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# Neural Net Lottery Picker

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 lakerben100New MexicoUnited StatesMember #86096January 29, 201020910 PostsOffline September 27, 2015, 9:08 pm⮟Quote: Originally posted by stoopendaal on September 27, 2015Hi,A new version (1.3) of Percep-Lotron is available for download:supports games up to 100 numbers (highest number)supports pick 3/pick 4 games (any digit-game) for positional input (digits 0 up to 9).    Cheers!Thanks!Do we have to deleate the older versions?Win!
 martor854EdinburghUnited KingdomMember #97829September 24, 201062 PostsOffline September 28, 2015, 6:07 amQuote: Originally posted by stoopendaal on September 27, 2015Hi,A new version (1.3) of Percep-Lotron is available for download:supports games up to 100 numbers (highest number)supports pick 3/pick 4 games (any digit-game) for positional input (digits 0 up to 9).    Cheers!Hi stoopendaal,Thank you again for this display of excellent thinking, skill and generosity. Briljante software. Keep up the good work!Best regards,martor854
 tokecapSao PauloBrazilMember #156155June 10, 2014134 PostsOnline September 28, 2015, 7:13 amMaybe perceplotron32.exe is x.64PleaseCould you take a look. thanks
 martor854EdinburghUnited KingdomMember #97829September 24, 201062 PostsOffline September 28, 2015, 7:44 amQuote: Originally posted by tokecap on September 28, 2015Maybe perceplotron32.exe is x.64PleaseCould you take a look. thanksHi tokecap,perceplotron32 really is what it says it is. It runs fine on my computer under WinXP 32. Quick test with very good result with: LR=0.50, Mom: 0.90, LC=1,300, F=24, Seed=1, Use latest results: 30 (29), Skip=1, Top RN=10, Hits=3. For me, 3 in 10 on a 6/49 lottery looks very promising. I think I got the parameter values from this thread.Regards,
 Elizabeth03Nova ScotiaCanadaMember #9934December 27, 20041200 PostsOffline September 29, 2015, 8:16 amThe download's are not compatible with my computer, still say's access denied! I guess I won't be using the system, to generate number's for the Canada lotteries, any time; soon! Thank you for your assistance- though, .

Poland
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Guys

Just for your information. I've run some tests and here are the results. That is for 6/49 game.

The aim was simple: finding out what's the break-point where at least 50% of the sample has a 6 of 6 among the x-top ranking numbers.

To have a pretty reasonable sample size I skipped 10 games and went on a testing spree to get the answer. Many settings give the same results:

to have a 50/50 chance you need to play the pool of 43 top ranking numbers out of the total of 49. I'm afraid that is a dead end.

What it means in terms of odds is that we actually do not beat them at all as playing random 43 numbers of the pool of 49 the odds are 1: 2.29 so on average  every second game when we play using 43 randomly picked numbers out of 49 we will have a 6 of 6 among them.

Norway
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Guys

Just for your information. I've run some tests and here are the results. That is for 6/49 game.

The aim was simple: finding out what's the break-point where at least 50% of the sample has a 6 of 6 among the x-top ranking numbers.

To have a pretty reasonable sample size I skipped 10 games and went on a testing spree to get the answer. Many settings give the same results:

to have a 50/50 chance you need to play the pool of 43 top ranking numbers out of the total of 49. I'm afraid that is a dead end.

What it means in terms of odds is that we actually do not beat them at all as playing random 43 numbers of the pool of 49 the odds are 1: 2.29 so on average  every second game when we play using 43 randomly picked numbers out of 49 we will have a 6 of 6 among them.

I don't think people expect to get 6 numbers on 50% of the skipped results when playing fewer recommended numbers.

If you for example can get one pick-6  within a 15 number wheel once every 10 draws you should be satisfied.

 adamcustomPolandMember #86299February 2, 20101068 PostsOffline September 29, 2015, 12:36 pmQuote: Originally posted by MillionsWanted on September 29, 2015I don't think people expect to get 6 numbers on 50% of the skipped results when playing fewer recommended numbers.If you for example can get one pick-6  within a 15 number wheel once every 10 draws you should be satisfied.I for one play to hit the JP. Whatever I hit on the road is nice but not what it is all about.Run a simulation with how many draws you want and show me you beat the odds more than 3 standard deviations. For now to me it is the same as QP's.Adam
 Elizabeth03Nova ScotiaCanadaMember #9934December 27, 20041200 PostsOffline September 29, 2015, 1:16 pmWhen I click it on perceplotron' it say's search the web for suitable software for the file? And when I click on for NNLP,  that one is the only one that work's, it show's a long list of combination's- but it doesn't show me how to generate new numbers- after that?
 adamcustomPolandMember #86299February 2, 20101068 PostsOffline September 29, 2015, 1:17 pmOf course, nothing wrong with it and I really appreciate the efforts and work put in it by stoopendaal and the fact he has shared it with us.It's to be expected that NN will not beat the lottery odds as we would like it to be. It would be nice to see it however.It's a smart funny way to play lotteries. Some people may hit a nice prize from time to time, but the same thing might be said about the random.org number generator which is said to be pretty good as they can only be.The odds are ruthless and such a drawing where you can have all 6 winners in a pool of 10-15 hottest or top ranking numbers are few and far between and you never know when it can happen.I encourage everybody with a big database to run some tests to see for themselves how many numbers on average should be in play to hit the JP. Rules are easy here for example : if you play 15 numbers the odds say that  you should have 6 winning numbers in that pool every 2794 games if you play 20 numbers   "                                        "                                                        every  361 games So if you can show with your tests that you can have twice as much than it would prove it really works. What is said here refers to 6/49 game. Adam
 tokecapSao PauloBrazilMember #156155June 10, 2014134 PostsOnline September 29, 2015, 1:40 pmTokecap and Eddie postPercep-Lotron 1.3, not sure what's going on here, but whan i use Backtesting and Chart it gave me an error saying, ( Unhandled exception has occurred in your application. If you click Continue, the application will ignore this error and attempt to continue. If you click Quit the application will close immediately) I had to close it cause it wouldn't let do anything else.. It told me to read Details below and it said, (When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception well be sent to JIT debugger registered on the computer rather than be handled by this dialog box) If anyone know's what's going on here, pls let me know.Thanks!    Using Windows XP Pro..
 RJOh100mid-OhioUnited StatesMember #9March 24, 200120272 PostsOffline September 29, 2015, 8:25 pmQuote: Originally posted by adamcustom on September 29, 2015Of course, nothing wrong with it and I really appreciate the efforts and work put in it by stoopendaal and the fact he has shared it with us.It's to be expected that NN will not beat the lottery odds as we would like it to be. It would be nice to see it however.It's a smart funny way to play lotteries. Some people may hit a nice prize from time to time, but the same thing might be said about the random.org number generator which is said to be pretty good as they can only be.The odds are ruthless and such a drawing where you can have all 6 winners in a pool of 10-15 hottest or top ranking numbers are few and far between and you never know when it can happen.I encourage everybody with a big database to run some tests to see for themselves how many numbers on average should be in play to hit the JP. Rules are easy here for example : if you play 15 numbers the odds say that  you should have 6 winning numbers in that pool every 2794 games if you play 20 numbers   "                                        "                                                        every  361 games So if you can show with your tests that you can have twice as much than it would prove it really works. What is said here refers to 6/49 game. Adam"Rules are easy here for example : if you play 15 numbers the odds say that  you should have 6 winning numbers in that pool every 2794 games if you play 20 numbers   "                                        "                                                        every  361 games" For which games do those rules apply? * you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones *
 adamcustomPolandMember #86299February 2, 20101068 PostsOffline September 30, 2015, 5:17 amQuote: Originally posted by RJOh on September 29, 2015"Rules are easy here for example : if you play 15 numbers the odds say that  you should have 6 winning numbers in that pool every 2794 games if you play 20 numbers   "                                        "                                                        every  361 games" For which games do those rules apply?6/49 as I've written. With no BB.
 adamcustomPolandMember #86299February 2, 20101068 PostsOffline September 30, 2015, 9:01 amFor those of you who set their sights on lower tier prizes that's the benchmark worth looking at to decide if it makes sense to spend the money on their plays. This is for 6/49:if you play a pool of 15 numbers the odds are 1:18 which means that on average you should have 4 out of 6 winning numbers every 18 games.So if for example if you manage to have the four winning numbers every 9 games you do very well and your method of picking numbers is very good. Adam

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