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• Sunglasses

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  Are you still with 1:1000? I am at 1:800 and better.
• RL-RANDOMLOGIC

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  Quote: Originally posted by adobea78 on Jul 16, 2016

  Ideal>Total combo for P3 is 1000picks, hence the ratio is 1/1000. How do you interpret this from filter perspective? Is the ratio 1/1000 constant for each draw cycle with respect to what data size? Does the ratio 1/1000 assumes each pick will be drawn within 0 to 999 cycles? Can one assume, filtering previous 999 picks can get your  next str hit? That's this sound logical?.

  Consider a scenario where you know the start date of pick 3 draws of  a State X, if current total draws is 999,can you with certainty wage the remaining pick? Can the ratio 1/1000 be  written as  First/1000?

  Your comments  before I continue.

  In simulations I have found that it sometimes takes more than 3x before every combo shows at least once.

  For larger number games it's even greater.   It's impossible to calculate a exact number of drawings it takes

  before every possible combo shows at least once.   So for a pick-3 a good estimate would be at least 3000

  but could be much higher.  With this in mind some lines will have a much greater hit rate than the expected

  1 in 1000.

  RL

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• adobea78

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Jul 28, 2016

  In simulations I have found that it sometimes takes more than 3x before every combo shows at least once.

  For larger number games it's even greater.   It's impossible to calculate a exact number of drawings it takes

  before every possible combo shows at least once.   So for a pick-3 a good estimate would be at least 3000

  but could be much higher.  With this in mind some lines will have a much greater hit rate than the expected

  1 in 1000.

  RL

  Is all about  ' The State of POOL'.  The prior picks does not tell you much about 1/1000, knowing the state of current pool does. With a every draw, the assumption of prior pool is 0123456789, eg, say my current draw is 123, the state of my current pool will be 8057916423, this will establish my prior pick of the ratio 1/1000.
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  Maybe someone of you wants to start calculating.
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  Are you still with 1:1000? I am at 1:800 and better.

  How do you get to 1:800 or better?
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  Is all about  ' The State of POOL'.  The prior picks does not tell you much about 1/1000, knowing the state of current pool does. With a every draw, the assumption of prior pool is 0123456789, eg, say my current draw is 123, the state of my current pool will be 8057916423, this will establish my prior pick of the ratio 1/1000.

  Are you able to explain how you get to the "current pool" above, and how you use that order of digits to establish your pick ratio??
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  Quote: Originally posted by adobea78 on Jul 27, 2016

  NM>Eve draws

  {8,6,8} {8,6,3} {8,6,1} {8,6,7} {8,6,6} {8,6,2} {8,2,7} {8,2,6} {8,2,2} {{6,3,8} {6,1,8} {6,1,3} {6,1,1} {6,1,7} {6,1,6} {6,1,2} {6,2,2} 

  WI>{7,9,9} {7,9,6} {7,9,4} {7,9,2} {7,9,5} {7,9,7} } {7,4,9} {7,4,6} {7,4,4} {7,4,2} {7,4,5} {7,4,7}  {7,7,9} {7,7,6} {7,7,4} {7,7,2} {7,7,5} {7,7,7}

  Good job 782 hit last night.

  I'm sitting here listening to Merle Haggard sipping some coffee!

   

  
• adobea78

  

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  Are you able to explain how you get to the "current pool" above, and how you use that order of digits to establish your pick ratio??

  Probability for any parameter is not ' edge in stone', before you flip a coin, the assumed ratio is 50/50. This ratio has not been tested, but is deemed a fact. The question is, does this ratio remains constant for 10, 20,30,40.....N flips? What's PRIOR ratio of say a tail before the next flip(note that assumed ratio is deemed to be constant for each unique flip)?. You can have two graphs of  flips  of similar distribution, but the ratios of H and T will  change. P3 has assumed ratio(has not been tested) of 1/1000 for every draw, how is this ratio related to pool members 0123456789? Prior State of the POOL is the only option to keep the ratio 1/1000 constant. Analyzing 20,50,500,  1000 draws will not help much, unless your know the 'prior odd' of a parameter, this is not easy task in a random setting!

  Lets illustrate the above with GA-3 (eve draws)

  NB> every draw is unique, hence the STATE of digits of the pool(the size remains constant)

  Thu, Jul 28, 2016	3-9-0Prize Payouts
  Wed, Jul 27, 2016	5-0-0Prize Payouts
  Tue, Jul 26, 2016	1-9-7Prize Payouts
  Mon, Jul 25, 2016	0-0-9Prize Payouts
  Sun, Jul 24, 2016	3-2-1Prize Payouts
  Sat, Jul 23, 2016	6-1-0Prize Payouts
  Fri, Jul 22, 2016	8-6-8Prize Payouts
  Thu, Jul 21, 2016	3-7-5Prize Payouts
  Wed, Jul 20, 2016	6-0-1Prize Payouts
  Tue, Jul 19, 2016	7-8-5Prize Payouts
  Mon, Jul 18, 2016	3-7-6Prize Payouts
  Sun, Jul 17, 2016	0-9-1Prize Payouts
  Sat, Jul 16, 2016	6-9-7Prize Payouts
  Fri, Jul 15, 2016	6-4-5Prize Payouts
  Thu, Jul 14, 2016	3-1-5Prize Payouts
  Wed, Jul 13, 2016	3-6-0Prize Payouts
  Tue, Jul 12, 2016	5-3-0Prize Payouts
  Mon, Jul 11, 2016	0-9-9Prize Payouts
  Sun, Jul 10, 2016	3-3-2Prize Payouts
  Sat, Jul 9, 2016	3-7-2Prize Payouts
  Fri, Jul 8, 2016	9-0-5Prize Payouts
  Thu, Jul 7, 2016	9-1-7Prize Payouts
  Wed, Jul 6, 2016	8-0-3Prize Payouts
  Tue, Jul 5, 2016	4-7-9Prize Payouts
  Mon, Jul 4, 2016	9-7-3Prize Payouts
  Sun, Jul 3, 2016	8-8-9Prize Payouts
  Sat, Jul 2, 2016	1-1-2Prize Payouts
  Fri, Jul 1, 2016	6-6-7Prize Payouts
  Thu, Jun 30, 2016	2-1-9Prize Payouts
  Wed, Jun 29, 2016	3-8-1Prize Payouts
  Tue, Jun 28, 2016	6-0-5Prize Payouts
  Mon, Jun 27, 2016	2-9-6Prize Payouts
  Sun, Jun 26, 2016	6-8-2Prize Payouts
  Sat, Jun 25, 2016	7-7-5Prize Payouts
  Fri, Jun 24, 2016	0-2-5Prize Payouts
  Thu, Jun 23, 2016	8-3-0Prize Payouts
  Wed, Jun 22, 2016	7-7-8Prize Payouts
  Tue, Jun 21, 2016	0-1-8Prize Payouts
  Mon, Jun 20, 2016	7-7-5Prize Payouts
  Sun, Jun 19, 2016	2-0-1Prize Payouts

  draw             current state

  201               9437-815062

  775               4921-365807

  018               9437-581602

   

   

   

  Observation>see the current states of just 3 draws for hits 296-219-973-479,  lets take each state at time.

  For the 10 digits, the assumed ratio is 1/10, so we assume every digit a lead  from left to right for next predictions. 9437 can be in format 4C₃ for 4 picks (hits 973-479) or 4C_{2 +remaining digits({9,4} {9,3} {9,7} {4,3} {4,7} {3,7}> front 97,47,37 as hits.}
• adobea78

  

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  Probability for any parameter is not ' edge in stone', before you flip a coin, the assumed ratio is 50/50. This ratio has not been tested, but is deemed a fact. The question is, does this ratio remains constant for 10, 20,30,40.....N flips? What's PRIOR ratio of say a tail before the next flip(note that assumed ratio is deemed to be constant for each unique flip)?. You can have two graphs of  flips  of similar distribution, but the ratios of H and T will  change. P3 has assumed ratio(has not been tested) of 1/1000 for every draw, how is this ratio related to pool members 0123456789? Prior State of the POOL is the only option to keep the ratio 1/1000 constant. Analyzing 20,50,500,  1000 draws will not help much, unless your know the 'prior odd' of a parameter, this is not easy task in a random setting!

  Lets illustrate the above with GA-3 (eve draws)

  NB> every draw is unique, hence the STATE of digits of the pool(the size remains constant)

  Thu, Jul 28, 2016	3-9-0Prize Payouts
  Wed, Jul 27, 2016	5-0-0Prize Payouts
  Tue, Jul 26, 2016	1-9-7Prize Payouts
  Mon, Jul 25, 2016	0-0-9Prize Payouts
  Sun, Jul 24, 2016	3-2-1Prize Payouts
  Sat, Jul 23, 2016	6-1-0Prize Payouts
  Fri, Jul 22, 2016	8-6-8Prize Payouts
  Thu, Jul 21, 2016	3-7-5Prize Payouts
  Wed, Jul 20, 2016	6-0-1Prize Payouts
  Tue, Jul 19, 2016	7-8-5Prize Payouts
  Mon, Jul 18, 2016	3-7-6Prize Payouts
  Sun, Jul 17, 2016	0-9-1Prize Payouts
  Sat, Jul 16, 2016	6-9-7Prize Payouts
  Fri, Jul 15, 2016	6-4-5Prize Payouts
  Thu, Jul 14, 2016	3-1-5Prize Payouts
  Wed, Jul 13, 2016	3-6-0Prize Payouts
  Tue, Jul 12, 2016	5-3-0Prize Payouts
  Mon, Jul 11, 2016	0-9-9Prize Payouts
  Sun, Jul 10, 2016	3-3-2Prize Payouts
  Sat, Jul 9, 2016	3-7-2Prize Payouts
  Fri, Jul 8, 2016	9-0-5Prize Payouts
  Thu, Jul 7, 2016	9-1-7Prize Payouts
  Wed, Jul 6, 2016	8-0-3Prize Payouts
  Tue, Jul 5, 2016	4-7-9Prize Payouts
  Mon, Jul 4, 2016	9-7-3Prize Payouts
  Sun, Jul 3, 2016	8-8-9Prize Payouts
  Sat, Jul 2, 2016	1-1-2Prize Payouts
  Fri, Jul 1, 2016	6-6-7Prize Payouts
  Thu, Jun 30, 2016	2-1-9Prize Payouts
  Wed, Jun 29, 2016	3-8-1Prize Payouts
  Tue, Jun 28, 2016	6-0-5Prize Payouts
  Mon, Jun 27, 2016	2-9-6Prize Payouts
  Sun, Jun 26, 2016	6-8-2Prize Payouts
  Sat, Jun 25, 2016	7-7-5Prize Payouts
  Fri, Jun 24, 2016	0-2-5Prize Payouts
  Thu, Jun 23, 2016	8-3-0Prize Payouts
  Wed, Jun 22, 2016	7-7-8Prize Payouts
  Tue, Jun 21, 2016	0-1-8Prize Payouts
  Mon, Jun 20, 2016	7-7-5Prize Payouts
  Sun, Jun 19, 2016	2-0-1Prize Payouts

  draw             current state

  201               9437-815062

  775               4921-365807

  018               9437-581602

   

   

   

  Observation>see the current states of just 3 draws for hits 296-219-973-479,  lets take each state at time.

  For the 10 digits, the assumed ratio is 1/10, so we assume every digit a lead  from left to right for next predictions. 9437 can be in format 4C₃ for 4 picks (hits 973-479) or 4C_{2 +remaining digits({9,4} {9,3} {9,7} {4,3} {4,7} {3,7}> front 97,47,37 as hits.}

  GA-4(Eve)

  Draw Date	Results
  Thu, Jul 28, 2016	5-7-0-9Prize Payouts
  Wed, Jul 27, 2016	3-9-2-1Prize Payouts
  Tue, Jul 26, 2016	3-3-7-5Prize Payouts
  Mon, Jul 25, 2016	1-2-8-6Prize Payouts
  Sun, Jul 24, 2016	3-0-0-3Prize Payouts
  Sat, Jul 23, 2016	1-1-0-3Prize Payouts
  Fri, Jul 22, 2016	4-4-6-5Prize Payouts
  Thu, Jul 21, 2016	7-1-6-6Prize Payouts
  Wed, Jul 20, 2016	1-1-4-6Prize Payouts
  Tue, Jul 19, 2016	3-1-9-1Prize Payouts
  Mon, Jul 18, 2016	1-7-1-2Prize Payouts
  Sun, Jul 17, 2016	4-5-1-3Prize Payouts
  Sat, Jul 16, 2016	1-0-3-2Prize Payouts
  Fri, Jul 15, 2016	3-0-4-1Prize Payouts
  Thu, Jul 14, 2016	0-9-3-7Prize Payouts
  Wed, Jul 13, 2016	7-1-4-7Prize Payouts
  Tue, Jul 12, 2016	9-2-5-6Prize Payouts
  Mon, Jul 11, 2016	3-6-2-3Prize Payouts
  Sun, Jul 10, 2016	5-4-5-9Prize Payouts
  Sat, Jul 9, 2016	6-2-8-9Prize Payouts
  Fri, Jul 8, 2016	6-4-5-9Prize Payouts
  Thu, Jul 7, 2016	4-6-2-0Prize Payouts
  Wed, Jul 6, 2016	4-9-3-7Prize Payouts
  Tue, Jul 5, 2016	1-5-7-1Prize Payouts
  Mon, Jul 4, 2016	0-1-0-0Prize Payouts
  Sun, Jul 3, 2016	4-5-9-0Prize Payouts
  Sat, Jul 2, 2016	5-0-4-6Prize Payouts
  Fri, Jul 1, 2016	2-8-0-9Prize Payouts
  Thu, Jun 30, 2016	7-8-6-7Prize Payouts
  Wed, Jun 29, 2016	9-1-4-6Prize Payouts
  Tue, Jun 28, 2016	9-3-7-9Prize Payouts
  Mon, Jun 27, 2016	8-9-4-8Prize Payouts
  Sun, Jun 26, 2016	7-1-9-5Prize Payouts
  Sat, Jun 25, 2016	2-1-2-6Prize Payouts
  Fri, Jun 24, 2016	2-5-4-1Prize Payouts
  Thu, Jun 23, 2016	9-3-2-8Prize Payouts
  Wed, Jun 22, 2016	2-6-2-9Prize Payouts
  Tue, Jun 21, 2016	4-7-6-8Prize Payouts
  Mon, Jun 20, 2016	0-1-6-0Prize Payouts
  Sun, Jun 19, 2016	3-5-3-3Prize Payouts

  3533>1065-982733---

  0160>9437-580216

  4768>5392-106847

  observation> A triad of first four digits or 24 way quads get you a str hits  > 0160-9328-9379-4937-0937-3921. Is about about current phase of the pool.Find a parameter to simulate the pool, good luck.
• Sunglasses

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  How do you get to 1:800 or better?

  I have a degree for mathematical algorithms.
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  Maybe this stuff is just a little beyond my comprehension. I don't see where you are getting the numbers listed under "current state"
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  Quote: Originally posted by Sunglasses on Jul 29, 2016

  I have a degree for mathematical algorithms.

  A degree in mathematical algorithms allows you to exclude 200 potential combos each draw?
• Sunglasses

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  You don't play each draw. 1:1000 is the average of something.

  But, effectively, there is a way to win average with a fair payout, playing every time.
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  You don't play each draw. 1:1000 is the average of something.

  But, effectively, there is a way to win average with a fair payout, playing every time.

  I believe odds expression is 1:999, being 1 potential positive result against 999 potential negative results, with each result having the same chance of occurring.

  You may not play every draw, but every draw you do play still has the same odds with one play, 1:999.
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  The ratio 1/1000 refers to discrete values, and is constant per each draw. Average of something refers to central tendency of a selected parameter. Now the parameter in question here is a 'triad'(discrete value) of statistical combinatorial of 10 digits where 3 is selected at a time. The assumption is every triad has chance of coming within 1 to 1000 draws--this is not always true, because 1/1000 is assumed prior ratio yet to be tested. The problem is, in analyzing a data, the prior ratio of parameter in question is hard to calculate.