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# Pick 3> Odds 1/1000,1/67 , 1/33 is your filter for str8

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The ratio 1/1000 refers to discrete values, and is constant per each draw. Average of something refers to central tendency of a selected parameter. Now the parameter in question here is a 'triad'(discrete value) of statistical combinatorial of 10 digits where 3 is selected at a time. The assumption is every triad has chance of coming within 1 to 1000 draws--this is not always true, because 1/1000 is assumed prior ratio yet to be tested. The problem is, in analyzing a data, the prior ratio of parameter in question is hard to calculate.

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The ratio 1/1000 refers to discrete values, and is constant per each draw. Average of something refers to central tendency of a selected parameter. Now the parameter in question here is a 'triad'(discrete value) of statistical combinatorial of 10 digits where 3 is selected at a time. The assumption is every triad has chance of coming within 1 to 1000 draws--this is not always true, because 1/1000 is assumed prior ratio yet to be tested. The problem is, in analyzing a data, the prior ratio of parameter in question is hard to calculate.

I guess I don't understand why you are using words and language that just make this more difficult to understand what you are saying.

The assumption is every triad (combo) has a chance of coming within 1 to 1000 draws. This is true. A chance. These things can be calculated. An outcome (combo) with 1 in 1000 chance of occurring in a single event (draw), has approximately a 63% chance of occurring once or more in 1000 draws: 1-(.999^1000).

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I guess I don't understand why you are using words and language that just make this more difficult to understand what you are saying.

The assumption is every triad (combo) has a chance of coming within 1 to 1000 draws. This is true. A chance. These things can be calculated. An outcome (combo) with 1 in 1000 chance of occurring in a single event (draw), has approximately a 63% chance of occurring once or more in 1000 draws: 1-(.999^1000).

Where did you get the ratio 1/1000? Has this  ratio been tested? . The ratio is assumption from the binomial format NCr.  Sure, things can be calculate in theory, but the actual percentage occurrence  of a combo may vary.-Why do you have frequent combos within 1 to 1000 threshold?, why do all the combos goes beyond or below the 1000 threshold?

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I guess I don't understand why you are using words and language that just make this more difficult to understand what you are saying.

The assumption is every triad (combo) has a chance of coming within 1 to 1000 draws. This is true. A chance. These things can be calculated. An outcome (combo) with 1 in 1000 chance of occurring in a single event (draw), has approximately a 63% chance of occurring once or more in 1000 draws: 1-(.999^1000).

I guess I don't understand why you are using words and language that just make this more difficult to understand what you are saying.

I did give a clue to the formation of  current pool in most of my threads, a system forum is not limited to step by step method, is also putting ideal out for people to discern information.

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I guess I don't understand why you are using words and language that just make this more difficult to understand what you are saying.

I did give a clue to the formation of  current pool in most of my threads, a system forum is not limited to step by step method, is also putting ideal out for people to discern information.

Sure, but if you would like people to understand what you are saying, you may want to consider using simpler, more precise language. Just a humble suggestion.

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Where did you get the ratio 1/1000? Has this  ratio been tested? . The ratio is assumption from the binomial format NCr.  Sure, things can be calculate in theory, but the actual percentage occurrence  of a combo may vary.-Why do you have frequent combos within 1 to 1000 threshold?, why do all the combos goes beyond or below the 1000 threshold?

I got the ratio 1/1000 from the entire game concept of pick 3. The concept of the game is that each draw, each digit is randomly selected from digits 0-9. Perhaps you don't believe the concept of the game is accurate, either intentionally or unintentionally. If it is not accurate, then that would certainly change the game ratios. I obtained the 1/1000 ratio under the assumption that the stated concept of the game is accurate.

Sometimes a combo occurs more often than once every 1000 draws, sometimes less often. This phenomenon is just how probabilities work, when you are evaluating the probabilities of future truly random events. If the results were a certainty, such that for certain a combo would occur once in ever 1000 draws, then I think we would call the ratios certainties rather than probabilities. Also, the selections of digits would not then be random.

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I got the ratio 1/1000 from the entire game concept of pick 3. The concept of the game is that each draw, each digit is randomly selected from digits 0-9. Perhaps you don't believe the concept of the game is accurate, either intentionally or unintentionally. If it is not accurate, then that would certainly change the game ratios. I obtained the 1/1000 ratio under the assumption that the stated concept of the game is accurate.

Sometimes a combo occurs more often than once every 1000 draws, sometimes less often. This phenomenon is just how probabilities work, when you are evaluating the probabilities of future truly random events. If the results were a certainty, such that for certain a combo would occur once in ever 1000 draws, then I think we would call the ratios certainties rather than probabilities. Also, the selections of digits would not then be random.

Sometimes a combo occurs more often than once every 1000 draws, sometimes less often. This phenomenon is just how probabilities work, when you are evaluating the probabilities of future truly random events.

I subscribe to the premise of the game, the issue is understanding ratios of a parameter. Lets say a State  X has a game with regulation 10C6 (with digit replacement), the ratio 1/1000000 can be calculated in theory, how do you test this ratio? What's is your understanding of this ratio? When you flip a coin, the ratio 50/50 is assumed before the first flip, how do you to test or verify this prior ratio? Knowing the prior ratio of  X is  the issue.

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I believe odds expression is 1:999, being 1 potential positive result against 999 potential negative results, with each result having the same chance of occurring.

You may not play every draw, but every draw you do play still has the same odds with one play, 1:999.

How do you find 1:999?

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How do you find 1:999?

If you play one straight combo, there is 1 potential outcome in which you win, and 999 potential outcomes in which you lose. In odds lingo, the : symbol puts positive results on one side, negative results on the other side. Basically.

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NM>Eve draws

{8,6,8} {8,6,3} {8,6,1} {8,6,7} {8,6,6} {8,6,2} {8,2,7} {8,2,6} {8,2,2} {{6,3,8} {6,1,8} {6,1,3} {6,1,1} {6,1,7} {6,1,6} {6,1,2} {6,2,2}

WI>{7,9,9} {7,9,6} {7,9,4} {7,9,2} {7,9,5} {7,9,7} } {7,4,9} {7,4,6} {7,4,4} {7,4,2} {7,4,5} {7,4,7}  {7,7,9} {7,7,6} {7,7,4} {7,7,2} {7,7,5} {7,7,7}

WI> 777

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NM>Eve draws

{8,6,8} {8,6,3} {8,6,1} {8,6,7} {8,6,6} {8,6,2} {8,2,7} {8,2,6} {8,2,2} {{6,3,8} {6,1,8} {6,1,3} {6,1,1} {6,1,7} {6,1,6} {6,1,2} {6,2,2}

WI>{7,9,9} {7,9,6} {7,9,4} {7,9,2} {7,9,5} {7,9,7} } {7,4,9} {7,4,6} {7,4,4} {7,4,2} {7,4,5} {7,4,7}  {7,7,9} {7,7,6} {7,7,4} {7,7,2} {7,7,5} {7,7,7}

WI> so far> str 774,777

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The ratio 1/1000 refers to discrete values, and is constant per each draw. Average of something refers to central tendency of a selected parameter. Now the parameter in question here is a 'triad'(discrete value) of statistical combinatorial of 10 digits where 3 is selected at a time. The assumption is every triad has chance of coming within 1 to 1000 draws--this is not always true, because 1/1000 is assumed prior ratio yet to be tested. The problem is, in analyzing a data, the prior ratio of parameter in question is hard to calculate.

P4

NJ> 8899-9988-8894-8896-9984-9986-8893-9983-8988-9998

NY> 5599-5593-5533-9955-9933-5596-5597-9956-9957-3356

KY>3300-3309-3399-0033-0099-9900-3097-3096-3091-9931

MD>5551-5511-5500-1150-1100-1105-5104-5108-5514-5558

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WI> so far> str 774,777

The Struggle is real!

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P4

NJ> 8899-9988-8894-8896-9984-9986-8893-9983-8988-9998

NY> 5599-5593-5533-9955-9933-5596-5597-9956-9957-3356

KY>3300-3309-3399-0033-0099-9900-3097-3096-3091-9931

MD>5551-5511-5500-1150-1100-1105-5104-5108-5514-5558

P4

GA>1113-1133-1143-1144-3311-3344-3341-1349-1340-1348

IL>0000-0003-0033-0044-3300-3344-0034-0036-3346-0346

IND>6677-7766-6667-6673-6674-6634-7733-7734-7763-6734

NB> picks are highly suggested for DAY draws, but with 10 picks , a combined bet for few draws is still below the threshold of \$2.5/5.0k.

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P4

GA>1113-1133-1143-1144-3311-3344-3341-1349-1340-1348

IL>0000-0003-0033-0044-3300-3344-0034-0036-3346-0346

IND>6677-7766-6667-6673-6674-6634-7733-7734-7763-6734

NB> picks are highly suggested for DAY draws, but with 10 picks , a combined bet for few draws is still below the threshold of \$2.5/5.0k.

IND>4663

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