
Ronnie316, no comment.
It appears none of you wants to comment on the fact that your selection methods had nothing to do with how syndicates won money in the Massachusetts Cash Winfal game while helping the lottery commission win MORE money. Figures.
As a consolation, maybe one of you might eventually enlighten us with how you plan to retire by "Playing recently drawn numbers to win a jackpot."
--Jimmy4164
"It appears none of you wants to comment on the fact that your selection methods had nothing to do with how syndicates won money in the Massachusetts Cash Winfal game while helping the lottery commission win MORE money."
It also appears nobody wants to comment on the chances of the Pittsburgh Pirates winning the World Series either. Start of a thread about the Pirates or the syndicate that wagered $40 million over seven years and won $8 million playing Cash Winfall. Talk about the Michigan man who benefited from the roll downs before the Michigan Lottery shut their version of Cash Winfall down and moved his operation to MA and won even more money.
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Stack47, If you had unblocked my posts sooner you might have noticed that the Massachusetts Cash Winfal game was brought up by RJOh as an example of a report of declining lottery returns. Massachusetts made more money than the syndicates as a result of the syndicates.
I really don't know how to help you understand what the outlier month in KY that you mentioned means in terms of Probability, ROI, or the long term solvency of the KY Lottery Commission. Perhaps you'd like to point out how poorly some of our lotteries do on the DAY they have to pay out a record number of first tier prizes.
Your problem is that your mind is too cluttered with short term minutiae which keeps you from seeing the big picture.
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Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Apr 9, 2013
"It appears none of you wants to comment on the fact that your selection methods had nothing to do with how syndicates won money in the Massachusetts Cash Winfal game while helping the lottery commission win MORE money."
It also appears nobody wants to comment on the chances of the Pittsburgh Pirates winning the World Series either. Start of a thread about the Pirates or the syndicate that wagered $40 million over seven years and won $8 million playing Cash Winfall. Talk about the Michigan man who benefited from the roll downs before the Michigan Lottery shut their version of Cash Winfall down and moved his operation to MA and won even more money.
I'll even give your thread a five star rating!
Lottery players are winners. Jammy does NOT play the lottery.
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Quote: Originally posted by jimmy4164 on Apr 9, 2013
Stack47, If you had unblocked my posts sooner you might have noticed that the Massachusetts Cash Winfal game was brought up by RJOh as an example of a report of declining lottery returns. Massachusetts made more money than the syndicates as a result of the syndicates.
I really don't know how to help you understand what the outlier month in KY that you mentioned means in terms of Probability, ROI, or the long term solvency of the KY Lottery Commission. Perhaps you'd like to point out how poorly some of our lotteries do on the DAY they have to pay out a record number of first tier prizes.
Your problem is that your mind is too cluttered with short term minutiae which keeps you from seeing the big picture.
"If you had unblocked my posts sooner you might have noticed that the Massachusetts Cash Winfal game was brought up by RJOh as an example of a report of declining lottery returns."
If RJ brought up Cash Winfall, it was an example of lottery games that are no longer played. He also mentioned Lot 'O Play.
"I really don't know how to help you understand what the outlier month in KY that you mentioned means in terms of Probability"
KY can't use probability to determine how many players will play and win on the same three digit number or how many of those players will play the same three digit number multiple times. At best they can say based on past results about how much will be wagered on any given three digit number.
"Your problem is"
This topic is about a group of 35 recently drawn numbers and not about the rate of return of defunct lottery games. I can easily solve the problem of reading posts by members who continually go off topic and then whine because nobody wants to discuss their off topic remarks; I can simply block their posts.
To get back on topic, the probability against any group of 35 numbers matching five numbers is 12 to 1 so the probability of the recently drawn 35 numbers is also 12 to 1. The historical results indicates a group of the 35 recently drawn numbers out performed the probability. What is the probability of at least one of the other 21 numbers being drawn and has that specific group out preformed probability historically?
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Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Apr 10, 2013
"If you had unblocked my posts sooner you might have noticed that the Massachusetts Cash Winfal game was brought up by RJOh as an example of a report of declining lottery returns."
If RJ brought up Cash Winfall, it was an example of lottery games that are no longer played. He also mentioned Lot 'O Play.
"I really don't know how to help you understand what the outlier month in KY that you mentioned means in terms of Probability"
KY can't use probability to determine how many players will play and win on the same three digit number or how many of those players will play the same three digit number multiple times. At best they can say based on past results about how much will be wagered on any given three digit number.
"Your problem is"
This topic is about a group of 35 recently drawn numbers and not about the rate of return of defunct lottery games. I can easily solve the problem of reading posts by members who continually go off topic and then whine because nobody wants to discuss their off topic remarks; I can simply block their posts.
To get back on topic, the probability against any group of 35 numbers matching five numbers is 12 to 1 so the probability of the recently drawn 35 numbers is also 12 to 1. The historical results indicates a group of the 35 recently drawn numbers out performed the probability. What is the probability of at least one of the other 21 numbers being drawn and has that specific group out preformed probability historically?
Good question Stack, perhaps Jammy is busy concocting an answer that is unrelated to lottery altogether?
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Quote: Originally posted by x1kosmic on Apr 10, 2013
Very Nice with the Key Number, also called, a "Banker"
I like the Key Number Wheels.
Thanks x, it sure does simplify things getting that one correct number. I liked the 17 but didn't end up using it. That 17 would have given my 3 of 5 out of 9 numbers. Humans CAN pick winning numbers, no matter what the Jammy's of this world have to say about it. Keep on pickin those winners.
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Quote: Originally posted by jimmy4164 on Apr 9, 2013
Stack47, If you had unblocked my posts sooner you might have noticed that the Massachusetts Cash Winfal game was brought up by RJOh as an example of a report of declining lottery returns. Massachusetts made more money than the syndicates as a result of the syndicates.
I really don't know how to help you understand what the outlier month in KY that you mentioned means in terms of Probability, ROI, or the long term solvency of the KY Lottery Commission. Perhaps you'd like to point out how poorly some of our lotteries do on the DAY they have to pay out a record number of first tier prizes.
Your problem is that your mind is too cluttered with short term minutiae which keeps you from seeing the big picture.
"If you had unblocked my posts sooner you might have noticed that the Massachusetts Cash Winfal game was brought up by RJOh as an example of a report of declining lottery returns."
I would never block RJ because he adds to any discussion and you're either flat out wrong about RJ bringing up "rates of return" or you are suffering from advanced senility.
RJ said: "I was responding to your comment "I haven't seen any reports of declines in rates of return from any state lotteries either", it didn't include why there was a decline."
"didn't include why there was a decline" and it's not the first time you've were deceitful about what someone said and probably won't be the last.