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What's the best of way of picking numbers?

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What's the best of way of picking numbers?

Special dates [ 2 ]  [3.33%]
Lottery terminal quick picks [ 8 ]  [13.33%]
Online RNGs [ 2 ]  [3.33%]
Pure Randomness [ 10 ]  [16.67%]
Lottery research [ 27 ]  [45.00%]
Doesn't matter [ 6 ]  [10.00%]
Doesn't matter because you're not going to win [ 5 ]  [8.33%]
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Tialuvslotto's avatar - Jailin
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There is a site called Random.org that generates random numbers using atmospheric noise from telescope arrays -- supposedly has been analyzed and no patterns detected.  It will generate Quick Picks for any matrix/number of picks you specify.

Personally, I like to try to match the usual "signature" of the lottery -- e.g. usually first digit comes from this group, 2nd digit from that group (or whatever) -- but with some randomness injected into the number choices in each constrained slot on the ticket.

"There is no such thing as luck; only adequate or inadequate preparation to cope with a statistical universe."

~Robert A. Heinlein

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    Posted: December 1, 2015, 10:56 pm - IP Logged

    I used to use fortune cookie numbers, but every time I did I bought another line 30 minutes later.

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      There is a site called Random.org that generates random numbers using atmospheric noise from telescope arrays -- supposedly has been analyzed and no patterns detected.  It will generate Quick Picks for any matrix/number of picks you specify.

      Personally, I like to try to match the usual "signature" of the lottery -- e.g. usually first digit comes from this group, 2nd digit from that group (or whatever) -- but with some randomness injected into the number choices in each constrained slot on the ticket.

      i often use random.org to pick  numbers, but i do a list and just toss out any repeats till i have every number covered.

      2014 = -1016; 2015= -1409; 2016 JAN = -106; FEB= -81; MAR= -131; APR= - 87: MAY= -91; JUN= -39; JUL=-134; AUG= -124; SEP = -123; OCT= -84  NOV=- 73 TOT= -3498

      keno historic = -2291 ; 2015= -603; 2016= JAN=-32, FEB= +12 , MAR= -86, APR = -77. MAY= -48, JUN= -29, JUL=-71; AUG = -52; SEPT= -43; OCT = +56 NOV = -33 TOT= -3297

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        Posted: December 2, 2015, 10:04 am - IP Logged

        I've been thinking about this for awhile. While most people play and win with QPs from lottery terminals; you have no control over the numbers you're given. After all they could have come up in a previous drawing. I like to check my numbers on USA Mega (shameless plug) before playing them in a lottery. I don't like to play special dates like birthdays because it raises the chances of sharing a jackpot. I've been trying to research numbers with RNGs but have found patterns in the numbers because they use algorithms to produce combinations. I've mention before that I used to do lottery research by using past drawing results. However, I didn't have all that much luck and it drove me crazy. I've decided that the best way to pick numbers is pure randomness. I now choose my numbers by doing my own lottery drawings for MM and PB; bonus ball included. I want raw randomness like lottery drawings. What are your thoughts on this subject? Got my truck serviced and now heading to Illinois. Good luck to those playing Powerball tonight!

        If I play, I play quick picks unless it's our PA Treasure Hunt. JP games I usually hate unless the bug bites me to play which is

        rarely or just when the jp is high. I really hate those games so I try and stay away from them but the BIG $ is tempting..it can

        happen to anyone.

        Sometimes I'll mark the playslip with a self chosen number and let the comp fill in the rest or just simply ask for qp's.

        Do you travel in a lot of states? Maybe you could get one each time you're in a different state for extended draws...one play

        for a few weeks maybe? Just remember not to toss it after the first draw. Maybe you won't need it beyond that Banana GL!!

        246 ~~ 485 ~~ 369 ~~ 890 ~~ 705 ~~ 357 ~~ 129 ~~ 165 ~  007 ~ 225 ~ 818 ~ 440 ~  7775 5557

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          I've recently created an Excel program that automates everything for me, randomizing a set of numbers I've selected to play.  The program auto adds a power Power Number (key number) to play each game.  Sometimes this is random; sometimes I choose the Power Number.  No need to purchase any silly wheels or extraneous programs that claim guaranteed wins.  I've programmed several games into it, so far.

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            Posted: December 2, 2015, 1:29 pm - IP Logged

            With a Quick Pick win is only Luck.  I prefer to pick my own Numbers.  I believe in Divide and Conquer.  I use a system in which 2 groups of numbers are set by the previous draw.  I track the number of hits from each group and try to predict the Next numbers by getting the count right.  I posted the sequence in the Mathmatics Forum. 

            If I win I will feel like I worked for the Prize.

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              Posted: December 2, 2015, 2:13 pm - IP Logged

              I think it's foolish to ignore trends. 

              But, I don''t abandon QPs entirely.  If I do play QPs, I will also mark up a slip with those numbers and shift numbers around (like one or 2 rows/columns each).

              I think there's a balance to trusting your gut feeling, as well.

              There always seems to be some sense to the drawn numbers (with maybe the exception of an all high (or low) draw).  The goal is to try to make sense of them prior to the draw.  I haven't quite figured that part out . . .yet.  Stretch

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                Posted: December 2, 2015, 8:25 pm - IP Logged

                Yeah, I'm all over the eastern part of the country. I play MM, PB(I use my own numbers), Ohio's classic lotto, MO Lotto, Hoosier Lotto, Lotto Texas, Georgia's Jumbo Bucks, and Hot Lotto which is another multi-state game but smaller. I buy my tickets (quick picks) in bulk--for a lot of draws. I just bought 2 lines of Hot Lotto that will last me until Christmas. I'm somewhere in Oklahoma on my way to Texas. I need to load up on Lotto Texas tickets. I'd like to buy some Florida Lotto tickets but I hardly ever get there.

                May the balls bounce in your favor!


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                  Posted: December 4, 2015, 8:35 am - IP Logged

                  Always play trends (back to back number pairs) in MM or PB.  Trends have never lost, not once, ever.  It's foolproof.  The hard part is picking the right pair and the right +1 ball.

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                    A couple examples of trends:

                    In almost every JP draw, at least 2 of the drawn numbers have come up within the past 10-12 draws.  To further expand on that, 4 of the numbers will be repeats from within the past 20-25 draws.

                    In almost every JP draw, 3 of the drawn numbers will be within 5 digits (or less) from the previous drawn number sequence.

                    In almost every JP draw, at least 1 or 2 of the single-digit-weights of the numbers repeat.  example: 5-7-25-50-59 +12 (the 5's repeated)  Some draws you'll have 3 of them repeat (produces a 3-digit sequence for the draw).  In some draws, none will repeat (produces a 6-digit sequence).  This does little to help you narrow down the 10's positions.  But, no draw has ever consisted of just 1 or 2 single-digit weights showing in the sequence (same as saying 5 or 6 of the single-digit weights were repeats within the same draw).

                    ~8% of draws will have an exact repeat in back-to-back draws.  This number goes down proportionately to the count of white balls in the matrix.  Another thing that can be observed is the that the repeats seem to happen in clustered groups.  10-15 draws will go by with no repeats, then all of sudden there'll be 3 consecutive draws with repeats.  Sometimes there's even a three-peat or double repeat thrown into that clustered group. 

                    Actual MB/PB repeats seem to be ~3% (regardless of the PB/PB count in the matrix).  The same percentage applies to MB/PB matching a white ball within the same draw.

                    These are trends that can be tracked.  No speculation here.  Just the cold-hard facts.

                    If you want proof that the lotteries don't want you playing trends just look at the fact that none of the JP games (at least in CA) allow you to manually select several white balls and have QP select the balance.  Sure, you can isolate the white ball and PB/MB QPs as an option, but not within the white ball selection.

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                      A couple examples of trends:

                      In almost every JP draw, at least 2 of the drawn numbers have come up within the past 10-12 draws.  To further expand on that, 4 of the numbers will be repeats from within the past 20-25 draws.

                      In almost every JP draw, 3 of the drawn numbers will be within 5 digits (or less) from the previous drawn number sequence.

                      In almost every JP draw, at least 1 or 2 of the single-digit-weights of the numbers repeat.  example: 5-7-25-50-59 +12 (the 5's repeated)  Some draws you'll have 3 of them repeat (produces a 3-digit sequence for the draw).  In some draws, none will repeat (produces a 6-digit sequence).  This does little to help you narrow down the 10's positions.  But, no draw has ever consisted of just 1 or 2 single-digit weights showing in the sequence (same as saying 5 or 6 of the single-digit weights were repeats within the same draw).

                      ~8% of draws will have an exact repeat in back-to-back draws.  This number goes down proportionately to the count of white balls in the matrix.  Another thing that can be observed is the that the repeats seem to happen in clustered groups.  10-15 draws will go by with no repeats, then all of sudden there'll be 3 consecutive draws with repeats.  Sometimes there's even a three-peat or double repeat thrown into that clustered group. 

                      Actual MB/PB repeats seem to be ~3% (regardless of the PB/PB count in the matrix).  The same percentage applies to MB/PB matching a white ball within the same draw.

                      These are trends that can be tracked.  No speculation here.  Just the cold-hard facts.

                      If you want proof that the lotteries don't want you playing trends just look at the fact that none of the JP games (at least in CA) allow you to manually select several white balls and have QP select the balance.  Sure, you can isolate the white ball and PB/MB QPs as an option, but not within the white ball selection.

                      Are you claiming that you can defeat the lottery, if I gave you a way to manually choose several white balls and have the balance randomized?

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                        Posted: December 4, 2015, 6:04 pm - IP Logged

                        I used to use fortune cookie numbers, but every time I did I bought another line 30 minutes later.

                        Lol

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                          Posted: December 4, 2015, 7:16 pm - IP Logged

                          A couple examples of trends:

                          In almost every JP draw, at least 2 of the drawn numbers have come up within the past 10-12 draws.  To further expand on that, 4 of the numbers will be repeats from within the past 20-25 draws.

                          In almost every JP draw, 3 of the drawn numbers will be within 5 digits (or less) from the previous drawn number sequence.

                          In almost every JP draw, at least 1 or 2 of the single-digit-weights of the numbers repeat.  example: 5-7-25-50-59 +12 (the 5's repeated)  Some draws you'll have 3 of them repeat (produces a 3-digit sequence for the draw).  In some draws, none will repeat (produces a 6-digit sequence).  This does little to help you narrow down the 10's positions.  But, no draw has ever consisted of just 1 or 2 single-digit weights showing in the sequence (same as saying 5 or 6 of the single-digit weights were repeats within the same draw).

                          ~8% of draws will have an exact repeat in back-to-back draws.  This number goes down proportionately to the count of white balls in the matrix.  Another thing that can be observed is the that the repeats seem to happen in clustered groups.  10-15 draws will go by with no repeats, then all of sudden there'll be 3 consecutive draws with repeats.  Sometimes there's even a three-peat or double repeat thrown into that clustered group. 

                          Actual MB/PB repeats seem to be ~3% (regardless of the PB/PB count in the matrix).  The same percentage applies to MB/PB matching a white ball within the same draw.

                          These are trends that can be tracked.  No speculation here.  Just the cold-hard facts.

                          If you want proof that the lotteries don't want you playing trends just look at the fact that none of the JP games (at least in CA) allow you to manually select several white balls and have QP select the balance.  Sure, you can isolate the white ball and PB/MB QPs as an option, but not within the white ball selection.

                          Sure, you can isolate the white ball and PB/MB QPs as an option, but not within the white ball selection.

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                          I bought some MM tickets today.  In one space I selected 2 numbers, marked it qp and got a ticket with 2 numbers I picked, 3 random numbers and a random MB.

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                            Sure, you can isolate the white ball and PB/MB QPs as an option, but not within the white ball selection.

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                            I bought some MM tickets today.  In one space I selected 2 numbers, marked it qp and got a ticket with 2 numbers I picked, 3 random numbers and a random MB.

                            I've tried it on all 3 JP games in CA and the slips get rejected.  Don't let on to your lottery or they might get wiser.  LOL

                            I think it's a great way to narrow the odds and wish CA Lottery allowed it.  You still have to have a crap load of luck to guess the repeats, but its definitely better than playing completely random QPs.  Out of curiosity, I wonder if the remaining numbers they QP'ed for you were 'cold'.

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                              Are you claiming that you can defeat the lottery, if I gave you a way to manually choose several white balls and have the balance randomized?

                              If I could do that, I'd be off spending $$$ wads of cash.  LOL 

                              There are QP generators on the internet that are free, will do what you're saying, and will also allow you to define 'rejections' (cold numbers).

                              All I'm doing is looking at past results.  All JP games follow the same order of randomness.  Spit out past results (say 100 draws) for ANY JP game and you'll see the same applies to ALL of them. 

                              You can even see trends across different JP games.  Example: Many times the same numbers (sometimes more than one) come up between MB, PB and CA's SLP (this includes MB/PB matches).