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Would you be inclined to give a Panhandler a few $$ should you hit it Big?

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Posted: June 24, 2015, 12:36 pm - IP Logged

 Or is it against your very nature to do so at present?

 Or Perhaps you could look on your good fortune as " giving back to the community" in a small way? After all- Panhandlers are here to stay.

I ran into one a few month's back and the funny thing is that he did not ask for money, he told me he was hungry and asked me to buy him an item off the menu board.Total cost $5.00 plus- he thanked me & left. I seriously doubt l would pass him by & not "assist"  in some small way the next time I "bump" into him..Your Thoughts?

Have a Great Hump Day & upcoming weekend. .

People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it- George Bernard Shaw.

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    Posted: June 24, 2015, 12:53 pm - IP Logged

    What you're really asking is "Are the odds of you ever giving a panhandler a few $$ the same as your odds of winning a lottery jackpot?"

    When put that way my answer would be "yes", a panhandler is as likely to get money from me as I'm likely to win a lottery jackpot.

     * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
       
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      I've given food and money, my own food, prayer,  before when I had very little to give and would continue to do so, however being careful with who when what and how...have to be careful now because my little kids offered a man to stay with us and he could have my bed, ??.  I've been a lurker on here for years and just joined... But giving to me, could mean sooo much more than just money, we don't give to be seen, we give to instill hope in others and maybe a little more hope in ourselves and humanity. But if you're sitting there with gold chains around your neck panhandling then no, kick rocks. 

      Theres a line what you sow you reap...

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        Posted: June 24, 2015, 1:48 pm - IP Logged

        Last Friday my husband ans I went to check this new eatery out,I stepped in to get a menu,I came out and this man came up to the truck,he said my car ran out of gas down the road,my husband no knowing started to reach for his wallet,I said no very loudly to my husband,he said why not hun,,I said this man runs out of gas daily in this area,he uses the same old story day after day...I said to him,why dont you change your story.He rants on too the next person...if there is panhandlers I will give money,but this guy has been doing this since I moved here 10 years ago.

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          What you're really asking is "Are the odds of you ever giving a panhandler a few $$ the same as your odds of winning a lottery jackpot?"

          When put that way my answer would be "yes", a panhandler is as likely to get money from me as I'm likely to win a lottery jackpot.

          No RJ- that is not what l am asking. I explained my reason why & l was speaking from an experience.l think you looking at this scenario  as one with a  " feeding pigeons" mentality. In other words observing people going out each day w/ pigeon food &  those pesky birds knowing full well that someone is going to show up & give them their daily bread.

          People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it- George Bernard Shaw.

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            I've given food and money, my own food, prayer,  before when I had very little to give and would continue to do so, however being careful with who when what and how...have to be careful now because my little kids offered a man to stay with us and he could have my bed, ??.  I've been a lurker on here for years and just joined... But giving to me, could mean sooo much more than just money, we don't give to be seen, we give to instill hope in others and maybe a little more hope in ourselves and humanity. But if you're sitting there with gold chains around your neck panhandling then no, kick rocks. 

            Theres a line what you sow you reap...

            Thank You. .

            People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it- George Bernard Shaw.

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              Posted: June 24, 2015, 1:55 pm - IP Logged

              Last Friday my husband ans I went to check this new eatery out,I stepped in to get a menu,I came out and this man came up to the truck,he said my car ran out of gas down the road,my husband no knowing started to reach for his wallet,I said no very loudly to my husband,he said why not hun,,I said this man runs out of gas daily in this area,he uses the same old story day after day...I said to him,why dont you change your story.He rants on too the next person...if there is panhandlers I will give money,but this guy has been doing this since I moved here 10 years ago.

              I can see why you two get along so well together: Your hubby & you. Opposites attract. You say No, he says Yes/ why not. May you live long & prosper.

              People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it- George Bernard Shaw.

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                You're welxome. You know in the end I do believe we are blessed to be a blessing... But we are to still have common sense

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                  Posted: June 24, 2015, 3:32 pm - IP Logged

                  What you're really asking is "Are the odds of you ever giving a panhandler a few $$ the same as your odds of winning a lottery jackpot?"

                  When put that way my answer would be "yes", a panhandler is as likely to get money from me as I'm likely to win a lottery jackpot.

                  LOL  I'm very particular about those I give money to these days, esp. after being burned more than once.  I do try to help those I think really need it, but it's usually not in a monetary way.  I was going to get my lottery tickets a few days ago and saw a guy limping along going the other way.  I did a U-turn and pulled up alongside him and asked if he needed a ride.  The look of relief on his face was worth a hundred dollars to me - he had dropped something on his instep at work and had walked to the store to use the phone.  I gave him a lift back home and he thanked me several times along the way and several times after he got out of my truck. Made me think that was my "attaboy!" for the day.

                  Most of the times I've given money to guys who said they wanted to buy food or gas but they just wanted the money for drugs or booze.  When I was going back to school and working P/T at a liquor store,  I stopped at a convenience store near my house to buy a newspaper to read at work.  A man approached me and said he was hitchhiking somewhere, was broke and sure could use something to eat.  As I said, I was a student, money was tight and while I was going to be paid that evening, I didn't have any cash on me.  I rummaged around in a little bucket I kept in a cup holder in the console to hold loose change, one I had just pulled a couple of quarters out of to buy a paper, and got all the change out of it and gave it to him, probably close to $3-3.50 in a few quarters, but mostly nickels, dimes and pennies, a big handful.  I told him the store usually had a deal on a couple of burritos or corn dogs w/ a large soft drink and that would cover it easily enough.  He thanked me, "God bless ya, sir." and I went on to work a few blocks down the street. 

                  I had just relieved the person on the earlier shift, checked everything else out, got me a Coke and since it was still slow business that early, sat down to read the paper.  About five min. later the door chimed and announced a customer.  I looked up over the top of the paper and saw the panhandler I had just given money!  He came up to the counter, pulled out the change I had just given him, spread it out on the counter top and asked if that was enough to buy a pint of the cheapest vodka!  I asked him if I looked familiar and he allowed that I did, sort of and I reminded him I was the one who had given him the money...for food!  He didn't even bother to look sheepish, just asked me if I wanted him to go somewhere else.  I went ahead and sold him the pint and told him he had better move on down the road to the next town b/c as soon as he left, I was calling the police.  (and I did) I really wanted to take the baseball bat stashed under the counter to him, but....

                  I think it's our duty to help those less fortunate than ourselves, to assist those in need, to share what we have, but I'm not supporting their vices and bad habits.

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                    LOL  I'm very particular about those I give money to these days, esp. after being burned more than once.  I do try to help those I think really need it, but it's usually not in a monetary way.  I was going to get my lottery tickets a few days ago and saw a guy limping along going the other way.  I did a U-turn and pulled up alongside him and asked if he needed a ride.  The look of relief on his face was worth a hundred dollars to me - he had dropped something on his instep at work and had walked to the store to use the phone.  I gave him a lift back home and he thanked me several times along the way and several times after he got out of my truck. Made me think that was my "attaboy!" for the day.

                    Most of the times I've given money to guys who said they wanted to buy food or gas but they just wanted the money for drugs or booze.  When I was going back to school and working P/T at a liquor store,  I stopped at a convenience store near my house to buy a newspaper to read at work.  A man approached me and said he was hitchhiking somewhere, was broke and sure could use something to eat.  As I said, I was a student, money was tight and while I was going to be paid that evening, I didn't have any cash on me.  I rummaged around in a little bucket I kept in a cup holder in the console to hold loose change, one I had just pulled a couple of quarters out of to buy a paper, and got all the change out of it and gave it to him, probably close to $3-3.50 in a few quarters, but mostly nickels, dimes and pennies, a big handful.  I told him the store usually had a deal on a couple of burritos or corn dogs w/ a large soft drink and that would cover it easily enough.  He thanked me, "God bless ya, sir." and I went on to work a few blocks down the street. 

                    I had just relieved the person on the earlier shift, checked everything else out, got me a Coke and since it was still slow business that early, sat down to read the paper.  About five min. later the door chimed and announced a customer.  I looked up over the top of the paper and saw the panhandler I had just given money!  He came up to the counter, pulled out the change I had just given him, spread it out on the counter top and asked if that was enough to buy a pint of the cheapest vodka!  I asked him if I looked familiar and he allowed that I did, sort of and I reminded him I was the one who had given him the money...for food!  He didn't even bother to look sheepish, just asked me if I wanted him to go somewhere else.  I went ahead and sold him the pint and told him he had better move on down the road to the next town b/c as soon as he left, I was calling the police.  (and I did) I really wanted to take the baseball bat stashed under the counter to him, but....

                    I think it's our duty to help those less fortunate than ourselves, to assist those in need, to share what we have, but I'm not supporting their vices and bad habits.

                    mikeintexas -

                    I hear what you are saying.  Yes it is sad to have those less fortunate buy booze with the money we gift them.  On the other hand, having a life that low, sometimes the booze might just take the edge off and allow the person to get by and make it another day. 

                    Times are tough and its probable that many a panhandler/begger/person-down-and-out has had to swallow what little pride they had left and beg.  That's tough and would probably cause me to get a small bottle of liquid courage so that I could even look in the mirror or look up from the ground.

                    ...

                    Would I be inclined to give?  Yes - I already do, and yes I know some buy booze, and yes it is sad that they do.  However, I GIFTED the money to them, thus making it their money to do as they choose/see fit.  I am blessed that it's not me having to beg.

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                      mikeintexas -

                      I hear what you are saying.  Yes it is sad to have those less fortunate buy booze with the money we gift them.  On the other hand, having a life that low, sometimes the booze might just take the edge off and allow the person to get by and make it another day. 

                      Times are tough and its probable that many a panhandler/begger/person-down-and-out has had to swallow what little pride they had left and beg.  That's tough and would probably cause me to get a small bottle of liquid courage so that I could even look in the mirror or look up from the ground.

                      ...

                      Would I be inclined to give?  Yes - I already do, and yes I know some buy booze, and yes it is sad that they do.  However, I GIFTED the money to them, thus making it their money to do as they choose/see fit.  I am blessed that it's not me having to beg.

                      Alcoholics who go cold turkey risk the DTs and seizures. So, it's more than just an emotional problem. 

                       

                      You're a kind and thoughtful man, Max

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                        Nope too many scammers make 50 or 100K a year doing this and drive their new model year SUV's back to their middle class home every evening.

                        I'd happily donate a large sum to the local homeless shelter and the local battered women's shelter.  But not to individuals.

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                          Nope too many scammers make 50 or 100K a year doing this and drive their new model year SUV's back to their middle class home every evening.

                          I'd happily donate a large sum to the local homeless shelter and the local battered women's shelter.  But not to individuals.

                          only cure for panhandlers and other trouble makers

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                            noise-gate,

                            It would depend on the situation.

                            When I worked in Vegas (Vegas has a lot of bums because it's an easy town to be a bum in) we had to park in one certain area which was a few blocks from the casino. There were plenty of panhandlers and if you gave one of them a dollar or two they would be waiting for you everyday from then on.

                            And just as many donations went to the slots as to buy food, or a bottle of Ripple.

                            On the other hand one cold night (it does get cold there) there were a couple of Paiutes outside asking for money and we could hear the players whooping it up inside. So they're betting hundreds on a craps table while dealers going into work are giving the Paiutes a few bucks.

                            Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                            Lep

                            There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                               If your town or city has shelters, church supported homes, then that is how I help with the homeless . Food pantries, food stamps, . Alcohol Anonymous "AA".  Drug interdictions and solutions are available.

                               When I win then I would not feel guilty by walking past and giving to proven organizations such as those I mentioned.  Of course I would have so much time on my hands that I could do more to help create a safety net.

                               I've been rich and I've been poor. Believe me, rich is better. 

                               Attributed to Joe E. Lewis and others