Welcome Guest
Log In | Register )
You last visited January 19, 2017, 2:04 pm
All times shown are
Eastern Time (GMT-5:00)

Playing recently drawn numbers to win a jackpot

Topic closed. 1046 replies. Last post 3 years ago by str8ca$hhomie.

Page 2 of 70
4.517
PrintE-mailLink
aux8b's avatar - home

United States
Member #57793
January 19, 2008
2367 Posts
Offline
Posted: March 30, 2013, 2:58 pm - IP Logged

 Cool   Good Luck  Cool

    BobP's avatar - bobp avatar.png
    Dump Water Florida
    United States
    Member #380
    June 5, 2002
    3112 Posts
    Offline
    Posted: March 31, 2013, 5:31 am - IP Logged


    When we look at how rarely a draw is all odd or all even or all low or all high, why would we think breaking the lottery numbers into roughly equal groups would have a different kind of outcome from any one group? 

    18 hot or most drawn numbers are going to bounce around zero, one or two of the future drawn numbers most of the time. 

    Would have to wheel say 6 hot, 6 average and 6 cold numbers to have a shot at winning something more then two number wins.

    BobP

      RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
      mid-Ohio
      United States
      Member #9
      March 24, 2001
      19900 Posts
      Offline
      Posted: March 31, 2013, 11:12 am - IP Logged


      When we look at how rarely a draw is all odd or all even or all low or all high, why would we think breaking the lottery numbers into roughly equal groups would have a different kind of outcome from any one group? 

      18 hot or most drawn numbers are going to bounce around zero, one or two of the future drawn numbers most of the time. 

      Would have to wheel say 6 hot, 6 average and 6 cold numbers to have a shot at winning something more then two number wins.

      BobP

      "When we look at how rarely a draw is all odd or all even or all low or all high, why would we think breaking the lottery numbers into roughly equal groups would have a different kind of outcome from any one group?"

      The key word is "look"

      We know all even or odd or low or high numbers are rare because can look at a draw file and count their occurrences.  For example I play Ohio Classic Lotto which has had 969 drawings so far and only 10-12 drawings fall within any of those categories which is less than 2%.  And when the same is done with the most popular numbers, the number is 14 which is not much better.

       * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
         
                   Evil Looking       

        sully16's avatar - sharan
        Ringleader
        Michigan
        United States
        Member #81740
        October 28, 2009
        42022 Posts
        Offline
        Posted: March 31, 2013, 11:18 am - IP Logged

        good luck everyone, any system is better then no system

         HyperBe Happy.


          United States
          Member #116268
          September 7, 2011
          20244 Posts
          Offline
          Posted: March 31, 2013, 2:24 pm - IP Logged

          "When we look at how rarely a draw is all odd or all even or all low or all high, why would we think breaking the lottery numbers into roughly equal groups would have a different kind of outcome from any one group?"

          The key word is "look"

          We know all even or odd or low or high numbers are rare because can look at a draw file and count their occurrences.  For example I play Ohio Classic Lotto which has had 969 drawings so far and only 10-12 drawings fall within any of those categories which is less than 2%.  And when the same is done with the most popular numbers, the number is 14 which is not much better.

          My perspective is, although rare it does happen. It's a lot easier to anticipate something your "looking" for. 

          There are examples of people who have done it, like the guy in AZ that bought the 5 number match six times trying to get the bonus number correct. All because he was "looking" for those numbers to hit.

            RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
            mid-Ohio
            United States
            Member #9
            March 24, 2001
            19900 Posts
            Offline
            Posted: March 31, 2013, 11:27 pm - IP Logged

            My perspective is, although rare it does happen. It's a lot easier to anticipate something your "looking" for. 

            There are examples of people who have done it, like the guy in AZ that bought the 5 number match six times trying to get the bonus number correct. All because he was "looking" for those numbers to hit.

            "My perspective is, although rare it does happen. It's a lot easier to anticipate something your "looking" for. "

            I Agree!  I'm always anticipating and looking forward to winning a jackpot.

             * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
               
                         Evil Looking       


              United States
              Member #116268
              September 7, 2011
              20244 Posts
              Offline
              Posted: April 1, 2013, 11:13 am - IP Logged

              "My perspective is, although rare it does happen. It's a lot easier to anticipate something your "looking" for. "

              I Agree!  I'm always anticipating and looking forward to winning a jackpot.

              Do you ever get a strong feeling that your numbers are right, and they hit?

                RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
                mid-Ohio
                United States
                Member #9
                March 24, 2001
                19900 Posts
                Offline
                Posted: April 1, 2013, 11:32 am - IP Logged

                Do you ever get a strong feeling that your numbers are right, and they hit?

                I'm a system player so I don't have any particular numbers to play.  I look for commonalities among winning combinations and apply them to the combinations I pick to play.

                 * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                   
                             Evil Looking       

                  Avatar
                  Kentucky
                  United States
                  Member #32652
                  February 14, 2006
                  7343 Posts
                  Offline
                  Posted: April 1, 2013, 11:51 am - IP Logged

                  I'm a system player so I don't have any particular numbers to play.  I look for commonalities among winning combinations and apply them to the combinations I pick to play.

                  Have you ever had the feeling the commonalities you're using are right and they will hit?

                  There really isn't much difference between playing favored numbers in combinations on 20 lines than playing 20 favored combos on 20 lines.

                    RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
                    mid-Ohio
                    United States
                    Member #9
                    March 24, 2001
                    19900 Posts
                    Offline
                    Posted: April 1, 2013, 12:26 pm - IP Logged

                    Have you ever had the feeling the commonalities you're using are right and they will hit?

                    There really isn't much difference between playing favored numbers in combinations on 20 lines than playing 20 favored combos on 20 lines.

                    "Have you ever had the feeling the commonalities you're using are right and they will hit?"

                    Yes, I always have that feeling.  I usually pick the 10-20 lines I play from a group of several hundred I generate which I write to a temporary file and I leave my system program setup until after the drawing.

                    After the drawing I check my play file to see if won anything and then I enter the winning combination into my system program to see if the commonalities I used could have picked it and check the temporary file to see if I picked it or something close and rejected it.   

                    So far this year my system has worked for the local Classic Lotto (5of6) but I have yet to get a decent win for PB and MM.

                     * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                       
                                 Evil Looking       

                      Avatar
                      Kentucky
                      United States
                      Member #32652
                      February 14, 2006
                      7343 Posts
                      Offline
                      Posted: April 1, 2013, 1:31 pm - IP Logged

                      Right now I'm using past 35 numbers. They hit 5 of 5 last year 17 times.

                      The probability is about 1 in 12 drawings that any 35 numbers should match five numbers or 9 times a year. We know there will be a group of 25 numbers that will match five number in five consecutive drawings every drawing and can use that with an observation by BobP on another thread that even if we used all 56 numbers once, only five of the lines can match at least one number or basically a 5/25 drawing.

                      In the last drawing only one number repeated from the "25" so the five winning numbers were found by using 1 of 25 with 4 of 31. Since the number 46 was a repeat number, that five number match was basically 1 of 5 with 4 of 31 and 167,307 less lines than are needed for a full 35 number wheel. To get your best 35 numbers depends on the average of how many numbers of the last 25 numbers are drawn. If the average is about 2 hits, 23 of those numbers are useless in your 35 numbers. If that's the average, to get a five number match using the last 35 numbers drawn, 3 of the numbers must be found in the sixth, seventh, and eighth drawing back.

                      Statistically something like that should happen once every 12 drawings and happened once every six drawings last year. A full wheel has 324,632 combinations, but you'll probably find when it did happen it was 2 or 3 of the first 20 numbers with 2 or 3 of the next 15 numbers and the winning combo is in those 206,150 lines. I reduced it to 119,700 combos by using any 3 of the first 20 numbers with any 2 of the next 15, but that is still too many lines. To reduce the number of combination, you really need to eliminate some of the 17 or 18 number from the first group and some of the 13 or 14 numbers from the second group.

                        RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
                        mid-Ohio
                        United States
                        Member #9
                        March 24, 2001
                        19900 Posts
                        Offline
                        Posted: April 1, 2013, 2:43 pm - IP Logged
                        As far as i know no MM or PB drawing has had all 5 numbers repeat at any time throught the games history.

                        That's true and it's true for MM even when you combine its history as BigGame. 

                        I tracked Buckeye5(5/37) when Ohio had it and I now track its Rolling Cash5(5/39) game and combinations of fives didn't start repeating in either game until after 0.1% of their possible combinations had been drawn so I expect the same to happen with PB after 5000 drawings and with MM after 3800 drawings.

                         * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                           
                                     Evil Looking       

                          JKING's avatar - Kaleidoscope 3.gif

                          United States
                          Member #5599
                          July 13, 2004
                          1192 Posts
                          Offline
                          Posted: April 2, 2013, 2:09 am - IP Logged

                          Where were the winners hidden? 36 and 53 were not on the board.

                          Friday, March 29, 2013            25 · 31 · 36 · 46 · 53    21            4$34 Million
                          Tuesday, March 26, 201320 · 33 · 46 · 49 · 51    464$26 Million
                          Friday, March 22, 201314 · 27 · 34 · 37 · 41    384$20 Million
                          Tuesday, March 19, 201303 · 06 · 14 · 21 · 37    353$13 Million
                          Friday, March 15, 201304 · 08 · 17 · 22 · 32    082$12 Million
                          Tuesday, March 12, 201309 · 12 · 19 · 20 · 30    394$41 Million
                          Friday, March 08, 201304 · 11 · 25 · 34 · 35    444$33 Million
                          Tuesday, March 05, 201306 · 20 · 39 · 41 · 46    423$26 Million
                          Friday, March 01, 201317 · 30 · 38 · 43 · 51    204$19 Million
                          Tuesday, February 26, 201306 · 07 · 13 · 15 · 43    074$13 Million
                          Friday, February 22, 201309 · 13 · 24 · 38 · 49    303$12 Million
                          Tuesday, February 19, 201301 · 15 · 19 · 30 · 56    283$26 Million
                          Friday, February 15, 201311 · 35 · 41 · 42 · 44    424$20 Million
                          Tuesday, February 12, 201309 · 22 · 32 · 38 · 55    443$13 Million
                          Friday, February 08, 201306 · 15 · 20 · 39 · 50    054$12 Million
                          Tuesday, February 05, 201302 · 05 · 10 · 26 · 44    464$19 Million
                          Friday, February 01, 201301 · 30 · 32 · 40 · 41    173$13 Million
                          Tuesday, January 29, 201308 · 12 · 27 · 46 · 47    063$12 Million
                          Friday, January 25, 201311 · 12 · 17 · 31 · 48    014$89 Million
                          Tuesday, January 22, 201307 · 11 · 16 · 39 · 54    133$80 Million
                          Friday, January 18, 201308 · 18 · 25 · 42 · 49    143$70 Million
                          Tuesday, January 15, 201301 · 06 · 12 · 19 · 41    144$62 Million
                          Friday, January 11, 201324 · 29 · 30 · 34 · 56    014$55 Million
                          Tuesday, January 08, 201303 · 20 · 21 · 38 · 42    194$47 Million
                          Friday, January 04, 201301 · 02 · 23 · 25 · 55    394$39 Million
                          Tuesday, January 01, 201304 · 11 · 21 · 25 · 44    294$30 Million

                          Nice observation.

                          All your 35 numbers will typically hit within the last 8 to 13 games, with some exceptions of course.

                          You are a slave to the choices you have made.  jk

                          Even a blind squirrel will occasioanlly find an acorn.


                            United States
                            Member #116268
                            September 7, 2011
                            20244 Posts
                            Offline
                            Posted: April 2, 2013, 11:01 am - IP Logged

                            Set of 35 for MM. Tue. Apr. 2, 2013.

                            01 03 04 06 07 08 09 11 12 13 14 15 17 19 20 22 24 25 27 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 41 43 46 49 51 53

                            bonus ball 03

                              x1kosmic's avatar - neptune vg2.gif

                              United States
                              Member #48046
                              December 7, 2006
                              1699 Posts
                              Offline
                              Posted: April 2, 2013, 1:33 pm - IP Logged

                                What's up, Ronnie316,

                                    I just wanted to visit, for a second,  I ve been reading along ...

                              and I picked 25, numbers from Past ( 35 or so ) Draws

                               disregarding, the first number,  and last number,  of each draw,

                                                   I picked numbers from the 'middle'

                              3, 5, 6, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 17, 18, 20, 22, 24, 27, 29, 30, 32, 34, 37, 38, 41, 42, 51, 53

                                                  25 numbers for Mega Millins, 4/2/13

                              I've noticed that bonus balls 42, and 44,  seem pretty good lately,  I'll try

                                                                                    44

                                 
                                Page 2 of 70