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# One way how I play Pick 4

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Hey Lottery Post,

Taking some time to share with you guys how I play Pick 4, once in awhile, and the methods I apply.

It's pretty simple, however it can sometimes be time consuming if you aren't focused.

Before we start, here is some important info you should learn:

S = SAME                                - = -1

M = MIRROR*                         + = +1

* These are mirrors:

0 = 5

1 = 6

2 = 7

3 = 8

4 = 9

Okay, these are the few basics. Now I'll show you guys how I do my workout.

I use the calendar and basically figure out what past winning numbers created today's evening number.

For example:

Today's evening draw in New York was 6522. I look at the calendar and see what past winning number(s) created today's 6522

 June, 2013 Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat 1 00181874 2 94473766 3 05300025 4 27225995 5 77683823 6 49058230 7 31357195 8 75516852 9 69996013 10 14836016 11 06816681 12 69276522

6522 played off 6/9 Eve 6013 (S/M/+/-), 6/8 Mid 7551 (M/S/+/+), and much more. There's a whole bunch.

Now that I'm seeing some connectors, these past winning numbers that created new winning numbers can have formulas applied to them, to create new winning numbers.

I also like to play week to week. For example: Wed. - Wed., Sun. - Sun., and so on. Here's an example:

Sun 6/2 9447 Midday created Sun 6/9 Midday 6999.

Here's what happened: 9447 (S/M/M/-) ---> 9996 Box.

So yeah, these are some methods I use to find new winning numbers. Some formulas that I like the most are these:

 +/-/S/M +/M/S/- M/+/S/- -/+/M/S -/S/M/+ S/-/M/+ M/S/+/- M/+/-/S +/M/-/S S/M/-/+ S/-/+/M -/S/+/M

Try it for your state. Apply some of the formulas above and create some new numbers. It's a preety neat method.

Hope you guys/gals enjoyed this piece of info. Good luck and WIN BIG!

If he is applying these formulas to actual lottery numbers, the result is only 12 numbers to play, because there are only 12 formulas.

You have to backtest to determine which draw on which day of the week, the following winning draws usually leverages off of. For example, in backtesting throughout the month, you are looking for consistent patterns.  If you notice that the midday and evening Pick 4 drawing on Saturdays, produces winning numbers the following week, then you would choose to apply the 12 formulas to Saturdays numbers, for a group of 12 numbers to play for the following week.  If you notice in backtesting that it normally takes 4 - 5 draws before winning numbers usually HIT, then you would not start playing the group of 12 numbers until at least 4 drawings have passed. Personally, I don't carry my numbers for more than 1 week, which would be 10 - 12 drawings, because it is not cost effective to do so. Numbers, if they don't hit,  should probably be changed after 5 days.

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OMG Ranman! You are a life saver! Thank you for creating the formulas through excel! It saves so much time!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you again!

Cajun, thanks for bringing up the topic!

@Destiny, that's correct! You have to back test and see what patterns are forming. In my case, I like to play the evening number into tomorrow's midday number. That's a trend NY develops some time..

Also... Sat likes to play to Sat. Mon, to mon. These are little trends to take note of. It's a good idea to make a file of numbers and keep a record of how today's number got created. I've been doing it but got soooo lazy and forgot about.

When I was doing it though, I was getting some wins and getting a lot of 1 off's. I need to perfect the system a bit better, though. The formulas work.... it's just a matter of correct applying of the formulas. I wish I knew someone who had the skill to predcit so intuilevly and help me and us out. Then, we'll see some good payouts with the Pick 4 game.

It's real easy to get rich on Pick 4... a \$20 straight bet brings home \$100,000 easily. It's just a matter of playing the right number at the right time. I'm still a young kid and my mind is always focused on other things, but if I could focus soely on playing the Win 4 like a master, I'll be making great money a month.

Sorry for my grammar and spelling guys.... I'm just real excited with Ranman's excel sheet.... I'm going back to my old way of playing again!

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Ranman, I don't know if this is any use, but if possible, can you make a drop box with all of the formulas? So when people start back testing.... they can use a fleet of formulas and choose one they feel is best that can create the next winning number. Here they are:

 +/B/S/S B/+/S/S S/S/+/B S/S/B/+ +/S/S/B B/S/S/+ S/+/B/S S/B/+/S S/+/S/B S/B/S/+ +/S/B/S B/S/+/S

 B/-/S/S -/B/S/S S/S/B/- S/S/-/B B/S/S/- -/S/S/B S/B/-/S S/-/B/S S/B/S/- S/-/S/B B/S/-/S -/S/B/S

 +/-/S/B +/B/S/- B/+/S/- -/+/B/S -/S/B/+ S/-/B/+ B/S/+/- B/+/-/S +/B/-/S S/B/-/+ S/-/+/B -/S/+/B

 +/+/B/S +/B/S/+ B/+/S/+ +/+/S/B +/S/B/+ S/+/B/+ B/S/+/+ B/+/+/S +/B/+/S S/B/+/+ S/+/+/B +/S/+/B

 -/-/B/S -/B/S/+ B/-/S/- -/-/S/B -/S/B/- S/-/B/- B/S/-/- B/-/-/S -/B/-/S S/B/-/- S/-/-/B -/S/-/B

 B/+/+/+ B/-/-/- +/B/+/+ -/B/-/- +/+/B/+ -/-/B/- +/+/+/B -/-/-/B

 B/+/+/- B/+/-/+ B/-/+/+ +/B/+/- +/B/-/+ -/B/+/+ +/+/B/- +/-/B/+ -/+/B/+ +/+/-/B +/-/+/B -/+/+/B

 B/-/-/+ B/-/+/- B/+/-/- -/B/-/+ -/B/+/- +/B/-/- -/-/B/+ +/-/B/- -/+/B/- -/-/+/B -/+/-/B +/-/-/B

 +/-/B/B +/B/B/- B/+/B/- -/+/B/B -/B/B/+ B/-/B/+ B/B/+/- B/+/-/B +/B/-/B B/B/-/+ B/-/+/B -/B/+/B

 B/B/S/S S/B/B/S S/S/B/B S/B/S/B B/S/S/B B/S/B/S

 S/B/B/- S/B/B/+ B/S/B/- B/S/B/+ B/B/-/S B/B/S/+ B/B/-/S B/B/+/S

 S/B/-/B S/-/B/B B/S/-/B -/S/B/B B/-/S/B -/B/S/B B/-/B/S -/B/B/S

 S/B/+/B S/+/B/B B/S/+/B +/S/B/B +/B/S/B B/+/S/B B/+/B/S +/B/B/S

 S/B/B/B B/S/B/B B/B/S/B B/B/B/S

 BBBB

 +/B/B/B -/B/B/B B/+/B/B B/-/B/B B/B/+/B B/B/-/B B/B/B/+ B/B/B/-

B stands for mirror.

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Ranman, I don't know if this is any use, but if possible, can you make a drop box with all of the formulas? So when people start back testing.... they can use a fleet of formulas and choose one they feel is best that can create the next winning number. Here they are:

 +/B/S/S B/+/S/S S/S/+/B S/S/B/+ +/S/S/B B/S/S/+ S/+/B/S S/B/+/S S/+/S/B S/B/S/+ +/S/B/S B/S/+/S

 B/-/S/S -/B/S/S S/S/B/- S/S/-/B B/S/S/- -/S/S/B S/B/-/S S/-/B/S S/B/S/- S/-/S/B B/S/-/S -/S/B/S

 +/-/S/B +/B/S/- B/+/S/- -/+/B/S -/S/B/+ S/-/B/+ B/S/+/- B/+/-/S +/B/-/S S/B/-/+ S/-/+/B -/S/+/B

 +/+/B/S +/B/S/+ B/+/S/+ +/+/S/B +/S/B/+ S/+/B/+ B/S/+/+ B/+/+/S +/B/+/S S/B/+/+ S/+/+/B +/S/+/B

 -/-/B/S -/B/S/+ B/-/S/- -/-/S/B -/S/B/- S/-/B/- B/S/-/- B/-/-/S -/B/-/S S/B/-/- S/-/-/B -/S/-/B

 B/+/+/+ B/-/-/- +/B/+/+ -/B/-/- +/+/B/+ -/-/B/- +/+/+/B -/-/-/B

 B/+/+/- B/+/-/+ B/-/+/+ +/B/+/- +/B/-/+ -/B/+/+ +/+/B/- +/-/B/+ -/+/B/+ +/+/-/B +/-/+/B -/+/+/B

 B/-/-/+ B/-/+/- B/+/-/- -/B/-/+ -/B/+/- +/B/-/- -/-/B/+ +/-/B/- -/+/B/- -/-/+/B -/+/-/B +/-/-/B

 +/-/B/B +/B/B/- B/+/B/- -/+/B/B -/B/B/+ B/-/B/+ B/B/+/- B/+/-/B +/B/-/B B/B/-/+ B/-/+/B -/B/+/B

 B/B/S/S S/B/B/S S/S/B/B S/B/S/B B/S/S/B B/S/B/S

 S/B/B/- S/B/B/+ B/S/B/- B/S/B/+ B/B/-/S B/B/S/+ B/B/-/S B/B/+/S

 S/B/-/B S/-/B/B B/S/-/B -/S/B/B B/-/S/B -/B/S/B B/-/B/S -/B/B/S

 S/B/+/B S/+/B/B B/S/+/B +/S/B/B +/B/S/B B/+/S/B B/+/B/S +/B/B/S

 S/B/B/B B/S/B/B B/B/S/B B/B/B/S

 BBBB

 +/B/B/B -/B/B/B B/+/B/B B/-/B/B B/B/+/B B/B/-/B B/B/B/+ B/B/B/-

B stands for mirror.

These are way TOO MANY formulas to work with [I counted 147 Formulas][The original 12 formulas was enough].  This would scare someone into NOT trying this strategy.  This would also take TOO long to Backtest properly throughout the month.  This list needs to be Narrowed Down to the formulas that work most often producing winning results for a particular state.

Pick 4 has to be cost efficient to play.  If you're playing more than a Pick 4 Vtrac string (16 numbers), you're probably losing money, especially if you're playing daily.

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Can u post for wisconsin pick 4 wat numbers would you play

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These are way TOO MANY formulas to work with [I counted 147 Formulas][The original 12 formulas was enough].  This would scare someone into NOT trying this strategy.  This would also take TOO long to Backtest properly throughout the month.  This list needs to be Narrowed Down to the formulas that work most often producing winning results for a particular state.

Pick 4 has to be cost efficient to play.  If you're playing more than a Pick 4 Vtrac string (16 numbers), you're probably losing money, especially if you're playing daily.

You're right Destiny. I agree... it is too much! The 12 were enough and that's why I only posted those. And to be honest, half of the others don't hit as often. I like your advice. I definitely like the ones that ranman used (the ones in my OP) because they frequently create new winning numbers.

The minus one as well. I'm gonna back test and post 3 formulas (3 sets)...Those are still a bunch but the ones that I post do create winning numbers. Just a matter of picking the right set of formulas. Only suggestion now, the perfect way and keen intution on what formula to use. How to make the calander your best friend

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You're right Destiny. I agree... it is too much! The 12 were enough and that's why I only posted those. And to be honest, half of the others don't hit as often. I like your advice. I definitely like the ones that ranman used (the ones in my OP) because they frequently create new winning numbers.

The minus one as well. I'm gonna back test and post 3 formulas (3 sets)...Those are still a bunch but the ones that I post do create winning numbers. Just a matter of picking the right set of formulas. Only suggestion now, the perfect way and keen intution on what formula to use. How to make the calander your best friend

These are the 3 sets I like the best, that oftenly produce winners throughout the months:

 +/-/S/B +/B/S/- B/+/S/- -/+/B/S -/S/B/+ S/-/B/+ B/S/+/- B/+/-/S +/B/-/S S/B/-/+ S/-/+/B -/S/+/B

 B/+/+/- B/+/-/+ B/-/+/+ +/B/+/- +/B/-/+ -/B/+/+ +/+/B/- +/-/B/+ -/+/B/+ +/+/-/B +/-/+/B -/+/+/B

 +/-/B/B +/B/B/- B/+/B/- -/+/B/B -/B/B/+ B/-/B/+ B/B/+/- B/+/-/B +/B/-/B B/B/-/+ B/-/+/B -/B/+/B

This one is good as well!:

 B/-/-/+ B/-/+/- B/+/-/- -/B/-/+ -/B/+/- +/B/-/- -/-/B/+ +/-/B/- -/+/B/- -/-/+/B -/+/-/B +/-/-/B
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Can u post for wisconsin pick 4 wat numbers would you play

Wis. is a hard state.. I think you guys have computerized drawings, I believe?

Anyways, I'd play these for the next 2 days, \$.50 box:

5060 - 9660 - 9020 - 9426  - 3666 - 3026 - 5466

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These are the 3 sets I like the best, that oftenly produce winners throughout the months:

 +/-/S/B +/B/S/- B/+/S/- -/+/B/S -/S/B/+ S/-/B/+ B/S/+/- B/+/-/S +/B/-/S S/B/-/+ S/-/+/B -/S/+/B

 B/+/+/- B/+/-/+ B/-/+/+ +/B/+/- +/B/-/+ -/B/+/+ +/+/B/- +/-/B/+ -/+/B/+ +/+/-/B +/-/+/B -/+/+/B

 +/-/B/B +/B/B/- B/+/B/- -/+/B/B -/B/B/+ B/-/B/+ B/B/+/- B/+/-/B +/B/-/B B/B/-/+ B/-/+/B -/B/+/B

This one is good as well!:

 B/-/-/+ B/-/+/- B/+/-/- -/B/-/+ -/B/+/- +/B/-/- -/-/B/+ +/-/B/- -/+/B/- -/-/+/B -/+/-/B +/-/-/B

Ranman, can you use these and plug them to excel, please? Thank you!

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just wanted to say thanks  New York for sharing and thanks ranman for programing this.

i just backtested and it did have a hit, also the rest i tested are all 3 numbers correct with missing one or mirroring one what can i do it catch that.?

 Enter   P4 # 0698 Sets 1593 1189 5797 9748 9649 0549 5607 5788 1188 0189 0503 9603

 18 0919 1103 19 3005 7997 20 1876 3478 21 3761 5266 22 6186 0365
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Wis. is a hard state.. I think you guys have computerized drawings, I believe?

Anyways, I'd play these for the next 2 days, \$.50 box:

5060 - 9660 - 9020 - 9426  - 3666 - 3026 - 5466

we have computerized drawings also, that shouldn't matter maybe should be better if anything it's all about probability

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Can you make an Excel Workout thingy lol for Wisconsin Pick4?

Computer 1 Draw State.

Add and Minus each set of numbers.

5000 0500 0050 0005 5500

5050 5005 0550 0505 0055

1000 0100 0010 0001 1100

1010 1001 0110 0101 0011

1011 1101 1110 1111

-5007=

0007 4507 4957 5002 0493

0043 0002 4457 4502 4952

+5007=

0007 5507 5057 5012 0507

0057 0012 5557 5512 5062

-5007=

4007 4907 4997 5006 3907

3997 4006 4897 4906 4996

+5007=

6007 5107 5017 5008 6107

6017 6008 5117 5108 5018

-5007=

3996 3906 3897 3896 <----win#box next day

+5007=

6018 6108 6117 6118

-----------------------------------------

-7398=

2398 6898 73487393 1898

2348 2393 6848 6893 7343

+7398=

2398 7898

7448 7403 2898

2448 2403 7948 7903

7453 <-----win#straight next day

-7398=

6398 7298 7388 7397 6298

6388 6397 7288 7297 7387

+7398=

8398 7498 7408 7399 8498

8408 8399 7508 7499 7409

-7398=

6387 6297 6288 6287

+7398=

8409 8499 8508 8509

------------------------------------------

-7453=

2453 6953 7403 7448 1953

2403 2448 6903 6948

7398<---yesterday's win#straight

+7453= 2453 7953 7503 7458 2953

2503 2458 8003 7958 7508

-7453=

6453 7353 7443 7452 6353

6443 6452

7343 7352 7442

+7453=

8453 7553 7463 7454 8553

8463 8454 7563 7554 7464

-7453= 6442 6352 6343 6342

+7453= 8464 8554 8563 8564

-------------------------------------------

-6713=

1713 6213 6663 6708 1213

1663 1708 6163 6208 6658

+6713= 1713 7213

6763 6718 2213 <----winning#straight 4days ago

1763 1718 7263 7218 6768

-6713=

5713 6613 6703 6702 5613

5703 5712 6603 6612 6702

+6713=

7713 6813 6723 6714 7813

7723 7714 6823 6814 6724

-6713= 5702 5612 5603 5602

+6713= 7724 7814 7823 7824

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Can you make an Excel Workout thingy lol for Wisconsin Pick4?

Computer 1 Draw State.

Add and Minus each set of numbers.

5000 0500 0050 0005 5500

5050 5005 0550 0505 0055

1000 0100 0010 0001 1100

1010 1001 0110 0101 0011

1011 1101 1110 1111

-5007=

0007 4507 4957 5002 0493

0043 0002 4457 4502 4952

+5007=

0007 5507 5057 5012 0507

0057 0012 5557 5512 5062

-5007=

4007 4907 4997 5006 3907

3997 4006 4897 4906 4996

+5007=

6007 5107 5017 5008 6107

6017 6008 5117 5108 5018

-5007=

3996 3906 3897 3896 <----win#box next day

+5007=

6018 6108 6117 6118

-----------------------------------------

-7398=

2398 6898 73487393 1898

2348 2393 6848 6893 7343

+7398=

2398 7898

7448 7403 2898

2448 2403 7948 7903

7453 <-----win#straight next day

-7398=

6398 7298 7388 7397 6298

6388 6397 7288 7297 7387

+7398=

8398 7498 7408 7399 8498

8408 8399 7508 7499 7409

-7398=

6387 6297 6288 6287

+7398=

8409 8499 8508 8509

------------------------------------------

-7453=

2453 6953 7403 7448 1953

2403 2448 6903 6948

7398<---yesterday's win#straight

+7453= 2453 7953 7503 7458 2953

2503 2458 8003 7958 7508

-7453=

6453 7353 7443 7452 6353

6443 6452

7343 7352 7442

+7453=

8453 7553 7463 7454 8553

8463 8454 7563 7554 7464

-7453= 6442 6352 6343 6342

+7453= 8464 8554 8563 8564

-------------------------------------------

-6713=

1713 6213 6663 6708 1213

1663 1708 6163 6208 6658

+6713= 1713 7213

6763 6718 2213 <----winning#straight 4days ago

1763 1718 7263 7218 6768

-6713=

5713 6613 6703 6702 5613

5703 5712 6603 6612 6702

+6713=

7713 6813 6723 6714 7813

7723 7714 6823 6814 6724

-6713= 5702 5612 5603 5602

+6713= 7724 7814 7823 7824

I was going to do this for you Nikki , but I have to admit , you lost me ..

Hopefully Ranman will understand what you want ..

Cause I sure dont understand at all.

Good Luck

Carlig

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I was going to do this for you Nikki , but I have to admit , you lost me ..

Hopefully Ranman will understand what you want ..

Cause I sure dont understand at all.

Good Luck

Carlig

Oh sorry!! lol

Looks a little sloppy cause I copy and pasted.

Whatever Pick4 numbers came like my example

the winning numbers were 5007.

I add (+5007) to each set of the first numbers the ones with the 5000, 0500 ect..

Then I subtract the winning number (-5007) from the same group of numbers.

Then do it all over again with the second set of numbers the ones that start off

with 1000 0100 ect... add +5007 and subtract -5007.

I just put a plus and minus sign in front of the winning number to keep track of

what I am doing.

Do you understand now?

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