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Anyone have a system for picking numbers for the Jackpot.

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Posted: October 14, 2015, 7:35 pm - IP Logged

"My only question is "what period of time?"."

My guess would be some where around the previous 30 drawings since at least 50% of the combinations have had all their numbers hit at least once in that period.  But that' all past history now that PB has a new matrix.

It won't take that long before there are 30 drawings.

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    Posted: October 14, 2015, 10:29 pm - IP Logged

    It won't take that long before there are 30 drawings.

    Oh well, we still have MM with 207 drawings with its present matrix, only 15 bonus numbers and still only a dollar a line and right now a bigger jackpot.

     * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
       
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      Posted: October 14, 2015, 10:41 pm - IP Logged

      I filled out one of the new PB slips (CA) and the new matrix has 10 columns.  All 1's are in their own column, all 2's, etc.  It makes it applying my sequence easier when filling out the playslip.  85% being either a 4 or 5 sequence is the same as saying there will be 1 or 2 column repeats per draw.

      I'm going to try to come up with a system for the rows . . . . hmmm

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        I filled out one of the new PB slips (CA) and the new matrix has 10 columns.  All 1's are in their own column, all 2's, etc.  It makes it applying my sequence easier when filling out the playslip.  85% being either a 4 or 5 sequence is the same as saying there will be 1 or 2 column repeats per draw.

        I'm going to try to come up with a system for the rows . . . . hmmm

        Ohio also has a 10x7 grid for its new PB play slip and a 5x6 for the bonus numbers. My software has a similar layout to help when making out play slips, in fact it has similar layouts to match the play slips of all the games I play.

        Only problem is the software has to be updated every time the play slips design changes.  A couple of years ago Ohio changed vendors for its terminals and they change the 6/49 play slip from 10x5 grid to 5x10 and the software had to be updated even though the game didn't change.

         * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
           
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          Posted: October 15, 2015, 2:33 pm - IP Logged

          The best thing you can do is observe past results. Let me preface that by saying all it has yielded me is about 10% average per draw, so take all of this with a grain of salt.

          Let's start by analyzing today's Mega Millions numbers and how I break it down: 7-9-24-38-52 +1 124789 3-3

          The second group of numbers is the listing of the single digit 'weight' sequence of each - I saw a term on here what that weight is called, it slips my mind. The third group being the odd/even split which has only slightly more significance (if any) to me than draw sum.

          If you go back through the past 200 drawings (appx 2 years worth), ~85% of the time the single digit weight sequence is either 4 or 5 digits, meaning that either 1 or 2 of the single digits repeated. There will be a smattering of 3-digit seqeunces (where 3 of them repeated) and 6-digits sequences (where none repeated), but the majority of the time, it's as noted above. ~10% for 6-digit and ~5% for 3-digit sequence. There are NO 2 digit sequences.

          To add to that, ~85% of the time, 2 of the digits in that sequence will show up in the next draws sequence. Sometimes only 1 (or even none if it was a 3-digit previous), sometimes 3 of them will repeat, but very rarely (<1%) will 4 of them repeat.

          These sequence strings are very unique, in that only a couple of them have repeated through 200 drawings. It is also very rare to have 3 of the numbers in this sequence be sequential (~15%). Even more rare for there to be 4 (<3%). On a side note: Draw #966 (9/23/14) this sequence was 012345

          So with all that being said, all it gives you is a way to check your numbers before you play them and see if they fall into that general guideline. You're still going to have to have a crap load of luck to get the 10's positions matching. It's a PITA to try to play numbers while following this. But, if you have numbers in mind to play, apply the sequence rule to see if they're random enough.

          Another thing that can be observed is the number of times that drawn number repeats happen. It happens more often than you think, ~15%. The repeats happen in clusters, as well. Sometimes more than 1 number repeats, sometimes there are three-peats. Usually no more than 10 drawings go by without having a repeat.

          In reference to numbers being hot: It's a pretty safe assumption that at least 2 of the numbers in any draw will have had come up in the last 10 draws (sometimes more, sometimes less). Think of it as a more elaboate repeat.

          So going back to tonight's MM result. There was a farily good chance that there was going to be another repeat (cluster theory) , because 63 had repeated in the previous 2 drawings. and 9 was the repeat from the previous draw this time (good luck guessing that, right?). There was also a farily good chance that another 6-digit sequence was going to show, as the previous drawing was also a 6-digit sequence - There was a string of 20 drawings where it was only 4 or 5 (longer than any I've observed).

          ~8% you will see a Mega repeat. ~3% you will see the Mega match one of the winning numbers.

          ~7% of the time there will be sequential strings. ~0.25% a triple sequence, only once in 200 MM draws and more prevalent in games with less than 75 balls.

          An additional observation is that you can apply all of this to the Powerball or CA's Super Lotto Plus and see very similar results (though the mega counts are higher and will change the percentages of hits).

          Another observation is how often times the PB, SLP or MM mega (power) balls follow suite. Case in point, last PB drawing, the PB was 1 (same as this drawing for MM).

          odd/even breaks down to ~85% being either 3-3, 2-4, or 4-2. 5-1's or 1-5's hit ~14% and ~1% for 6-0, or 0-6. It is long overdue (50 draws) for a completely odd or even draw. But, keep in mind that it went 100 draws without one and there were 4 within the fist 50/200).

          Another thing I observe is how often there is either a 5 or 10 postion 'jump' between numbers. ~5% for both.

          Another way to observe the results is to mark up playslips with past results (just make sure you mark through the barcode so you don't accidentally play them - lol). It gives you an idea of the randomness. The number of times rows/columns have doubles/triples, row/column vacancy, how sometimes they're clusted together, how often numbers are diagonal from each other or 'stacked', shifting of a space or 2 from drawing to drawing, etc. Break up the matrix into quadrants and observe the hits and misses (for MM 3 columns each).

          With all that being said, you can observe till you're blue in the face. If it were that easy to anaylize past results and have 'smart-luck', there'd be heck of a lot more people hitting jackpots. To put it into perspective, a millisecond (one one millionth of a second) is to a second what 1 second is to 37 years. Multiply that by 275 and you start to see what you're up against. It's a wonder anybody ever hits a jackpot.

          So all that being said, 6 is long overdue for a Mega on Mega Millions and I predict it's going to come up with 6 in the sequence, as well. It wouldn't surprise me if it came up all evens, too. Heck, may as well make it a 3-digit sequence, too.

          Hi can you please explain about single digit weight sequence, if you can? I never heard of this approach, very interested, but sorry, I cant comprehend any of it from your post..

          Thank you!Smile

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            Posted: October 15, 2015, 6:09 pm - IP Logged

            It's not really an approach and definitely not a system.  It is merely an observation.  It is not speculation, it is fact.

            You can check it out for yourself by listing at least the past 20 draws for any jackpot game and write the sequence out for each draw.

            Main points about these sequences:

            • Unique number (<0.25% repeat)
            • Minimum number of digits is 3 (there have never been single or double digit draws)
            • 85% will be either 4 or 5 digits in length (meaning at least 1 or 2 digits typically repeat)
            • 85% 2 of the digits carry over to the next draw (meaning the balance will be digits that did not come up previously)
            • 80% the sequence will contain no triple sequential digit runs (even more rare for 4 digit sequential)
            • 70% will start with (contain) digits '0' or '1'

            It can't be used to predict, because you can't predict the length, the 10's positions, or which numbers carry over or get added.  At best, you can take a stab what is trending.

            As an example, if you have numbers in mind to play (or got them on a QP): 02-22-28-32-48 +12, I can tell you right off the bat, that has a minuscule chance of coming up because it has only a 2-digit sequence.

            The post I added above regarding the new PB playslips might make more sense.  Just replace the word 'digit' with the word 'column' for the bullet points above.

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              Posted: October 15, 2015, 6:36 pm - IP Logged

              It's not really an approach and definitely not a system.  It is merely an observation.  It is not speculation, it is fact.

              You can check it out for yourself by listing at least the past 20 draws for any jackpot game and write the sequence out for each draw.

              Main points about these sequences:

              • Unique number (<0.25% repeat)
              • Minimum number of digits is 3 (there have never been single or double digit draws)
              • 85% will be either 4 or 5 digits in length (meaning at least 1 or 2 digits typically repeat)
              • 85% 2 of the digits carry over to the next draw (meaning the balance will be digits that did not come up previously)
              • 80% the sequence will contain no triple sequential digit runs (even more rare for 4 digit sequential)
              • 70% will start with (contain) digits '0' or '1'

              It can't be used to predict, because you can't predict the length, the 10's positions, or which numbers carry over or get added.  At best, you can take a stab what is trending.

              As an example, if you have numbers in mind to play (or got them on a QP): 02-22-28-32-48 +12, I can tell you right off the bat, that has a minuscule chance of coming up because it has only a 2-digit sequence.

              The post I added above regarding the new PB playslips might make more sense.  Just replace the word 'digit' with the word 'column' for the bullet points above.

              Ok. Got it..

              Thank you very much!Smile

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                Posted: October 15, 2015, 11:16 pm - IP Logged

                I'd like to make a correction to the percentage of having 3 consecutive digits (originally stated as 80%).

                It should be stated that 20% of the time, the sequence WILL contain 3 consecutive (sequential) digits.  10% of the time the sequence WILL contain either 4 or 5 consecutive digits.

                 

                One other thing I've noticed about these sequences is that no more than 5 draws go by without seeing every digit (0-9) come up.  If you see 5 draws go by without a digit showing, its almost a given that it's coming up in the next draw.

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                  Posted: October 15, 2015, 11:22 pm - IP Logged

                  Ohio also has a 10x7 grid for its new PB play slip and a 5x6 for the bonus numbers. My software has a similar layout to help when making out play slips, in fact it has similar layouts to match the play slips of all the games I play.

                  Only problem is the software has to be updated every time the play slips design changes.  A couple of years ago Ohio changed vendors for its terminals and they change the 6/49 play slip from 10x5 grid to 5x10 and the software had to be updated even though the game didn't change.

                  The CA PB playslip has 10 x 3 grid for the PB selection, so everything falls into the same columns from the white ball selection above it.

                  I'm sure the playslips have some psychological impact on how numbers are chosen, and its probably in the lottery's favor.

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                    Here are the single digit weight sequences for the past 180 MM draws.  I tried to do them in column format, but this editor won't allow it.

                    Cut & Paste them into a word processor and put the into columns for easier viewing.

                    Any consecutive strings 3-digits or longer are underlined.

                     

                    124789

                    134589

                    1479

                    01289

                    1348

                    0158

                    1457

                    05679

                    01457

                    01679

                    12579

                    02345

                    03589

                    13459

                    1235

                    2379

                    01235

                    3789

                    01368

                    12479

                    02368

                    158

                    0236

                    01245

                    01567

                    02459

                    14578

                    45689

                    012349

                    013457

                    0237

                    02368

                    24568

                    46789

                    0126

                    567

                    01279

                    1239

                    026789

                    129

                    3458

                    01259

                    14567

                    02346

                    125679

                    127

                    134678

                    123578

                    4579

                    1359

                    01589

                    13578

                    12689

                    2456

                    023467

                    1368

                    013678

                    2345

                    01457

                    134578

                    02348

                    0349

                    0358

                    012349

                    03479

                    3456

                    2368

                    0156

                    045

                    123578

                    35678

                    123589

                    15689

                    4567

                    2458

                    13569

                    124568

                    01257

                    06789

                    024578

                    2345

                    2347

                    02458

                    01467

                    489

                    1238

                    125678

                    124579

                    1459

                    12389

                    06789

                    014679

                    2357

                    356789

                    123589

                    01358

                    156

                    1459

                    156789

                    123589

                    01358

                    156

                    1459

                    156789

                    01378

                    123458

                    1567

                    01236

                    145678

                    02359

                    25689

                    034678

                    12346

                    25679

                    012345

                    245679

                    1235

                    23678

                    0145

                    02479

                    12489

                    23568

                    0149

                    1345

                    125679

                    689

                    02368

                    015679

                    3568

                    234679

                    123468

                    12389

                    124578

                    23589

                    024567

                    0359

                    45789

                    23689

                    25789

                    01459

                    03457

                    123569

                    0347

                    16789

                    02467

                    279

                    24689

                    023

                    01368

                    012458

                    03479

                    01346

                    014678

                    01489

                    01578

                    013568

                    13679

                    013689

                    01289

                    3589

                    034679

                    23478

                    01356

                    01459

                    034589

                    0239

                    135679

                    0235

                    13479

                    02479

                    1379

                    0159

                    013689

                    2568

                    23569

                    013479

                    012578

                    1347

                    01345

                    03459

                    23789

                    023678

                    02567

                    23458

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                      Here are the single digit weight sequences for the past 180 MM draws.  I tried to do them in column format, but this editor won't allow it.

                      Cut & Paste them into a word processor and put the into columns for easier viewing.

                      Any consecutive strings 3-digits or longer are underlined.

                       

                      124789

                      134589

                      1479

                      01289

                      1348

                      0158

                      1457

                      05679

                      01457

                      01679

                      12579

                      02345

                      03589

                      13459

                      1235

                      2379

                      01235

                      3789

                      01368

                      12479

                      02368

                      158

                      0236

                      01245

                      01567

                      02459

                      14578

                      45689

                      012349

                      013457

                      0237

                      02368

                      24568

                      46789

                      0126

                      567

                      01279

                      1239

                      026789

                      129

                      3458

                      01259

                      14567

                      02346

                      125679

                      127

                      134678

                      123578

                      4579

                      1359

                      01589

                      13578

                      12689

                      2456

                      023467

                      1368

                      013678

                      2345

                      01457

                      134578

                      02348

                      0349

                      0358

                      012349

                      03479

                      3456

                      2368

                      0156

                      045

                      123578

                      35678

                      123589

                      15689

                      4567

                      2458

                      13569

                      124568

                      01257

                      06789

                      024578

                      2345

                      2347

                      02458

                      01467

                      489

                      1238

                      125678

                      124579

                      1459

                      12389

                      06789

                      014679

                      2357

                      356789

                      123589

                      01358

                      156

                      1459

                      156789

                      123589

                      01358

                      156

                      1459

                      156789

                      01378

                      123458

                      1567

                      01236

                      145678

                      02359

                      25689

                      034678

                      12346

                      25679

                      012345

                      245679

                      1235

                      23678

                      0145

                      02479

                      12489

                      23568

                      0149

                      1345

                      125679

                      689

                      02368

                      015679

                      3568

                      234679

                      123468

                      12389

                      124578

                      23589

                      024567

                      0359

                      45789

                      23689

                      25789

                      01459

                      03457

                      123569

                      0347

                      16789

                      02467

                      279

                      24689

                      023

                      01368

                      012458

                      03479

                      01346

                      014678

                      01489

                      01578

                      013568

                      13679

                      013689

                      01289

                      3589

                      034679

                      23478

                      01356

                      01459

                      034589

                      0239

                      135679

                      0235

                      13479

                      02479

                      1379

                      0159

                      013689

                      2568

                      23569

                      013479

                      012578

                      1347

                      01345

                      03459

                      23789

                      023678

                      02567

                      23458

                      What I need to learn is how do get strings from the draws for example today NY Eve draw was 964 how can I get a string from that sorry I am new that's why I am asking?

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                        What I need to learn is how do get strings from the draws for example today NY Eve draw was 964 how can I get a string from that sorry I am new that's why I am asking?

                        This sequence only applies to jackpot games with double digits numbers (basically breaking down the double digit value to a single digit weight).

                        I would imagine you'd see the same uniqueness for the results of Pick 3 games if you look over the past results.

                        This is the Jackpot Games sub-forum.  Maybe look in the Pick 3 forum for some ideas.

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                          "Spending $300 per drawing is a system even if you buying quick picks.

                          That is one of the most misleading statements I have ever heard!!  I would expect that from CT, but from you?"

                          Why?  I consider any strategy a player use to win a lottery as a system.  Are you saying the strategy of trying to buy all the possible combination the investment group that won the Virginia Lottery some years back wasn't a system?  Or the strategy the Michigan couple and the MIT group that brought lots of tickets to beat the Massachusetts Wind Fall game wasn't a system?

                          Personally I'm not a fan of wheeling as a system, the guaranteed matches aren't worth the cost of the wheels.  For example to have a guaranteed match3 in a 6/49 game you need a wheel with 163 lines and a match3 only pays $2-$5 most places and the odds of matching three are 1:57. 

                          Are you saying the strategy of trying to buy all the possible combination the investment group that won the Virginia Lottery some years back wasn't a system?

                          Well not if they bought all the possible combinations via QuickPicks.

                          Or the strategy the Michigan couple and the MIT group that brought lots of tickets to beat the Massachusetts Wind Fall game wasn't a system?

                          I don't know anything about that couple in Michigan, but I bet that the MIT group didn't buy QP either.

                          Personally I'm not a fan of wheeling as a system, the guaranteed matches aren't worth the cost of the wheels.  For example to have a guaranteed match3 in a 6/49 game you need a wheel with 163 lines and a match3 only pays $2-$5 most places and the odds of matching three are 1:57. 

                          Wheeling is not a system!!!  However you can create a system out of a wheel by the numbers you choose to place in that wheel.  There are many "common sense" ways to select your numbers.  However most lottery commissions unfairly pay out pittances for 3 of 6 wins, making staying in the game with winnings a fruitless and frustrating affair.

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                            Smile I just try to play the numbers that are more prone to fall than others.

                            You can do anything if you put your mind into it. The sky is the limit! Cool

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                              I would look to take about $50.00 to $100.00 to Play the Mega or Power Balls  and use these

                              1,2,3,4,5

                              6,7,8,9,0

                              And mirrors these numbers...

                              http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/233413    Sun Smiley Popular numbers

                              12345

                              67890

                              Use Mirror #'s Use prs. with your  Key* numbers the most Vivid thing in your dream go up or down on #'s.  Flip  6=9 `9=6  Bullseyes  0 or 1 for Pick 4 and the P. 5  Play the other part of doubles.  Do the Whole nine yards for a P. 4* P. 5*  or 0 thur 9  for P. 4  P. 5 from my dreams or hunches good Luck.. Write your Dreams down Play for 3 days.  Good Luck All.