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Do Rng Computers Know What Numbers Not To Pick?

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Posted: March 30, 2016, 5:29 pm - IP Logged

Been keeping track of Wisconsin supercash numbers for a very long time.  The trend seems to be a good strategy, but when the numbers come up, they seem to hit all around the hot numbers.  WI lottery says their computers are isolated and off-line to prevent hacking.   But somehow I think prior to the drawing, the computers know which numbers are most drawn and they pick other numbers to reduce winners.  Any computer geeks out there know whats going on?

Never give up.  Banana

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    Posted: March 30, 2016, 5:47 pm - IP Logged

    Interesting question.

    Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

    For a lead role in a cage?

     

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      Posted: March 30, 2016, 7:08 pm - IP Logged

      Been keeping track of Wisconsin supercash numbers for a very long time.  The trend seems to be a good strategy, but when the numbers come up, they seem to hit all around the hot numbers.  WI lottery says their computers are isolated and off-line to prevent hacking.   But somehow I think prior to the drawing, the computers know which numbers are most drawn and they pick other numbers to reduce winners.  Any computer geeks out there know whats going on?

      Yes they Do Know!

      They are programmed to NOT pick the Numbers You Are Playing!

      A mind once stretched by a new idea never returns to its original dimensions!

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        Posted: March 30, 2016, 7:13 pm - IP Logged

        Yes they Do Know!

        They are programmed to NOT pick the Numbers You Are Playing!

        That's wrong.

         

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          Posted: March 30, 2016, 7:34 pm - IP Logged

          Been keeping track of Wisconsin supercash numbers for a very long time.  The trend seems to be a good strategy, but when the numbers come up, they seem to hit all around the hot numbers.  WI lottery says their computers are isolated and off-line to prevent hacking.   But somehow I think prior to the drawing, the computers know which numbers are most drawn and they pick other numbers to reduce winners.  Any computer geeks out there know whats going on?

          What do you mean all around? Do you mean like right next to, in a sense that if 14 is hot, then it hits 13 and 15 often, or that it hits all over the place just not 14?

          If the latter than there is absolutely nothing unusual. Why would they keep hitting the same numbers.

          If the first, then one thing to note is that if anyone would be rigging, they would be extremely stupid to rig it in such a way to make the system draw numbers right next to the numbers that they are trying to avoid, instead of just any random number other than hot ones. 

          So it's probably just confirmation bias on your part. Randomness is extremely counter intuitive.

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            Been keeping track of Wisconsin supercash numbers for a very long time.  The trend seems to be a good strategy, but when the numbers come up, they seem to hit all around the hot numbers.  WI lottery says their computers are isolated and off-line to prevent hacking.   But somehow I think prior to the drawing, the computers know which numbers are most drawn and they pick other numbers to reduce winners.  Any computer geeks out there know whats going on?

            Its called PRETEST DRAWS..those highly illegal draws they take out and throw in the garbage and call them testing the machine...that is where your numbers picked will land most of the time!!!!!

            "Attention all Mathematicians: Check your degree at the door because when it comes to whole numbers you are the Amateur"

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              Its called PRETEST DRAWS..those highly illegal draws they take out and throw in the garbage and call them testing the machine...that is where your numbers picked will land most of the time!!!!!

              Pre-testing is so easy for lotteries to abuse with RNG machines. Most lotteries don't publish their pre-test results nor the detailed process of conducting them.

              For example, the PA Evening ball drawing is telecast live (well, most of the time) a mere two minutes after sales cut-off (close ~6:57; drawn ~6:59). Essentially leaving no time to run an extra "pre-test". However, the PA Day RNG drawing is sometime between 1:06 and 1:35ish. Sometimes, PA Day results are delayed; draw window is flexible. Leaves plenty of time to run extra pre-tests, change machines, discard results out that were supposedly "faulty", etc.

              It's all too easy for lotteries to abuse "pre-tests" and toss out results that aren't favorable without the public knowing. PA doesn't publish its pre-test procedures nor the numbers drawn in such pre-tests.

              • Is the number of pre-tests limited to a specific number?
              • Is the official drawing that counts set for a specific time?

              If answer to either is no, then it's a cinch for the lottery, such as Pennsylvania, to add an extra pre-test(s) as needed to get more favorable results without the public being the wiser.

              In my view, PA Pick 4 and Pick 5 would be the most likely to be manipulated by the PA Lottery itself due to the highly uneven wagers and overly large prize liabilities of frequently chosen numbers, such as 1111 and 77777, etc. In all likelihood, such manipulation wouldn't occur the first time a quad / quint is drawn. However, if there was a streak of such numbers being drawn, the lottery could resort to underhanded tactics to reduce prize liability, such as adding pre-tests. To be clear, there's no evidence of the PA Lottery manipulating drawings, but with so little transparency and minimal oversight, who knows?

              It's no wonder, even 13 years later after Day draws started, I still run across PA players who steer clear of the Day drawings due to lack of trust of the RNG drawing process. Furthermore, the PA Day drawing animations are a joke, and insults the intelligence of players.

              One would think after the Hot Lotto scandal, lotteries would be switching over to balls, but, by and large, they're sticking with / expanding use of RNG. A few more scandals may change that. Hopefully, that doesn't happen, but given the power of human greed, it's more likely than not there will be more RNG lottery scandals. Player beware. Fortunately, in many places, there are other gaming choices, such as casinos, while not perfect, generally, are more favorable for players.

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                Posted: March 30, 2016, 10:37 pm - IP Logged

                Yes they Do Know!

                They are programmed to NOT pick the Numbers You Are Playing!

                I like that lol, good humor

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                  Posted: March 31, 2016, 2:03 am - IP Logged

                  That's wrong.

                  I thought so too, but that is how it is!

                  A mind once stretched by a new idea never returns to its original dimensions!

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                    Posted: April 1, 2016, 4:00 am - IP Logged

                    I thought so too, but that is how it is!

                    Those terminals now come equipped with "positronic matrix brains" so they are ultra fast and highly intelligent they are sort of brainiacs, so much, that their computing potential borders on the esoteric, it can almost be said that they can predict the future and know the hidden past.

                    They are called "quantum processing brain chips" or "QPBS"

                    They used to be worth $100,000,000 a piece, but now they are about $10,000 each, extremely cheap.

                    That is thanks to the brand new "Nanobot" production industry, which in itself is sort of a miracle.

                    They were invented (the chips) by a genius "E. T. Van Vogt"

                    As to the Nanobots it was a gigantic joint effort by most of those of the "Egghead Group" an international association of "Machine Men" that is how they like to call themselves, but they are humans.

                    Well, that is all that I know about that!

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                      Posted: April 1, 2016, 5:10 am - IP Logged

                      That's wrong.

                      what do you mean ???

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                        Posted: April 1, 2016, 7:42 am - IP Logged

                        I'm with Raven on this one. I believe that the RNG machines know to draw any number that I haven't played!

                        "What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us"

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                          Posted: April 1, 2016, 8:21 am - IP Logged

                          OK I got an answer to my question. 

                          Two days ago I emailed the WI lottery and today got a reply.

                          My question:  Since the RNG computers are offline (to prevent hacking) how are the numbers transferred from the "isolated" RNG computer to the online mainframe which posts the winning numbers and determines how many winners there are?  Are they entered manually onto another computer?

                          Their reply:  Yes, the numbers are manually entered to another computer then double checked by an independent auditor.

                          So I guess there's no way for the computer program to know what numbers not to pick.  Thanks for all the input to my question anyway folks.

                          Never give up.  Banana

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                            computer only do what theyre programmed to do.  yeas thay can be programmed to  payout the least winners only. but do they? thats the problems with trusting them. as we have seen, they have been programmed to be exploited by insiders. and that is the problem. they cant be trusted to play fair.

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                              In my opinion there are  holes in the pick 3,4 and 5 games rng matrix...I trap my hits with  stunning  regularity...

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