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Posted: September 28, 2016, 12:58 am - IP Logged

To All:

 

There have been a number of posts on this thread to the effect that the software program Neural Net Lottery Picker  (NNLP v. 2.1) has been tripping various anti virus programs. 

 

Has anyone thought to hire a company or software programmer to deobfuscate the software and reverse engineer the software program to confirm whether or not there is a malware program, trojan, or virus hidden or embedded within this software program?

 

I do not think that this should be too difficult since the total file size of this software program is only 214 KB.

 

There should be some red flags to look for such as the presence of assembly code, for example. 

 

Sincerely,

 

Kosh

I don't know about this kind of thing, but I think that:

Small as the software might be it might not be possible to do so.

It might not be worth the effort, time  and or the money to do that.

It might be against the law to even try to do that.

If for some reason you don't like the program as it is right now, then don't use it and or delete it.

Nobody forces anybody to use it, so if you use it, you do so at your own risk.

And this is not the only software from him that alerts anti-malware programs.

Is there malware in his software programs? Antimalware programs say maybe to yes, but stoopendaal (Harmen or Simon) says no.

Take it or leave it, I myself can't say anything else other than what I already said about it.

Do I use this program and or any of his programs? That is only for me to know, either way.

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    Eventually they watch your screen while you are typing.

    Anything is possible. Eventually they have all your passwords, they scanned all your files or copied the entire data of your computer. Impossible? No. Once connected to a network it is spy- and controlparty. Any update can be malicious and you cannot trust your own decisions.

    Buy quickpicks! Spend more! Give away your goods! Loose more! Don't invest! Eat sweets! Drink beer! Smoke tobacco and weed! The place is corrupt!

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      Posted: September 28, 2016, 3:17 pm - IP Logged

      After a few weeks of experimenting with the settings on NNLP with not much results, I decided to use the NNLP with the old settings for VikingLotto on page 18.

      I generated 30 lines on NNLP and did not filter out any lines. I won 135 NOK and played for 150 NOK. I got one 4/6 and one 3/6.

      Got 90% of my money back. As you can see from the list of 30 lines, the two lines with prizes are among the lines with lowest Total Error.

      Viking Lotto results Sept. 28th, 2016

      02 42 01 18 08 03 ;90,9319
      46 13 18 32 20 47 ;29,4383
      04 12 05 41 24 28 ;27,1082
      09 48 04 26 33 01 ;23,7329
      28 44 06 10 29 43 ;19,6830
      12 06 01 46 47 45 ;17,8659
      01 07 44 31 14 39 ;15,2596
      06 46 04 47 01 48 ;14,6281
      45 04 47 36 11 02 ;14,5075
      04 19 20 45 21 40 ;14,4239
      28 07 29 22 25 27 ;14,2122
      22 23 01 24 26 43 ;14,1321
      11 23 10 40 25 33 ;14,1307
      30 20 01 34 13 47 ;14,1061
      23 13 31 48 29 01 ;14,0762
      31 39 22 43 01 02 ;14,0741
      21 36 02 03 48 32 ;14,0473
      17 01 38 16 28 37 ;14,0346
      30 03 29 34 35 15 ;14,0042
      29 25 15 35 12 06 ;14,0039
      24 26 40 31 21 02 ;13,9224
      42 32 11 12 46 01 ;13,9206
      13 19 23 31 34 26 ;13,8666
      26 24 27 37 28 02 ;13,8656
      30 01 32 02 46 37 ;13,8354
      31 30 45 21 05 08 ;13,8243
      39 46 18 37 02 01 ;13,8011
      41 15 06 33 45 01 ;13,7969
      23 01 24 19 38 16 ;13,6728
      44 13 20 01 38 19 ;13,6540

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        Posted: September 29, 2016, 5:07 am - IP Logged

        After a few weeks of experimenting with the settings on NNLP with not much results, I decided to use the NNLP with the old settings for VikingLotto on page 18.

        I generated 30 lines on NNLP and did not filter out any lines. I won 135 NOK and played for 150 NOK. I got one 4/6 and one 3/6.

        Got 90% of my money back. As you can see from the list of 30 lines, the two lines with prizes are among the lines with lowest Total Error.

        Viking Lotto results Sept. 28th, 2016

        02 42 01 18 08 03 ;90,9319
        46 13 18 32 20 47 ;29,4383
        04 12 05 41 24 28 ;27,1082
        09 48 04 26 33 01 ;23,7329
        28 44 06 10 29 43 ;19,6830
        12 06 01 46 47 45 ;17,8659
        01 07 44 31 14 39 ;15,2596
        06 46 04 47 01 48 ;14,6281
        45 04 47 36 11 02 ;14,5075
        04 19 20 45 21 40 ;14,4239
        28 07 29 22 25 27 ;14,2122
        22 23 01 24 26 43 ;14,1321
        11 23 10 40 25 33 ;14,1307
        30 20 01 34 13 47 ;14,1061
        23 13 31 48 29 01 ;14,0762
        31 39 22 43 01 02 ;14,0741
        21 36 02 03 48 32 ;14,0473
        17 01 38 16 28 37 ;14,0346
        30 03 29 34 35 15 ;14,0042
        29 25 15 35 12 06 ;14,0039
        24 26 40 31 21 02 ;13,9224
        42 32 11 12 46 01 ;13,9206
        13 19 23 31 34 26 ;13,8666
        26 24 27 37 28 02 ;13,8656
        30 01 32 02 46 37 ;13,8354
        31 30 45 21 05 08 ;13,8243
        39 46 18 37 02 01 ;13,8011
        41 15 06 33 45 01 ;13,7969
        23 01 24 19 38 16 ;13,6728
        44 13 20 01 38 19 ;13,6540

        If so, then you'd be better off playing 10 lines or so with lowest total error.

        Adam

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          Posted: September 29, 2016, 5:33 am - IP Logged

          Hi MillionsWanted,

          "After a few weeks of experimenting with the settings on NNLP with not much results, I decided to use the NNLP with the old settings for VikingLotto on page 18."

          I went to page 18 on this thread but I could not find any settings... Could you tell me what I'm doing wrong?

          Thanks

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            Posted: September 29, 2016, 5:52 am - IP Logged

            martor

            Look for in pages 19-22 or so. It should be there, just take some time to find it.

            Adam

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              Just my opinion but I think a filtered RNG would do as well as this program.  As I see from the post, there are several

              user settings and if a person does manage to pull out some kind of a win then don't expect the wins to continue.  The

              lottery is random and no NN is going to predict random.   Play with the settings long enough and it's bound to produce

              a few wins but it's not the NN that is predicting, it's a combination of the user settings and chance.   I have written many

              such programs and used a few commercial programs in the past and none of them were worth the effort.  I have not seen

              the author posting anything for quite some time and I think it's for good reason, he / she came to the same conclusion. 

              Not saying it won't win here and there as even a broken clock gives the correct time twice a day.   Just my two cents here

              but I think it's a waste of time.   Maybe if the author could add the ability to track progress so that the user could know

              exactly what settings would have produced a better outcome would be a step up but given the millions of different choices

              I don't think that would be possible.   IMHO if you can't track where you went wrong then there is no way to do better the

              next game.

              RL

              Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

              I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

              they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

              USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

                US Flag Trump / 2016 & 2020  

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                Just my opinion but I think a filtered RNG would do as well as this program.  As I see from the post, there are several

                user settings and if a person does manage to pull out some kind of a win then don't expect the wins to continue.  The

                lottery is random and no NN is going to predict random.   Play with the settings long enough and it's bound to produce

                a few wins but it's not the NN that is predicting, it's a combination of the user settings and chance.   I have written many

                such programs and used a few commercial programs in the past and none of them were worth the effort.  I have not seen

                the author posting anything for quite some time and I think it's for good reason, he / she came to the same conclusion. 

                Not saying it won't win here and there as even a broken clock gives the correct time twice a day.   Just my two cents here

                but I think it's a waste of time.   Maybe if the author could add the ability to track progress so that the user could know

                exactly what settings would have produced a better outcome would be a step up but given the millions of different choices

                I don't think that would be possible.   IMHO if you can't track where you went wrong then there is no way to do better the

                next game.

                RL

                " IMHO if you can't track where you went wrong then there is no way to do better the

                next game."

                RL, that is the secret to all the games. If you can track the Where,Why,When, you have a winner, if those 3 are repeatable.

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                  Morning Bob

                  I just checked and it's been almost a year since the authors last post, to me that says something.  All we can do

                  is make our best guess and hope for a win.  All my programs track the data so that the user can maybe do a little

                  better the next game.  The way NN's work, it's not possible so the user just has to make blind guesses and since

                  the correct settings for one game don't transfer to the next, one has to basically start over each game.  I don't want

                  to be Johnny rain cloud but that's the way I see it.

                  RL

                  Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

                  I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                  they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

                  USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

                    US Flag Trump / 2016 & 2020  

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                    Random does produce patterns and we try to guess when those patterns will repeat.  Tracking data allows us

                    to find patterns and I rely on gut instincts to tell me when to play, well that and maybe a little nudge from the

                    One that controls it all.   I think it is LP member Big John signature that says something like "we don't hit the

                    lottery, the lottery hits us."   When I play I try to place myself in the best position for that to happen.

                    RL

                    Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

                    I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                    they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

                    USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

                      US Flag Trump / 2016 & 2020  

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                      Posted: September 29, 2016, 7:12 am - IP Logged

                      It's still there on page 18, December 2nd, 2015.

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                        Posted: September 29, 2016, 7:18 am - IP Logged

                        If so, then you'd be better off playing 10 lines or so with lowest total error.

                        Adam

                        That's what I recommend in this post. I play all lines when I can afford it.

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                          Thank you adamcustom and MillionsWanted. I'm much obliged.

                          Best regards.

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                            I don't know about this kind of thing, but I think that:

                            Small as the software might be it might not be possible to do so.

                            It might not be worth the effort, time  and or the money to do that.

                            It might be against the law to even try to do that.

                            If for some reason you don't like the program as it is right now, then don't use it and or delete it.

                            Nobody forces anybody to use it, so if you use it, you do so at your own risk.

                            And this is not the only software from him that alerts anti-malware programs.

                            Is there malware in his software programs? Antimalware programs say maybe to yes, but stoopendaal (Harmen or Simon) says no.

                            Take it or leave it, I myself can't say anything else other than what I already said about it.

                            Do I use this program and or any of his programs? That is only for me to know, either way.

                            I Agree!Thumbs Up

                            Some people ,Bash,are not grateful with the hard work of some good persons,like stoopendaal.

                            Regards to the "good people".

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                              Posted: September 29, 2016, 2:49 pm - IP Logged

                              After a few weeks of experimenting with the settings on NNLP with not much results, I decided to use the NNLP with the old settings for VikingLotto on page 18.

                              I generated 30 lines on NNLP and did not filter out any lines. I won 135 NOK and played for 150 NOK. I got one 4/6 and one 3/6.

                              Got 90% of my money back. As you can see from the list of 30 lines, the two lines with prizes are among the lines with lowest Total Error.

                              Viking Lotto results Sept. 28th, 2016

                              02 42 01 18 08 03 ;90,9319
                              46 13 18 32 20 47 ;29,4383
                              04 12 05 41 24 28 ;27,1082
                              09 48 04 26 33 01 ;23,7329
                              28 44 06 10 29 43 ;19,6830
                              12 06 01 46 47 45 ;17,8659
                              01 07 44 31 14 39 ;15,2596
                              06 46 04 47 01 48 ;14,6281
                              45 04 47 36 11 02 ;14,5075
                              04 19 20 45 21 40 ;14,4239
                              28 07 29 22 25 27 ;14,2122
                              22 23 01 24 26 43 ;14,1321
                              11 23 10 40 25 33 ;14,1307
                              30 20 01 34 13 47 ;14,1061
                              23 13 31 48 29 01 ;14,0762
                              31 39 22 43 01 02 ;14,0741
                              21 36 02 03 48 32 ;14,0473
                              17 01 38 16 28 37 ;14,0346
                              30 03 29 34 35 15 ;14,0042
                              29 25 15 35 12 06 ;14,0039
                              24 26 40 31 21 02 ;13,9224
                              42 32 11 12 46 01 ;13,9206
                              13 19 23 31 34 26 ;13,8666
                              26 24 27 37 28 02 ;13,8656
                              30 01 32 02 46 37 ;13,8354
                              31 30 45 21 05 08 ;13,8243
                              39 46 18 37 02 01 ;13,8011
                              41 15 06 33 45 01 ;13,7969
                              23 01 24 19 38 16 ;13,6728
                              44 13 20 01 38 19 ;13,6540

                              Congrats!!!.

                              You have found something interesting in your bets with "lowest total error".

                              Regards.Smile

                                 
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