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# Neural Net Lottery Picker

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The neural nets have nothing to do with it. The idea is not to play any complete number sets that have already been played.

To pick the individual digits, for say Mega Millions....

1) Use only Mega Millions draws since 10/22/2013 as that is the date that the game changed to 75 numbers and 15 mega or bonus numbers.

2) Re-arrange my draw history from lowest digit to highest digit for the first 5 digits, if not already done so by the state or web site that I am getting my draw history from.

3) Count how many times each digit showed up in the first position, keeping only the digits that showed up with the highest count. Do this action for each of the 5 number positions, try to make sure no numbers repeat from one position to the other. For example if the number 23 shows up in position 2 and 3, keep 23 in the position with the highest count, eliminate the other. If both have the same count use the lowest position with the most recent appearance of 23 in this example.

4) Do a skip and hit chart for the numbers in each position, keeping the digits with the lowest skips in the last 30 draws.

5) Eliminate numbers in the last/latest draw.

6) Get the sum numbers for all of the prior draws (note step1), count how many times each one showed up keeping the sums with the highest count. An alternative to this idea is to use Gail Howards most probable sums which would be 141-240 for a 5/75 game according to her web site.

7) Make a hot and cold list of the last 30 games (75/5*2) for each position.

8) Construct each number you want to play with a mix of 2 hot 3 cold or 2 cold 3 hot using 2 odd 3 even or 3 odd 2 even for each number set making sure they add up to the sums in step 6, using the numbers you have left from the prior eliminations.

Is this idea any better than a quick pick? Don't know, have not made a spreadsheet for it. It may create too many combinations to be practical. Some one here at LP may have already made a workout for this or something similar.

Its just an idea, maybe it could give someone else a better idea.

Ok. Thank you! I know most of this filters, I have a software that does all calculations for me like tracking hot/cold/sums root sums, first digits, last digits  you named..  I  thought you were talking about use NNLP for calculating possibly what a combination will hit as you said it in your earlier post:

"I'am suggesting that we use the software to predict the indicators, not the actual numbers"

So to apply to jackpot games too. I thought you were talking about to use it with NNLP.

Thank you!

"In all chaos there is a cosmos,

in all disorder a secret order."

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Ok. Thank you! I know most of this filters, I have a software that does all calculations for me like tracking hot/cold/sums root sums, first digits, last digits  you named..  I  thought you were talking about use NNLP for calculating possibly what a combination will hit as you said it in your earlier post:

"I'am suggesting that we use the software to predict the indicators, not the actual numbers"

So to apply to jackpot games too. I thought you were talking about to use it with NNLP.

Thank you!

When I said "I'am suggesting that we use the software to predict the indicators, not the actual numbers" I meant pick 3.

Although it could be possible to use nnlp I was just showing how I would go about picking jackpot numbers without using a neural net program as the big games are vvery different from the daily games.

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When I said "I'am suggesting that we use the software to predict the indicators, not the actual numbers" I meant pick 3.

Although it could be possible to use nnlp I was just showing how I would go about picking jackpot numbers without using a neural net program as the big games are vvery different from the daily games.

Ok. Thank you, understood. Good luck!  Hope NNLP or other methods you are using will work for you to win!

"In all chaos there is a cosmos,

in all disorder a secret order."

-  Carl Jung

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Haven't played VikingLotto in the last two weeks. This week I decided to try again. I used the settings I posted on page 18.

Another win on Viking Lotto, 4/6. I played 20 lines which costs 100 NOK and won 105 NOK. A very small profit.

Here's the lines generated with NNLP 2.1. The line with the 4/6 has the numbers marked with yellow.

Notice it's the line with the second lowest Total Error.

21 40 01 37 11 07 ;29,04543
35 16 20 26 17 03 ;27,86701
27 12 23 17 43 44 ;20,03315
38 24 10 04 40 19 ;19,23205
08 47 27 10 01 45 ;18,09588
29 02 05 28 44 43 ;17,63727
45 14 26 44 02 12 ;17,35657
11 18 24 06 36 39 ;17,34664
01 42 34 47 11 16 ;16,93521
20 35 34 05 06 46 ;16,90673
41 30 19 13 31 12 ;16,88722
14 42 26 06 25 24 ;16,87406
38 29 39 03 09 25 ;16,86922
09 46 22 35 04 34 ;16,84088
10 43 36 17 19 18 ;16,82071
19 33 20 47 01 30 ;16,81306
07 01 37 46 20 41 ;16,79063
22 39 33 48 01 02 ;16,70620
08 28 32 21 22 48 ;16,67520
02 01 37 38 29 48 ;16,66892

Results page for VikingLotto:
https://www.norsk-tipping.no/lotteri/viking-lotto#/resultater

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Haven't played VikingLotto in the last two weeks. This week I decided to try again. I used the settings I posted on page 18.

Another win on Viking Lotto, 4/6. I played 20 lines which costs 100 NOK and won 105 NOK. A very small profit.

Here's the lines generated with NNLP 2.1. The line with the 4/6 has the numbers marked with yellow.

Notice it's the line with the second lowest Total Error.

21 40 01 37 11 07 ;29,04543
35 16 20 26 17 03 ;27,86701
27 12 23 17 43 44 ;20,03315
38 24 10 04 40 19 ;19,23205
08 47 27 10 01 45 ;18,09588
29 02 05 28 44 43 ;17,63727
45 14 26 44 02 12 ;17,35657
11 18 24 06 36 39 ;17,34664
01 42 34 47 11 16 ;16,93521
20 35 34 05 06 46 ;16,90673
41 30 19 13 31 12 ;16,88722
14 42 26 06 25 24 ;16,87406
38 29 39 03 09 25 ;16,86922
09 46 22 35 04 34 ;16,84088
10 43 36 17 19 18 ;16,82071
19 33 20 47 01 30 ;16,81306
07 01 37 46 20 41 ;16,79063
22 39 33 48 01 02 ;16,70620
08 28 32 21 22 48 ;16,67520
02 01 37 38 29 48 ;16,66892

Results page for VikingLotto:
https://www.norsk-tipping.no/lotteri/viking-lotto#/resultater

Nice! Congrats!

"In all chaos there is a cosmos,

in all disorder a secret order."

-  Carl Jung

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Haven't played VikingLotto in the last two weeks. This week I decided to try again. I used the settings I posted on page 18.

Another win on Viking Lotto, 4/6. I played 20 lines which costs 100 NOK and won 105 NOK. A very small profit.

Here's the lines generated with NNLP 2.1. The line with the 4/6 has the numbers marked with yellow.

Notice it's the line with the second lowest Total Error.

21 40 01 37 11 07 ;29,04543
35 16 20 26 17 03 ;27,86701
27 12 23 17 43 44 ;20,03315
38 24 10 04 40 19 ;19,23205
08 47 27 10 01 45 ;18,09588
29 02 05 28 44 43 ;17,63727
45 14 26 44 02 12 ;17,35657
11 18 24 06 36 39 ;17,34664
01 42 34 47 11 16 ;16,93521
20 35 34 05 06 46 ;16,90673
41 30 19 13 31 12 ;16,88722
14 42 26 06 25 24 ;16,87406
38 29 39 03 09 25 ;16,86922
09 46 22 35 04 34 ;16,84088
10 43 36 17 19 18 ;16,82071
19 33 20 47 01 30 ;16,81306
07 01 37 46 20 41 ;16,79063
22 39 33 48 01 02 ;16,70620
08 28 32 21 22 48 ;16,67520
02 01 37 38 29 48 ;16,66892

Results page for VikingLotto:
https://www.norsk-tipping.no/lotteri/viking-lotto#/resultater

CONGRATS,MillionsWanted.

I hope next time you will hit 5/6

Regards

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Thanks, both of you.

As Stoopendaal pointed out earlier in this thread, lower Error means higher probability of finding the right number combination, which seems to be confirmed by these results. Perhaps it's possible to save some money by generating maybe 30 lines or more and only use the 10 lines with lowest Total Error.

May 21st, 2016. Saturday Lotto. Prize 4/7.

26 21 33 32 15 27 13 ;25,9849
26 01 18 07 08 04 28 ;19,0460
18 31 08 02 30 32 33 ;16,2687
17 16 21 11 05 02 28 ;16,0235
19 34 29 13 20 27 02 ;13,2591
12 28 17 22 10 18 06 ;11,9298
19 20 17 25 24 04 05 ;11,7865
25 24 01 23 29 02 30 ;11,4863
14 16 11 19 31 20 01 ;11,3117
21 30 12 04 33 22 07 ;11,1855
29 01 34 13 23 10 15 ;11,1453
31 16 27 01 14 02 32 ;11,1326

July 13, 2016. VikingLotto. Prize 2x3/6

23 27 42 21 44 45 ;63,7669
08 02 01 39 34 25 ;37,3921
10 45 01 09 20 31 ;29,7961
37 04 01 22 46 14 ;26,3922
07 29 28 41 10 47 ;21,2295
01 02 16 46 21 42 ;20,8701
06 22 33 18 43 09 ;20,7718
37 01 38 22 28 34 ;18,9056
15 41 30 32 35 01 ;18,7743
43 40 13 15 02 38 ;17,7122
48 17 24 30 36 01 ;17,6288
02 23 10 47 45 26 ;17,0625
15 12 30 02 46 44 ;16,9865
47 48 01 19 07 24 ;16,7735
27 40 36 06 18 17 ;16,5982
11 24 08 19 39 42 ;16,5633
21 20 41 40 13 04 ;16,5574
48 17 16 03 37 25 ;16,5437
36 27 14 38 01 28 ;16,5352
34 31 01 35 32 06 ;16,5296

August 10th, 2016. VikingLott. Prize 4/6.

21 40 01 37 11 07 ;29,04543
35 16 20 26 17 03 ;27,86701
27 12 23 17 43 44 ;20,03315
38 24 10 04 40 19 ;19,23205
08 47 27 10 01 45 ;18,09588
29 02 05 28 44 43 ;17,63727
45 14 26 44 02 12 ;17,35657
11 18 24 06 36 39 ;17,34664
01 42 34 47 11 16 ;16,93521
20 35 34 05 06 46 ;16,90673
41 30 19 13 31 12 ;16,88722
14 42 26 06 25 24 ;16,87406
38 29 39 03 09 25 ;16,86922
09 46 22 35 04 34 ;16,84088
10 43 36 17 19 18 ;16,82071
19 33 20 47 01 30 ;16,81306
07 01 37 46 20 41 ;16,79063
22 39 33 48 01 02 ;16,70620
08 28 32 21 22 48 ;16,67520
02 01 37 38 29 48 ;16,66892

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Haven't played VikingLotto in the last two weeks. This week I decided to try again. I used the settings I posted on page 18.

Another win on Viking Lotto, 4/6. I played 20 lines which costs 100 NOK and won 105 NOK. A very small profit.

Here's the lines generated with NNLP 2.1. The line with the 4/6 has the numbers marked with yellow.

Notice it's the line with the second lowest Total Error.

21 40 01 37 11 07 ;29,04543
35 16 20 26 17 03 ;27,86701
27 12 23 17 43 44 ;20,03315
38 24 10 04 40 19 ;19,23205
08 47 27 10 01 45 ;18,09588
29 02 05 28 44 43 ;17,63727
45 14 26 44 02 12 ;17,35657
11 18 24 06 36 39 ;17,34664
01 42 34 47 11 16 ;16,93521
20 35 34 05 06 46 ;16,90673
41 30 19 13 31 12 ;16,88722
14 42 26 06 25 24 ;16,87406
38 29 39 03 09 25 ;16,86922
09 46 22 35 04 34 ;16,84088
10 43 36 17 19 18 ;16,82071
19 33 20 47 01 30 ;16,81306
07 01 37 46 20 41 ;16,79063
22 39 33 48 01 02 ;16,70620
08 28 32 21 22 48 ;16,67520
02 01 37 38 29 48 ;16,66892

Results page for VikingLotto:
https://www.norsk-tipping.no/lotteri/viking-lotto#/resultater

Dear Millions Wanted,

Your copy of Neural Net Lottery Picker (NNLP 2.1) generated 20 lines with one of them winning with 4 of 6.

So I have a question:

How long did the NNLP 2.1 program have to run for to generate 20 lines?

Thanks.

Sincerely,

Kosh

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Dear Millions Wanted,

Your copy of Neural Net Lottery Picker (NNLP 2.1) generated 20 lines with one of them winning with 4 of 6.

So I have a question:

How long did the NNLP 2.1 program have to run for to generate 20 lines?

Thanks.

Sincerely,

Kosh

I had to run it three times. The first batch found seven lines and took three hours. The second batch found eight lines and took three hours as well. The third batch found the last five lines pretty quickly. You might experience that NNLP finds the first seven or eight lines very fast, but it's smart to let it run for a few hours just in case it will find extra lines. Sometimes you have to wait an extra hour for the last line in the batch.

It also depends on how fast your PC is.

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I had to run it three times. The first batch found seven lines and took three hours. The second batch found eight lines and took three hours as well. The third batch found the last five lines pretty quickly. You might experience that NNLP finds the first seven or eight lines very fast, but it's smart to let it run for a few hours just in case it will find extra lines. Sometimes you have to wait an extra hour for the last line in the batch.

It also depends on how fast your PC is.

I still cant find good settings for my game 6/43 in NNLP. I tried some from recommendations posts here, but most of the time I see the outcomes combinations more organized combos. What I mean is that as I understand NNLP suppose to find a patterns of randomness in the game and produce results, however what I see most of the time for example sets that goes perfectly the same like:

6-13-24-35-37-42

7-14-27-37-39-40 and etc..and it could have many combos like that..

So as you see the positions have the same decades in this examples, and that's results I am getting and that is too far from randomness.  So, it seems that NNLP try to find more organization in numbers then randomness in this games and settings I tried.

Will still keep trying though, however as you mention, trying new settings takes sometime forever, so I hope it will paid off in the near future!

"In all chaos there is a cosmos,

in all disorder a secret order."

-  Carl Jung

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I had to run it three times. The first batch found seven lines and took three hours. The second batch found eight lines and took three hours as well. The third batch found the last five lines pretty quickly. You might experience that NNLP finds the first seven or eight lines very fast, but it's smart to let it run for a few hours just in case it will find extra lines. Sometimes you have to wait an extra hour for the last line in the batch.

It also depends on how fast your PC is.

What were your settings? The settings for this are similar to Trader XL however it takes longer in nnlp or perceptlotron. I have a copy of Wards Systems Predictor but never got any answers that made any sense.

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What were your settings? The settings for this are similar to Trader XL however it takes longer in nnlp or perceptlotron. I have a copy of Wards Systems Predictor but never got any answers that made any sense.

Go to:

Settings on page 18

Learning Rate should be 9E-05.

You must find the settings for your lottery for yourself, if my settings suck. Which means a few hours of backtesting of different settings.

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I have some questions about the parameters in the Neural Net Lottery Picker Program NNLP (NNLP v 2.1).

The first concerns Momentum and Fixed Seed Input Weights.

Both of these parameters have a box to the left of them to click on to check.  Is this meant to turn the feature on and off?  I would like to confirm.

Here are the other questions:

What is the best setting for Momentum?

Should the number for Fixed Seed Input Weight be any number other than 1?

Thanks.

Kosh

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I have some questions about the parameters in the Neural Net Lottery Picker Program NNLP (NNLP v 2.1).

The first concerns Momentum and Fixed Seed Input Weights.

Both of these parameters have a box to the left of them to click on to check.  Is this meant to turn the feature on and off?  I would like to confirm.

Here are the other questions:

What is the best setting for Momentum?

Should the number for Fixed Seed Input Weight be any number other than 1?

Thanks.

Kosh

I've never really learned how to use these two settings. Stoopendaal has explained the use earlier in this thread.

You need to click on the CHECK box to activate them.

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Hi millionwanted,

I had a lot of trials with pecelotron without any consistent result.

Yesterday a gave a new trial with nnlp using your advices and guess: 2/5 with one game only (2 euros bet and 5.10 win)

I will dig a bit more with nnlp it s seems interesting .

26-15-27-13-05-;6,86461365214964;0,486529357378737;0,181693703361978;18:45:07.3552529;Learning Rate:9E-05| Noise:0,25|Threshold Error:0,1|Hidden Neurons:200|Test Data Range:29;)

result (5/49) 16 25 26 27 31