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Posted: August 4, 2014, 12:34 am - IP Logged

What am I missing here?

 

The ability to understand basic concepts and logic.

Well, onlymoney  you did miss that question for ya up there?  ....... the one that just might help us help you.

You could explain your perspective for such things. 

         Really, do you feel that combining Midday and Evening Draws is best .....and why or why not?

 That's a pretty good question for understanding your thinking on these and a good place to start. 

 

 

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                              Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                              Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                       Win d    

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    Good morning awesome friends here at LotteryPost. May well all win tens of thousands of dollars this week..

    Positive thinking = Positive winning

    my name Lil Darryl   you got some Milk

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      I see some really, really great replies here regarding the pre/post-test draws. onlymoney, you're right on point with car starter analysis and I've used the exact same analogy in past posts about this very topic. Naive players simply cannot understand the true concept of why states do this...and this means they really don't grasp the game in my opinion. EdessaKnight also had a very good contribution with the very details of 'why' so many tests are conducted. This game isn't hard to play and win...we're only dealing with 0-9 and odd/even combinations based on positions. Is it easy to predict the outcome of a future draw? ABSOLUTELY...with PATIENCE. Sure, the pre/post-tests are there to throw a wrench in the plan under the guise of fairness and all that BS but, those people know that the numbers can only do so much.

      The patterns are there even with tests factored in. I've said in the past that I didn't like the tests because they disrupt what would normally happen from one 'clean' draw to the very next...no tests in between and I have proof of this. Pre/post-test simply put the last combination right back into the fold making it susceptible to being drawn again whether by single digit, pairs, or the entire combination which I've see many times. This type of thing has the absolute slimmest odds of occurring from one clean draw to the next. Anyone that cannot understand this should really and seriously re-evaluate their knowledge and approach to the game. Pre-tests are meant to be a distraction in my honest opinion, and, that distraction can actually be your friend if you're not greedy.

       

      L.L.

      Small games, frequent wins, and regular payouts 'cause.....

      There are seven days in the week...'Someday' isn't one of them.

      #lotto-4-a-living

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        Posted: August 4, 2014, 12:06 pm - IP Logged

                                                            Please understand .....it's all ODDS.  No matter what ..........it's the ODDS.

                                                                          In all games everywhere around the World.......it really is.... ODDS. 

                                                                                                        Follow the ODDS

             Guess what?

           If you just took every 20th draw and recorded it only ...skipping all the draws in between you would get the same results! Do this 365 times .......and you will get the same results as a normal game. Yes , the same. 

                            ALL over the world since man invented math....and other men dropped out of ...."CAVE School Math" and became....players!  LOL 

          The first thing the "HOUSE" does when they start a new game is what ??  HIRE a bunch of MATH and Statistical Experts to do what ?  Run the numbers ....run the ODDS that's what. If the odds don't work then they don't play. Period.

           The people that run these games all over the WORLD know what's important .........because they hire the best minds in the World to work the ODDS first. 

         

          ALL gambling games ...all games of "chance"  ......... ALL games run for profit$$ around the world are based on the ODDS. 

         

                                If you don't use the ODDS back at them .....your LUCK will eventually end! 

         

         P.S.

          Did you know that pick3 odds and pay offs are about 17 times worse than a ....slot machine?

          Pick 3 has worse odds than the "vertical wheel" in Vegas. Known by Casinos as the ...."Suckers Wheel" 

          The only people that should play .....pick 3 ...are people with Don Quixote complexes. LOL 

         

         

        The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                      Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                      Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                               Win d    

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          Posted: August 4, 2014, 12:35 pm - IP Logged

                                                              Please understand .....it's all ODDS.  No matter what ..........it's the ODDS.

                                                                            In all games everywhere around the World.......it really is.... ODDS. 

                                                                                                          Follow the ODDS

               Guess what?

             If you just took every 20th draw and recorded it only ...skipping all the draws in between you would get the same results! Do this 365 times .......and you will get the same results as a normal game. Yes , the same. 

                              ALL over the world since man invented math....and other men dropped out of ...."CAVE School Math" and became....players!  LOL 

            The first thing the "HOUSE" does when they start a new game is what ??  HIRE a bunch of MATH and Statistical Experts to do what ?  Run the numbers ....run the ODDS that's what. If the odds don't work then they don't play. Period.

             The people that run these games all over the WORLD know what's important .........because they hire the best minds in the World to work the ODDS first. 

           

            ALL gambling games ...all games of "chance"  ......... ALL games run for profit$$ around the world are based on the ODDS. 

           

                                  If you don't use the ODDS back at them .....your LUCK will eventually end! 

           

           P.S.

            Did you know that pick3 odds and pay offs are about 17 times worse than a ....slot machine?

            Pick 3 has worse odds than the "vertical wheel" in Vegas. Known by Casinos as the ...."Suckers Wheel" 

            The only people that should play .....pick 3 ...are people with Don Quixote complexes. LOL 

          Great post, WinD.  I'm with you on every point. Smile I Agree!

          If I can add to it though....

          Pick a band of 20 non-doubles boxes, say, for the D3.

          What are the odds of the next play coming up with one of those numbers?... "Odds" are at play, in such a situation.  Iffy odds.

          Change the question. What are the odds of a number from that pool coming up ever again?... Suddenly, "odds" are no longer at play. Because unless a meteor hits the Earth, or they outlaw the game tomorrow... 20 out of 120 boxes = 17% of the pool... it is simply impossible that, given a few days, a few weeks, months, years...  one of those numbers won't come up.

          So, the answer to the second question is: 100%. Guaranteed.

          So how do you discover those 100% situations?...

          One of the "mystical secrets" I'm learning about this game, is that: it's not about chasing what.  It's about where, and when.

          Wink

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            I agree with whole ODDS deal but, I'm seeing where that concept is being misapplied altogether. With respect to the numbers I see here, and, the overall approach, I believe there's a much simpler and user friendly way to decide a particular outcome. And, it doesn't take near the time to see it. Okay, I'll continue paying attention and learning now. Approve

             

            L.L.

            Small games, frequent wins, and regular payouts 'cause.....

            There are seven days in the week...'Someday' isn't one of them.

            #lotto-4-a-living

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                                                                  Please understand .....it's all ODDS.  No matter what ..........it's the ODDS.

                                                                                In all games everywhere around the World.......it really is.... ODDS. 

                                                                                                              Follow the ODDS

                   Guess what?

                 If you just took every 20th draw and recorded it only ...skipping all the draws in between you would get the same results! Do this 365 times .......and you will get the same results as a normal game. Yes , the same. 

                                  ALL over the world since man invented math....and other men dropped out of ...."CAVE School Math" and became....players!  LOL 

                The first thing the "HOUSE" does when they start a new game is what ??  HIRE a bunch of MATH and Statistical Experts to do what ?  Run the numbers ....run the ODDS that's what. If the odds don't work then they don't play. Period.

                 The people that run these games all over the WORLD know what's important .........because they hire the best minds in the World to work the ODDS first. 

               

                ALL gambling games ...all games of "chance"  ......... ALL games run for profit$$ around the world are based on the ODDS. 

               

                                      If you don't use the ODDS back at them .....your LUCK will eventually end! 

               

               P.S.

                Did you know that pick3 odds and pay offs are about 17 times worse than a ....slot machine?

                Pick 3 has worse odds than the "vertical wheel" in Vegas. Known by Casinos as the ...."Suckers Wheel" 

                The only people that should play .....pick 3 ...are people with Don Quixote complexes. LOL 

              I think ODDS , when explained in strategy-wise will be more appealing, mathematics are facts and facts can  be intimidating. I have this approach about  ODDS> odds in favor and odds against, their just the flip side of a coin. Let say on every 100 draws of P4 , my success is just 20, then my odds in favor 20/80 and against will be 80/20, then my strategy will be towards 20/80.  Probability is a fluid concept, depending on DATA , it can be adjusted ( Bayesian -priors) when updating, these also changes the concept of ODDS, without negating mathematical fact-( eg the CPU of computer is precise, but is also stupid when fed wrong input). For normal random distribution (P3), varie odds are facts from PRIOR  perspective, what about interpreting /inferring  a data without probability but using a parameter  for  CONFIDENCE interval (more along extrapolation of data). I think folks  in denial of mathematical facts should not be ridiculed, most folks are using it inadvertently!

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                I think ODDS , when explained in strategy-wise will be more appealing, mathematics are facts and facts can  be intimidating. I have this approach about  ODDS> odds in favor and odds against, their just the flip side of a coin. Let say on every 100 draws of P4 , my success is just 20, then my odds in favor 20/80 and against will be 80/20, then my strategy will be towards 20/80.  Probability is a fluid concept, depending on DATA , it can be adjusted ( Bayesian -priors) when updating, these also changes the concept of ODDS, without negating mathematical fact-( eg the CPU of computer is precise, but is also stupid when fed wrong input). For normal random distribution (P3), varie odds are facts from PRIOR  perspective, what about interpreting /inferring  a data without probability but using a parameter  for  CONFIDENCE interval (more along extrapolation of data). I think folks  in denial of mathematical facts should not be ridiculed, most folks are using it inadvertently!

                Drawing DatePick 3Pick 4
                MiddayEveningMiddayEvening
                Mon, Aug 4, 20148-3-96-7-8-5
                Sun, Aug 3, 20149-2-45-9-00-4-6-56-1-7-1
                Sat, Aug 2, 20145-4-30-3-83-8-8-39-7-8-4
                Fri, Aug 1, 20145-9-70-5-80-1-5-89-3-1-2
                Thu, Jul 31, 20140-1-82-3-43-6-1-71-0-3-8
                Wed, Jul 30, 20146-6-43-9-38-1-1-12-9-5-8
                Tue, Jul 29, 20149-9-36-4-44-4-4-17-9-2-7
                Mon, Jul 28, 20147-8-05-3-10-9-8-20-2-2-1
                Sun, Jul 27, 20147-1-77-1-36-4-5-20-7-4-3
                Sat, Jul 26, 20142-1-27-9-69-7-7-96-3-0-1

                Drws   key                 Pair

                212  - -819------       81-89

                796--- 057-----------05-07

                717---- 085-----------08-05

                713----081-----------08-01

                780  -- 058                05-08

                531----781                78-71 

                993----058                05-08

                644----746                74-76

                664--- 746                 74-76

                393----801                 80-81

                018- --810                 81-80

                234----817                 81-87

                597----705                 70-75

                058----870-------------87-80

                543----748--------------74-78

                038-----810-------------81-80

                924-----087------------08-07

                590----708-------------70-78

                839---085  -------------08-05

                 

                How does ODDS factor in here, considering PAIR PARAMETER?, can one safely say  4 odds in favor out of 18  trials?, what about the third  pair left-out , does recurrent pairs  tells me adjust or keep to known historical facts about pairs when my data is  Extrapolated?-Imagine the Linear transformation of points on whatever  dimension, you can scale the points for workability or convenience (odds is just the same)

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                  If you are using a system that looks for imperfections or flaws in your state lottery system to make money,  you will never make money...

                   

                  The reason why you've won in Past is because its either 3 or 4  machines with only 10 balls in each. 

                  And every number has equal chance of being drawed.    When you win. Its your time..

                   

                  No 1 can predict the future.   

                   

                  State lotteries are .as perfectly ran as it can get. 

                   

                  They are monitored for balanced and fair play

                  I do not believe this, it's your belief not mine !

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                    Drawing DatePick 3Pick 4
                    MiddayEveningMiddayEvening
                    Mon, Aug 4, 20148-3-96-7-8-5
                    Sun, Aug 3, 20149-2-45-9-00-4-6-56-1-7-1
                    Sat, Aug 2, 20145-4-30-3-83-8-8-39-7-8-4
                    Fri, Aug 1, 20145-9-70-5-80-1-5-89-3-1-2
                    Thu, Jul 31, 20140-1-82-3-43-6-1-71-0-3-8
                    Wed, Jul 30, 20146-6-43-9-38-1-1-12-9-5-8
                    Tue, Jul 29, 20149-9-36-4-44-4-4-17-9-2-7
                    Mon, Jul 28, 20147-8-05-3-10-9-8-20-2-2-1
                    Sun, Jul 27, 20147-1-77-1-36-4-5-20-7-4-3
                    Sat, Jul 26, 20142-1-27-9-69-7-7-96-3-0-1

                    Drws   key                 Pair

                    212  - -819------       81-89

                    796--- 057-----------05-07

                    717---- 085-----------08-05

                    713----081-----------08-01

                    780  -- 058                05-08

                    531----781                78-71 

                    993----058                05-08

                    644----746                74-76

                    664--- 746                 74-76

                    393----801                 80-81

                    018- --810                 81-80

                    234----817                 81-87

                    597----705                 70-75

                    058----870-------------87-80

                    543----748--------------74-78

                    038-----810-------------81-80

                    924-----087------------08-07

                    590----708-------------70-78

                    839---085  -------------08-05

                     

                    How does ODDS factor in here, considering PAIR PARAMETER?, can one safely say  4 odds in favor out of 18  trials?, what about the third  pair left-out , does recurrent pairs  tells me adjust or keep to known historical facts about pairs when my data is  Extrapolated?-Imagine the Linear transformation of points on whatever  dimension, you can scale the points for workability or convenience (odds is just the same)

                    Lets see odds for P4 triads(distinct) considering on the drive digits (extrapolating data)

                    Draw             key                filter                                    drive         hit   

                    9779----    10-45-45-10       979        104510--1045         1,0           0158,0465

                    6301 ------39-62-81-67        6301      9287---                   9,2        0982,9784 

                    6452 -----39-93-10-37        6452      39931037--39107--    3,9    0743,3617     1038,9312         

                    0743--      81-45-93-65       0743     815965---81596          8,1     2958,0158,         

                    0982         81-10-23-37       0982    11337----137              1,3      3617 ,   

                    0221  ----  81-37-37-67      021       8373767--8376          8,3      3617   

                    4441----     39-39-39-67     41        39393967-3967          3,9     3617

                    7927---     45-10-37-45     792       4510345---45103        4,5     0158,0465

                    8111-        23-67-67-67      81       23676767--2367         2,3     3617,

                    2958          37-10-10-23-   2958    3710103---3710        3,7       3617

                    3617          62-39-67-45    3617     2945---                    2,9

                    1038          67-81-62-23    1038     67622--672              6,7

                    0158          81-67-10-23     0158    6723                        6,7 

                    9312          10-62-67-37    9312    06677-067                      0,6

                    3883          62-23-23-62   38        622262-622-662

                     

                    For complete  normal distribution for P4 , your odds for a distinct  box hit is 1/417,  so 15 trials will not make a dent, do I need say, 500 trials to make informed decision? From the above snap test, I can't say  I had 4 success  out 15 in my favor, because there is a Time Frame to adhere to, there are trends evolving as I progress with workout (highlighted in bold colors), this should or may change the odds strategy-wise  (odds 1/417 still remains a fact), why? scaled down data  decreases my odds further, but I have the advantage of PRIZE RATIO. Looking at the above workout, DRIVES is all you need  to form effective triads, hence reduced picks.

                     

                      NB> keys are not historical- based, rather simulation by extrapolation.