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# RootSum & Shortsum tracking

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Park City, UT
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 Posted: April 19, 2014, 3:56 pm - IP Logged

I wrote some software for tracking the current skip counts for RootSums and Shortsums

Here is a picture of what the current skip counts for RootSums are for all the states sorted from longest out first on this date 04/19/2014.

Rootsum Chart (04/19/2014)

Here is a picture of what the current skip counts for ShortSums are for all the states sorted from longest out first on this data 04/19/2014.

Shortsum Chart (04/19/2014)

My question is for those that track RootSums or ShortSums you can see that RootSums and ShortSums can be out for along time and have a high variance.

So how do you make short-term decisions based on a filter that has a high variance?

Do you wait until the skip count gets above 50?

What was interesting when studying these charts is at the time of this posting 04/19/2019 the Tri-State combined had hit every shortsum in the last 10 draws.

Jimmy

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 Posted: April 19, 2014, 4:03 pm - IP Logged

Another good way to track is the last 10 roots.

I   f ound in Nm that hits come directly from the roots and mirrors of the roots.

For example

123

456

789

Roots 6,6,6  look for a 111  or combinations in the future.

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935  root 8

125          8

383           5

434            2

496             1

881              8

120            3

992          2

432            9

From t he draws 383 434 and 496 comes the Thursday result 125.

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 Posted: April 19, 2014, 6:41 pm - IP Logged

and have a high variance.

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Explain high variance...example?

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 Posted: April 19, 2014, 6:42 pm - IP Logged

I don't worry about short sums. But root sums I do. Look at yesterday's root sum, the root sum for today will be within 4 of it. About 75% of the time. Tracking on graph paper will determine if it's 4 above or 4 below yesterday's root sum. Just an observation...

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 Posted: April 19, 2014, 6:45 pm - IP Logged

I wrote some software for tracking the current skip counts for RootSums and Shortsums

Here is a picture of what the current skip counts for RootSums are for all the states sorted from longest out first on this date 04/19/2014.

Rootsum Chart (04/19/2014)

Here is a picture of what the current skip counts for ShortSums are for all the states sorted from longest out first on this data 04/19/2014.

Shortsum Chart (04/19/2014)

My question is for those that track RootSums or ShortSums you can see that RootSums and ShortSums can be out for along time and have a high variance.

So how do you make short-term decisions based on a filter that has a high variance?

Do you wait until the skip count gets above 50?

What was interesting when studying these charts is at the time of this posting 04/19/2019 the Tri-State combined had hit every shortsum in the last 10 draws.

Jimmy

Nice charts Jim

How about some CF, (conditional formatting) to contrast that skip 0 1 2 3, with the skip 30+?

Skips are skips, so I would focus on the smaller ones, and let the sleepers sleep.

If you chase a skip 50, and you get it, then what?

Keep chasing it?  What if the skip goes 50 and 50 again?

Waste of money.

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 Posted: April 19, 2014, 6:47 pm - IP Logged

and have a high variance.

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Explain high variance...example?

A measure of the dispersion of a set of data from its mean. The more spread apart the data, the higher the deviation. Standard deviation is calculated as the square root of variance. Anyone else using this tool for games ? I've been doing some research into Deviation Analysis is looks very promising for another tool in Lotto games.

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 Posted: April 19, 2014, 7:14 pm - IP Logged

Nice charts Jim

How about some CF, (conditional formatting) to contrast that skip 0 1 2 3, with the skip 30+?

Skips are skips, so I would focus on the smaller ones, and let the sleepers sleep.

If you chase a skip 50, and you get it, then what?

Keep chasing it?  What if the skip goes 50 and 50 again?

Waste of money.

I would probably just add a couple more columns that displayed the hottest 3 shortsums, and the coldest 3 shortsums for those not interested in what the actual skip count was and wanted to only make decisions on what was hot and what was cold.

I don't normally track shortsums, rootsums so that is why I initially asked this question.  I also normally don't chase sleepers of any kind but other people do so that is why I am trying to figure out their thought process?  Chasing sleepers by themselves does not seem like a good strategy without additional filters.

You can't see the full picture but TriStates Combined had a longest out Shortsum of 9 draws, and Kentucky has a longest out Shortsum of 53 draws so that is what I mean by high variance between different States.

Jimmy

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 Posted: April 19, 2014, 7:30 pm - IP Logged

I'm kinda of thinking that the sweet spot for a shortsum/rootsum to repeat is once it has skipped for 3 draws that there is 25% chance that it will repeat within the next 4 draws.  I think those should be the target shortsum/rootsum and not necessarily the hottest or coldest.  I will need to chart the hits like I did for doubles to be sure.  Will post something later on it, first I am going to create some pair charts.

Thanks for all the input !

Jimmy

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 Posted: April 19, 2014, 9:50 pm - IP Logged

Well that didn't take too long, added pair chart that shows the hottest 10 pairs based on last 20 draws, and coldest 10 pairs based on skip count.

Pair Chart (04/19/2014)

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 Posted: April 20, 2014, 1:06 pm - IP Logged

JJ, I think using the 2-digits, may be a better tracking tool.

 0,1 0,2 0,3 0,4 0,5 0,6 0,7 0,8 0,9 1,2 1,3 1,4 1,5 1,6 1,7 1,8 1,9 2,3 2,4 2,5 2,6 2,7 2,8 2,9 3,4 3,5 3,6 3,7 3,8 3,9 4,5 4,6 4,7 4,8 4,9 5,6 5,7 5,8 5,9 6,7 6,8 6,9 7,8 7,9 8,9
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 Posted: April 21, 2014, 3:31 am - IP Logged

Well that didn't take too long, added pair chart that shows the hottest 10 pairs based on last 20 draws, and coldest 10 pairs based on skip count.

Pair Chart (04/19/2014)

Jimmy

There were quite a few hits from the hottest 10 pairs today.  Being Sunday and Easter there were not as many drawings held.  Might be better to track between Monday and Saturday.

Georgia Evening on 04/20/2014 was 596 and pairs 59 and 56 were in the 10 hottest pairs list.

More tracking required but its a start.

Jimmy

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 Posted: April 22, 2014, 10:34 am - IP Logged

I wrote some software for tracking the current skip counts for RootSums and Shortsums

Here is a picture of what the current skip counts for RootSums are for all the states sorted from longest out first on this date 04/19/2014.

Rootsum Chart (04/19/2014)

Here is a picture of what the current skip counts for ShortSums are for all the states sorted from longest out first on this data 04/19/2014.

Shortsum Chart (04/19/2014)

My question is for those that track RootSums or ShortSums you can see that RootSums and ShortSums can be out for along time and have a high variance.

So how do you make short-term decisions based on a filter that has a high variance?

Do you wait until the skip count gets above 50?

What was interesting when studying these charts is at the time of this posting 04/19/2019 the Tri-State combined had hit every shortsum in the last 10 draws.

Jimmy

That's really cool, am taking a computor class, so far I do everything on paper, I will learn to use spreadsheets.

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 Posted: April 22, 2014, 10:36 am - IP Logged

I wrote some software for tracking the current skip counts for RootSums and Shortsums

Here is a picture of what the current skip counts for RootSums are for all the states sorted from longest out first on this date 04/19/2014.

Rootsum Chart (04/19/2014)

Here is a picture of what the current skip counts for ShortSums are for all the states sorted from longest out first on this data 04/19/2014.

Shortsum Chart (04/19/2014)

My question is for those that track RootSums or ShortSums you can see that RootSums and ShortSums can be out for along time and have a high variance.

So how do you make short-term decisions based on a filter that has a high variance?

Do you wait until the skip count gets above 50?

What was interesting when studying these charts is at the time of this posting 04/19/2019 the Tri-State combined had hit every shortsum in the last 10 draws.

Jimmy

I also like the way you have the different headers, you designed that?, I like it.

Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

For a lead role in a cage?

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I also like the way you have the different headers, you designed that?, I like it.

I agree with Sully16 this is awesome, probably took years to complete........... but excellent work

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 Posted: April 22, 2014, 11:14 am - IP Logged

can u please do example  and how long do you play the root sum thank u

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