Welcome Guest
You last visited November 21, 2017, 12:10 pm
All times shown are
Eastern Time (GMT-5:00)

Pick 3> Odds 1/1000,1/67 , 1/33 is your filter for str8

Topic closed. 63 replies. Last post 1 year ago by bigdaddy.

 Page 3 of 5

Belgium
Member #173932
March 26, 2016
1396 Posts
Offline
 Posted: July 28, 2016, 7:19 am - IP Logged

Are you still with 1:1000? I am at 1:800 and better.

United States
Member #59354
March 13, 2008
4379 Posts
Offline
 Posted: July 28, 2016, 10:57 am - IP Logged

Ideal>Total combo for P3 is 1000picks, hence the ratio is 1/1000. How do you interpret this from filter perspective? Is the ratio 1/1000 constant for each draw cycle with respect to what data size? Does the ratio 1/1000 assumes each pick will be drawn within 0 to 999 cycles? Can one assume, filtering previous 999 picks can get your  next str hit? That's this sound logical?.

Consider a scenario where you know the start date of pick 3 draws of  a State X, if current total draws is 999,can you with certainty wage the remaining pick? Can the ratio 1/1000 be  written as  First/1000?

In simulations I have found that it sometimes takes more than 3x before every combo shows at least once.

For larger number games it's even greater.   It's impossible to calculate a exact number of drawings it takes

before every possible combo shows at least once.   So for a pick-3 a good estimate would be at least 3000

but could be much higher.  With this in mind some lines will have a much greater hit rate than the expected

1 in 1000.

RL

....

United States
Member #116344
September 8, 2011
4151 Posts
Offline
 Posted: July 28, 2016, 9:27 pm - IP Logged

In simulations I have found that it sometimes takes more than 3x before every combo shows at least once.

For larger number games it's even greater.   It's impossible to calculate a exact number of drawings it takes

before every possible combo shows at least once.   So for a pick-3 a good estimate would be at least 3000

but could be much higher.  With this in mind some lines will have a much greater hit rate than the expected

1 in 1000.

RL

Is all about  ' The State of POOL'.  The prior picks does not tell you much about 1/1000, knowing the state of current pool does. With a every draw, the assumption of prior pool is 0123456789, eg, say my current draw is 123, the state of my current pool will be 8057916423, this will establish my prior pick of the ratio 1/1000.

Belgium
Member #173932
March 26, 2016
1396 Posts
Offline
 Posted: July 29, 2016, 8:25 am - IP Logged

Maybe someone of you wants to start calculating.

United States
Member #172977
February 11, 2016
515 Posts
Offline
 Posted: July 29, 2016, 1:20 pm - IP Logged

Are you still with 1:1000? I am at 1:800 and better.

How do you get to 1:800 or better?

United States
Member #172977
February 11, 2016
515 Posts
Offline
 Posted: July 29, 2016, 1:21 pm - IP Logged

Is all about  ' The State of POOL'.  The prior picks does not tell you much about 1/1000, knowing the state of current pool does. With a every draw, the assumption of prior pool is 0123456789, eg, say my current draw is 123, the state of my current pool will be 8057916423, this will establish my prior pick of the ratio 1/1000.

Are you able to explain how you get to the "current pool" above, and how you use that order of digits to establish your pick ratio??

New Mexico
United States
Member #86099
January 29, 2010
12024 Posts
Offline
 Posted: July 29, 2016, 2:50 pm - IP Logged

NM>Eve draws

{8,6,8} {8,6,3} {8,6,1} {8,6,7} {8,6,6} {8,6,2} {8,2,7} {8,2,6} {8,2,2} {{6,3,8} {6,1,8} {6,1,3} {6,1,1} {6,1,7} {6,1,6} {6,1,2} {6,2,2}

WI>{7,9,9} {7,9,6} {7,9,4} {7,9,2} {7,9,5} {7,9,7} } {7,4,9} {7,4,6} {7,4,4} {7,4,2} {7,4,5} {7,4,7}  {7,7,9} {7,7,6} {7,7,4} {7,7,2} {7,7,5} {7,7,7}

Good job 782 hit last night.

United States
Member #116344
September 8, 2011
4151 Posts
Offline
 Posted: July 29, 2016, 2:56 pm - IP Logged

Are you able to explain how you get to the "current pool" above, and how you use that order of digits to establish your pick ratio??

Probability for any parameter is not ' edge in stone', before you flip a coin, the assumed ratio is 50/50. This ratio has not been tested, but is deemed a fact. The question is, does this ratio remains constant for 10, 20,30,40.....N flips? What's PRIOR ratio of say a tail before the next flip(note that assumed ratio is deemed to be constant for each unique flip)?. You can have two graphs of  flips  of similar distribution, but the ratios of H and T will  change. P3 has assumed ratio(has not been tested) of 1/1000 for every draw, how is this ratio related to pool members 0123456789? Prior State of the POOL is the only option to keep the ratio 1/1000 constant. Analyzing 20,50,500,  1000 draws will not help much, unless your know the 'prior odd' of a parameter, this is not easy task in a random setting!

Lets illustrate the above with GA-3 (eve draws)

NB> every draw is unique, hence the STATE of digits of the pool(the size remains constant)

 Thu, Jul 28, 2016 3-9-0Prize Payouts Wed, Jul 27, 2016 5-0-0Prize Payouts Tue, Jul 26, 2016 1-9-7Prize Payouts Mon, Jul 25, 2016 0-0-9Prize Payouts Sun, Jul 24, 2016 3-2-1Prize Payouts Sat, Jul 23, 2016 6-1-0Prize Payouts Fri, Jul 22, 2016 8-6-8Prize Payouts Thu, Jul 21, 2016 3-7-5Prize Payouts Wed, Jul 20, 2016 6-0-1Prize Payouts Tue, Jul 19, 2016 7-8-5Prize Payouts Mon, Jul 18, 2016 3-7-6Prize Payouts Sun, Jul 17, 2016 0-9-1Prize Payouts Sat, Jul 16, 2016 6-9-7Prize Payouts Fri, Jul 15, 2016 6-4-5Prize Payouts Thu, Jul 14, 2016 3-1-5Prize Payouts Wed, Jul 13, 2016 3-6-0Prize Payouts Tue, Jul 12, 2016 5-3-0Prize Payouts Mon, Jul 11, 2016 0-9-9Prize Payouts Sun, Jul 10, 2016 3-3-2Prize Payouts Sat, Jul 9, 2016 3-7-2Prize Payouts Fri, Jul 8, 2016 9-0-5Prize Payouts Thu, Jul 7, 2016 9-1-7Prize Payouts Wed, Jul 6, 2016 8-0-3Prize Payouts Tue, Jul 5, 2016 4-7-9Prize Payouts Mon, Jul 4, 2016 9-7-3Prize Payouts Sun, Jul 3, 2016 8-8-9Prize Payouts Sat, Jul 2, 2016 1-1-2Prize Payouts Fri, Jul 1, 2016 6-6-7Prize Payouts Thu, Jun 30, 2016 2-1-9Prize Payouts Wed, Jun 29, 2016 3-8-1Prize Payouts Tue, Jun 28, 2016 6-0-5Prize Payouts Mon, Jun 27, 2016 2-9-6Prize Payouts Sun, Jun 26, 2016 6-8-2Prize Payouts Sat, Jun 25, 2016 7-7-5Prize Payouts Fri, Jun 24, 2016 0-2-5Prize Payouts Thu, Jun 23, 2016 8-3-0Prize Payouts Wed, Jun 22, 2016 7-7-8Prize Payouts Tue, Jun 21, 2016 0-1-8Prize Payouts Mon, Jun 20, 2016 7-7-5Prize Payouts Sun, Jun 19, 2016 2-0-1Prize Payouts

draw             current state

201               9437-815062

775               4921-365807

018               9437-581602

Observation>see the current states of just 3 draws for hits 296-219-973-479,  lets take each state at time.

For the 10 digits, the assumed ratio is 1/10, so we assume every digit a lead  from left to right for next predictions. 9437 can be in format 4C3 for 4 picks (hits 973-479) or 4C2 +remaining digits({9,4} {9,3} {9,7} {4,3} {4,7} {3,7}> front 97,47,37 as hits.

United States
Member #116344
September 8, 2011
4151 Posts
Offline
 Posted: July 29, 2016, 3:35 pm - IP Logged

Probability for any parameter is not ' edge in stone', before you flip a coin, the assumed ratio is 50/50. This ratio has not been tested, but is deemed a fact. The question is, does this ratio remains constant for 10, 20,30,40.....N flips? What's PRIOR ratio of say a tail before the next flip(note that assumed ratio is deemed to be constant for each unique flip)?. You can have two graphs of  flips  of similar distribution, but the ratios of H and T will  change. P3 has assumed ratio(has not been tested) of 1/1000 for every draw, how is this ratio related to pool members 0123456789? Prior State of the POOL is the only option to keep the ratio 1/1000 constant. Analyzing 20,50,500,  1000 draws will not help much, unless your know the 'prior odd' of a parameter, this is not easy task in a random setting!

Lets illustrate the above with GA-3 (eve draws)

NB> every draw is unique, hence the STATE of digits of the pool(the size remains constant)

 Thu, Jul 28, 2016 3-9-0Prize Payouts Wed, Jul 27, 2016 5-0-0Prize Payouts Tue, Jul 26, 2016 1-9-7Prize Payouts Mon, Jul 25, 2016 0-0-9Prize Payouts Sun, Jul 24, 2016 3-2-1Prize Payouts Sat, Jul 23, 2016 6-1-0Prize Payouts Fri, Jul 22, 2016 8-6-8Prize Payouts Thu, Jul 21, 2016 3-7-5Prize Payouts Wed, Jul 20, 2016 6-0-1Prize Payouts Tue, Jul 19, 2016 7-8-5Prize Payouts Mon, Jul 18, 2016 3-7-6Prize Payouts Sun, Jul 17, 2016 0-9-1Prize Payouts Sat, Jul 16, 2016 6-9-7Prize Payouts Fri, Jul 15, 2016 6-4-5Prize Payouts Thu, Jul 14, 2016 3-1-5Prize Payouts Wed, Jul 13, 2016 3-6-0Prize Payouts Tue, Jul 12, 2016 5-3-0Prize Payouts Mon, Jul 11, 2016 0-9-9Prize Payouts Sun, Jul 10, 2016 3-3-2Prize Payouts Sat, Jul 9, 2016 3-7-2Prize Payouts Fri, Jul 8, 2016 9-0-5Prize Payouts Thu, Jul 7, 2016 9-1-7Prize Payouts Wed, Jul 6, 2016 8-0-3Prize Payouts Tue, Jul 5, 2016 4-7-9Prize Payouts Mon, Jul 4, 2016 9-7-3Prize Payouts Sun, Jul 3, 2016 8-8-9Prize Payouts Sat, Jul 2, 2016 1-1-2Prize Payouts Fri, Jul 1, 2016 6-6-7Prize Payouts Thu, Jun 30, 2016 2-1-9Prize Payouts Wed, Jun 29, 2016 3-8-1Prize Payouts Tue, Jun 28, 2016 6-0-5Prize Payouts Mon, Jun 27, 2016 2-9-6Prize Payouts Sun, Jun 26, 2016 6-8-2Prize Payouts Sat, Jun 25, 2016 7-7-5Prize Payouts Fri, Jun 24, 2016 0-2-5Prize Payouts Thu, Jun 23, 2016 8-3-0Prize Payouts Wed, Jun 22, 2016 7-7-8Prize Payouts Tue, Jun 21, 2016 0-1-8Prize Payouts Mon, Jun 20, 2016 7-7-5Prize Payouts Sun, Jun 19, 2016 2-0-1Prize Payouts

draw             current state

201               9437-815062

775               4921-365807

018               9437-581602

Observation>see the current states of just 3 draws for hits 296-219-973-479,  lets take each state at time.

For the 10 digits, the assumed ratio is 1/10, so we assume every digit a lead  from left to right for next predictions. 9437 can be in format 4C3 for 4 picks (hits 973-479) or 4C2 +remaining digits({9,4} {9,3} {9,7} {4,3} {4,7} {3,7}> front 97,47,37 as hits.

GA-4(Eve)

Draw Date  Results
Thu, Jul 28, 20165-7-0-9Prize Payouts
Wed, Jul 27, 20163-9-2-1Prize Payouts
Tue, Jul 26, 20163-3-7-5Prize Payouts
Mon, Jul 25, 20161-2-8-6Prize Payouts
Sun, Jul 24, 20163-0-0-3Prize Payouts
Sat, Jul 23, 20161-1-0-3Prize Payouts
Fri, Jul 22, 20164-4-6-5Prize Payouts
Thu, Jul 21, 20167-1-6-6Prize Payouts
Wed, Jul 20, 20161-1-4-6Prize Payouts
Tue, Jul 19, 20163-1-9-1Prize Payouts
Mon, Jul 18, 20161-7-1-2Prize Payouts
Sun, Jul 17, 20164-5-1-3Prize Payouts
Sat, Jul 16, 20161-0-3-2Prize Payouts
Fri, Jul 15, 20163-0-4-1Prize Payouts
Thu, Jul 14, 20160-9-3-7Prize Payouts
Wed, Jul 13, 20167-1-4-7Prize Payouts
Tue, Jul 12, 20169-2-5-6Prize Payouts
Mon, Jul 11, 20163-6-2-3Prize Payouts
Sun, Jul 10, 20165-4-5-9Prize Payouts
Sat, Jul 9, 20166-2-8-9Prize Payouts
Fri, Jul 8, 20166-4-5-9Prize Payouts
Thu, Jul 7, 20164-6-2-0Prize Payouts
Wed, Jul 6, 20164-9-3-7Prize Payouts
Tue, Jul 5, 20161-5-7-1Prize Payouts
Mon, Jul 4, 20160-1-0-0Prize Payouts
Sun, Jul 3, 20164-5-9-0Prize Payouts
Sat, Jul 2, 20165-0-4-6Prize Payouts
Fri, Jul 1, 20162-8-0-9Prize Payouts
Thu, Jun 30, 20167-8-6-7Prize Payouts
Wed, Jun 29, 20169-1-4-6Prize Payouts
Tue, Jun 28, 20169-3-7-9Prize Payouts
Mon, Jun 27, 20168-9-4-8Prize Payouts
Sun, Jun 26, 20167-1-9-5Prize Payouts
Sat, Jun 25, 20162-1-2-6Prize Payouts
Fri, Jun 24, 20162-5-4-1Prize Payouts
Thu, Jun 23, 20169-3-2-8Prize Payouts
Wed, Jun 22, 20162-6-2-9Prize Payouts
Tue, Jun 21, 20164-7-6-8Prize Payouts
Mon, Jun 20, 20160-1-6-0Prize Payouts
Sun, Jun 19, 20163-5-3-3Prize Payouts

3533>1065-982733---

0160>9437-580216

4768>5392-106847

observation> A triad of first four digits or 24 way quads get you a str hits  > 0160-9328-9379-4937-0937-3921. Is about about current phase of the pool.Find a parameter to simulate the pool, good luck.

Belgium
Member #173932
March 26, 2016
1396 Posts
Offline
 Posted: July 29, 2016, 7:23 pm - IP Logged

How do you get to 1:800 or better?

I have a degree for mathematical algorithms.

United States
Member #172977
February 11, 2016
515 Posts
Offline
 Posted: July 29, 2016, 7:28 pm - IP Logged

Maybe this stuff is just a little beyond my comprehension. I don't see where you are getting the numbers listed under "current state"

United States
Member #172977
February 11, 2016
515 Posts
Offline
 Posted: July 29, 2016, 7:29 pm - IP Logged

I have a degree for mathematical algorithms.

A degree in mathematical algorithms allows you to exclude 200 potential combos each draw?

Belgium
Member #173932
March 26, 2016
1396 Posts
Offline
 Posted: July 29, 2016, 7:31 pm - IP Logged

You don't play each draw. 1:1000 is the average of something.

But, effectively, there is a way to win average with a fair payout, playing every time.

United States
Member #172977
February 11, 2016
515 Posts
Offline
 Posted: July 29, 2016, 7:42 pm - IP Logged

You don't play each draw. 1:1000 is the average of something.

But, effectively, there is a way to win average with a fair payout, playing every time.

I believe odds expression is 1:999, being 1 potential positive result against 999 potential negative results, with each result having the same chance of occurring.

You may not play every draw, but every draw you do play still has the same odds with one play, 1:999.