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Should you win either jackpot: would you hesitate to write a check to fellow forumites?

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Posted: August 31, 2013, 3:09 pm - IP Logged

I think you can see the general consensus from your fellow forumites is that they would NOT write a check to nameless faceless people just because they happen to frequent the same online forum.

To try and claim false piety just because you say you'd not hesitate to write a check to someone in need following a disaster, well...let's just say, can we expect you, noise-gate, if you won a large JP, to empty the hundreds of millions in your account to write checks to all the people affected by Superstorm Sandy, the Midwest Floods, Oklahoma Tornadoes, Japan Tsunami, Haiti Earthquake, and so on?

Corerced charity is an ugly thing. It's in the same realm as all those parasites that prey on lottery JP winners, begging for money to help them out of their dire straits, just because they think the winner has money to give. The best thing about having or winning a lot of money is you have the power to say how it is used. Nobody should be telling you or coercing you into spending it way they think is right. People can choose to help others in the best way they feel is right.

This ill-conceived hypothetical did not smell right from the start, and now it's starting to stink. Sorry, gotta ding you bro. Move along, nothing to see here folks.
You are better than this NG.

Your response is hypocritical- especially with this remark of yours...
" People can choose to help others in the best way they feel is right"- live by those words & don't waste precious time with a rant.
This is a discussion not a debate. Its an opinion unless you think it is not and therefore tsunami's in Japan & other worldwide disasters should be thrown into the mix at which point you have lost your sense of direction.

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    call some one who cares

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      Posted: August 31, 2013, 3:54 pm - IP Logged

      call some one who cares

      ROFLROFLROFL

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        Your response is hypocritical- especially with this remark of yours...
        " People can choose to help others in the best way they feel is right"- live by those words & don't waste precious time with a rant.
        This is a discussion not a debate. Its an opinion unless you think it is not and therefore tsunami's in Japan & other worldwide disasters should be thrown into the mix at which point you have lost your sense of direction.

        I always lose my sense of direction when I'm stuck in the middle of a world wide disaster.

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          Posted: August 31, 2013, 3:56 pm - IP Logged

          I Agree! There are lots of ways people can get help without receiving a check in the mail. Once I give half my jackpot to my favorite charity I can be certain that I have done my share of helping people in need.

          Hurray!

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            ROFLROFLROFL

            I Agree!

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              Your response is hypocritical- especially with this remark of yours...
              " People can choose to help others in the best way they feel is right"- live by those words & don't waste precious time with a rant.
              This is a discussion not a debate. Its an opinion unless you think it is not and therefore tsunami's in Japan & other worldwide disasters should be thrown into the mix at which point you have lost your sense of direction.

              This is an international forum, and we do have LP forumites from Japan, like Anfang71. I'll bet he can tell you a lot about the devastation, displacement and recovery that still faces thousands there, not to mention the ongoing nuclear disaster facing the country, and the world.

              So I guess forumites cannot expect any check from you if they are not in the US? Got it.


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                I think you can see the general consensus from your fellow forumites is that they would NOT write a check to nameless faceless people just because they happen to frequent the same online forum.

                To try and claim false piety just because you say you'd not hesitate to write a check to someone in need following a disaster, well...let's just say, can we expect you, noise-gate, if you won a large JP, to empty the hundreds of millions in your account to write checks to all the people affected by Superstorm Sandy, the Midwest Floods, Oklahoma Tornadoes, Japan Tsunami, Haiti Earthquake, and so on?

                Corerced charity is an ugly thing. It's in the same realm as all those parasites that prey on lottery JP winners, begging for money to help them out of their dire straits, just because they think the winner has money to give. The best thing about having or winning a lot of money is you have the power to say how it is used. Nobody should be telling you or coercing you into spending it way they think is right. People can choose to help others in the best way they feel is right.

                This ill-conceived hypothetical did not smell right from the start, and now it's starting to stink. Sorry, gotta ding you bro. Move along, nothing to see here folks.
                You are better than this NG.

                I Agree! People who have a heart for helping others are ALREADY helping others no matter how much or how little they happen to have on hand. Judging people based on hypothetical BS is an act of futility.

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                  I always lose my sense of direction when I'm stuck in the middle of a world wide disaster.

                  Me too Ronnie.
                  Somehow along the way this topic went off the road that was paved with " good intentions". Consider that hoarding one's millions is foolishness, when persons like Bill Gates makes donations to worthwhile causes, its looked upon as a wonderful gesture yet if a member of this forum became a millionaire and wanted to help a fellow member of the forum who experienced a massive disaster- its termed coercion of others or worse.
                  You cannot take it with you. ..end of story.

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                    Posted: August 31, 2013, 4:16 pm - IP Logged

                    This is an international forum, and we do have LP forumites from Japan, like Anfang71. I'll bet he can tell you a lot about the devastation, displacement and recovery that still faces thousands there, not to mention the ongoing nuclear disaster facing the country, and the world.

                    So I guess forumites cannot expect any check from you if they are not in the US? Got it.

                    I don't know Anfang71- and the point you trying to make is so weak its on crutches.
                    Go in Peace.


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                      Posted: August 31, 2013, 4:22 pm - IP Logged

                      I offered to buy someones pool lottery tickets that were purchased for the wrong game. Would that count as benevolence on my part, or perhaps greed and a desire to capitalize off of someones mistake?

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                        Posted: August 31, 2013, 5:28 pm - IP Logged

                        If you were close, your story was legit, and you actually worked, i would have no problem helping out. It would'nt be free though. You would have to wash my cars or clean the pool.

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                          Word getting out & new people joining would impress Todd, but this has nothing to do with helping those who have suffered disaster and NEED help.its not like  one would say " Anyone here needing money here is my email address"
                          You smarter than this CT.

                          noise-gate,

                          And how many of those 'disasters' would be legitimate?

                          For one thing, degenerate gamblers looking to recover their losses would consider that a 'disaster'.

                          There's actually a website that teaches people how to write outlandish solicitation e-mails. If someone on this site won a jp and started handing out $$$$ the site would be pulverized with some of those creeps.

                          I think it was Artist77 who said she'd like to see a jp winner write a book about all the people that approached them trying to put the bite on them. Artist is right, that would be an interesting book.

                          Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                          Lep

                          There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.


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                            Posted: August 31, 2013, 6:23 pm - IP Logged

                            noise-gate,

                            And how many of those 'disasters' would be legitimate?

                            For one thing, degenerate gamblers looking to recover their losses would consider that a 'disaster'.

                            There's actually a website that teaches people how to write outlandish solicitation e-mails. If someone on this site won a jp and started handing out $$$$ the site would be pulverized with some of those creeps.

                            I think it was Artist77 who said she'd like to see a jp winner write a book about all the people that approached them trying to put the bite on them. Artist is right, that would be an interesting book.

                            I Agree! This thread was a bad idea from the start. The only place it can end up is people soliciting for money. I do think the book is a good idea, but it would take someone who is willing to field all the requests and even encourage them. Pedro Q has an FB page and no one ever posts there and he only has 46 likes.

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                              I Agree! This thread was a bad idea from the start. The only place it can end up is people soliciting for money. I do think the book is a good idea, but it would take someone who is willing to field all the requests and even encourage them. Pedro Q has an FB page and no one ever posts there and he only has 46 likes.

                              Its only bad to you because you do not agree with it. Least you forget- you have answered more than once to this thread, if it was so bad, why bother responding?Personally- l never respond to threads that do not appeal to me- but that's just me, not you.
                              Your shortsightedness betrays you.

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