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Any true Christians on this forum ?? can u love both GOD and LUST LOTTERY wins

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Posted: April 22, 2014, 2:22 pm - IP Logged

Well good luck with your study atomic dog.

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    David Repented- he was not a lying SOB, he took responsibility for his actions. Another thing to consider is that his adulterous affair had consequences, the child from that affair died. It also showed that no matter what our sin, we can be forgiven if we sincere- which David was.
    Peter denied Jesus- forgiven. King Manasseh filled Jerusalem with blood, had Isaiah decapitated- he was forgiven.  Finger pointing does not help.
    Repent...

    Under the Mosaic Law adultery was supposed to be penalized with death. (Leviticus 20: 10) There wasn't any amendments for repentance.

    David most certainly was a lying SOB. After he found out that Bathsheba was pregnant he failed at trying to get her husband to sleep with her. After that he had her husband killed and then he married her. He didn't repent until after Nathan approached him about the situation. Not that it should have mattered anyway.


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      Posted: April 22, 2014, 3:02 pm - IP Logged

      The only thing I need passed through the eye of a needle right now is a winning JP lottery ticket.

      (Or a fortune cookie with some winning numbers.)

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        Under the Mosaic Law adultery was supposed to be penalized with death. (Leviticus 20: 10) There wasn't any amendments for repentance.

        David most certainly was a lying SOB. After he found out that Bathsheba was pregnant he failed at trying to get her husband to sleep with her. After that he had her husband killed and then he married her. He didn't repent until after Nathan approached him about the situation. Not that it should have mattered anyway.

        David was not a lying SOB,  why? Because when his sin was exposed by Nathan,  he admitted, he was deceitful yes, but not a liar.You getting the two confused. Another thing,  God had promised his Father that through David's line , the Messiah would come-
        If David was put to death how would that have been possible since he had no heir at the time?
        Your response would be?
        By the way King  Solomon's Mother was Bath Sheba who had married David after all.


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          David was not a lying SOB,  why? Because when his sin was exposed by Nathan,  he admitted, he was deceitful yes, but not a liar.You getting the two confused. Another thing,  God had promised his Father that through David's line , the Messiah would come-
          If David was put to death how would that have been possible since he had no heir at the time?
          Your response would be?
          By the way King  Solomon's Mother was Bath Sheba who had married David after all.

          maybe he was not a SOB but a SOW?

          Are you sure of this admission?

          Where you a witness?

          And was God typing on his typewriter too?

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            True Christian here!

            I personally do not play the lottery or play the numbers that I post here.

            I actually use this forum to test mathematics theories and methods of probability against randomness (a.k.a. lottery draws).  Once I have something perfected, I may start playing for the benefit of God's people.  Until then, I serve God by using my talents in the realm of mathematical theory.

            Is this sinful?  If so, I ask God for great forgiveness.

             

            Last week, a woman came to my door and asked if I found Jesus.  I naturally responded, "I didn't know that he was lost.  Has he found you?"  Hopefully he can make his way around to your door as well.

             

            Good luck!  Pray that my theories finally come to a revelation for us all!  Conehead

            Good Work *Atomic Dog

            First dictum inscribed on the cornerstone of the Trmple of Apollo said of the wise & prophetic Sybil of Delphi and the same oracle later reprsented among the Hebraic icons by Michelangelo's Sistein Chapel, Rome is:

            "KNOW THYSELF"

             

            *Bye the bye here @ gambling ground zero was the first Atomic Test atmospheric site 



            Fortuna

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              David was not a lying SOB,  why? Because when his sin was exposed by Nathan,  he admitted, he was deceitful yes, but not a liar.You getting the two confused. Another thing,  God had promised his Father that through David's line , the Messiah would come-
              If David was put to death how would that have been possible since he had no heir at the time?
              Your response would be?
              By the way King  Solomon's Mother was Bath Sheba who had married David after all.

              I guess you are right I shouldn't call David a lying SOB. Perhaps I should call him a deceitful SOB? Or maybe just a regular SOB? It seems that being part of the line of Jesus was a get out of jail free card. I didn't think God is supposed to be partial, but I guess he painted himself into a corner on that one. (Deuteronomy 10: 17) Maybe God isn't omnipotent an omniscient. It seemed to work out fairly well for Solomon too. He had 700 wives! I know that God allowed polygamy back then but it sounds like Solomon was kind of greedy

              And I did mention that David married Bathsheba after he had her first husband killed.


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                I guess you are right I shouldn't call David a lying SOB. Perhaps I should call him a deceitful SOB? Or maybe just a regular SOB? It seems that being part of the line of Jesus was a get out of jail free card. I didn't think God is supposed to be partial, but I guess he painted himself into a corner on that one. (Deuteronomy 10: 17) Maybe God isn't omnipotent an omniscient. It seemed to work out fairly well for Solomon too. He had 700 wives! I know that God allowed polygamy back then but it sounds like Solomon was kind of greedy

                And I did mention that David married Bathsheba after he had her first husband killed.

                There is no way David had 700 wives.

                They didn't have KY back then.

                He would have chafed to death.

                Not that that would have been a bad death.

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                  Posted: April 24, 2014, 12:05 pm - IP Logged

                  I am a Christian, I love God with all my heart, soul and mind I do not put winning the lottery before God if it happens then I will give God all the glory.

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                    There is no such a thing as a true Christian; it doesn't exist.  All some way or another violate the laws of Christ.  Playing the lottery is one of their violations.

                    "Understand... people are more complicated than the masks they wear in society... everyone is playing to win, and some people will use moral justifications to advance their side"

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                      There is no such a thing as a true Christian; it doesn't exist.  All some way or another violate the laws of Christ.  Playing the lottery is one of their violations.

                      So you set the whole thread up as a trick question to broadcast your misguided opinion. Nice. 

                      Your mind may already be made up - and very narrow - but if you want to play "Who's the Christian?" it can get very interesting.

                      Try this - one person is out in public doing 'works' and promoting a social gospel and mentioning their chucrch every chance they get. Another is also a believer who knows scripture says, "Your works are as filthy rags."

                      A similar game is "Who's the soldier?"  - try this one......... an Army veteran was in the infantry in Viet Nam. A co-worker of his was a Marins Reservist finance clerk stationed in Kansas City. The guy stationed in KC satys, "Bit I was a Marine."

                      Who's the soldier?

                      We could play either one of these all day long but since your mins is already made up it would be like telling a hair raising story to a bald headed man.

                      Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                      Lep

                      There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                        It's easy to take one verse out of context and make it fit a specific ideology.  Matthew 19:24 does not condemn being rich, but it does condemn letting riches rule one's life.  When Jesus was talking to the young rich man, he was trying to tell him that he must be willing to give up everything for him and he used his wealth as an example, but it could have been anything that the young man was too attached to.  It can be a metaphor for anything, we are not to put our faith in money or people or material objects; we are to put our faith in Christ for salvation.  That is what it means to be a "true" Christian, trusting in Christ for our salvation. 

                        This is why in 1 Timothy 6:17-19, it says to not put your trust in money, but to trust in God and to use one's wealth for good by helping those in need. 

                        Also, one must take into account that there were many people in the bible that God gave wealth to.  God gave Job wealth after testing him, King Solomon was given wealth and wisdom, as well as King David.  Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob were given wealth. 

                        Wealth, in and of itself, is not a bad thing, but you can't make it your god.  If you use it for it's main purpose, as a resource to live and to help others, then it won't be a hinderance in one's Christian walk.

                        amen

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                          There is no such a thing as a true Christian; it doesn't exist.  All some way or another violate the laws of Christ.  Playing the lottery is one of their violations.

                          Yes there is his Name Is JESUS!!!!!!!!!

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                            Yes there is his Name Is JESUS!!!!!!!!!

                            I Agree!

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                              Posted: April 25, 2014, 10:01 am - IP Logged

                              Any numbers for Ky today.