United States Member #116344 September 8, 2011 3928 Posts Online

Posted: July 29, 2016, 8:08 pm - IP Logged

The ratio 1/1000 refers to discrete values, and is constant per each draw. Average of something refers to central tendency of a selected parameter. Now the parameter in question here is a 'triad'(discrete value) of statistical combinatorial of 10 digits where 3 is selected at a time. The assumption is every triad has chance of coming within 1 to 1000 draws--this is not always true, because 1/1000 is assumed prior ratio yet to be tested. The problem is, in analyzing a data, the prior ratio of parameter in question is hard to calculate.

Madison, WI United States Member #172977 February 11, 2016 515 Posts Offline

Posted: July 29, 2016, 8:18 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by adobea78 on July 29, 2016

The ratio 1/1000 refers to discrete values, and is constant per each draw. Average of something refers to central tendency of a selected parameter. Now the parameter in question here is a 'triad'(discrete value) of statistical combinatorial of 10 digits where 3 is selected at a time. The assumption is every triad has chance of coming within 1 to 1000 draws--this is not always true, because 1/1000 is assumed prior ratio yet to be tested. The problem is, in analyzing a data, the prior ratio of parameter in question is hard to calculate.

I guess I don't understand why you are using words and language that just make this more difficult to understand what you are saying.

The assumption is every triad (combo) has a chance of coming within 1 to 1000 draws. This is true. A chance. These things can be calculated. An outcome (combo) with 1 in 1000 chance of occurring in a single event (draw), has approximately a 63% chance of occurring once or more in 1000 draws: 1-(.999^1000).

United States Member #116344 September 8, 2011 3928 Posts Online

Posted: July 29, 2016, 8:37 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by Wisconsin3054 on July 29, 2016

I guess I don't understand why you are using words and language that just make this more difficult to understand what you are saying.

The assumption is every triad (combo) has a chance of coming within 1 to 1000 draws. This is true. A chance. These things can be calculated. An outcome (combo) with 1 in 1000 chance of occurring in a single event (draw), has approximately a 63% chance of occurring once or more in 1000 draws: 1-(.999^1000).

Where did you get the ratio 1/1000? Has this ratio been tested? . The ratio is assumption from the binomial format NC_{r. } Sure, things can be calculate in theory, but the actual percentage occurrence of a combo may vary.-Why do you have frequent combos within 1 to 1000 threshold?, why do all the combos goes beyond or below the 1000 threshold?

United States Member #116344 September 8, 2011 3928 Posts Online

Posted: July 29, 2016, 8:53 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by Wisconsin3054 on July 29, 2016

I guess I don't understand why you are using words and language that just make this more difficult to understand what you are saying.

The assumption is every triad (combo) has a chance of coming within 1 to 1000 draws. This is true. A chance. These things can be calculated. An outcome (combo) with 1 in 1000 chance of occurring in a single event (draw), has approximately a 63% chance of occurring once or more in 1000 draws: 1-(.999^1000).

I guess I don't understand why you are using words and language that just make this more difficult to understand what you are saying.

I did give a clue to the formation of current pool in most of my threads, a system forum is not limited to step by step method, is also putting ideal out for people to discern information.

Madison, WI United States Member #172977 February 11, 2016 515 Posts Offline

Posted: July 29, 2016, 8:55 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by adobea78 on July 29, 2016

I guess I don't understand why you are using words and language that just make this more difficult to understand what you are saying.

I did give a clue to the formation of current pool in most of my threads, a system forum is not limited to step by step method, is also putting ideal out for people to discern information.

Sure, but if you would like people to understand what you are saying, you may want to consider using simpler, more precise language. Just a humble suggestion.

Madison, WI United States Member #172977 February 11, 2016 515 Posts Offline

Posted: July 29, 2016, 9:05 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by adobea78 on July 29, 2016

Where did you get the ratio 1/1000? Has this ratio been tested? . The ratio is assumption from the binomial format NC_{r. } Sure, things can be calculate in theory, but the actual percentage occurrence of a combo may vary.-Why do you have frequent combos within 1 to 1000 threshold?, why do all the combos goes beyond or below the 1000 threshold?

I got the ratio 1/1000 from the entire game concept of pick 3. The concept of the game is that each draw, each digit is randomly selected from digits 0-9. Perhaps you don't believe the concept of the game is accurate, either intentionally or unintentionally. If it is not accurate, then that would certainly change the game ratios. I obtained the 1/1000 ratio under the assumption that the stated concept of the game is accurate.

Sometimes a combo occurs more often than once every 1000 draws, sometimes less often. This phenomenon is just how probabilities work, when you are evaluating the probabilities of future truly random events. If the results were a certainty, such that for certain a combo would occur once in ever 1000 draws, then I think we would call the ratios certainties rather than probabilities. Also, the selections of digits would not then be random.

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Posted: July 31, 2016, 10:44 am - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by Wisconsin3054 on July 29, 2016

I got the ratio 1/1000 from the entire game concept of pick 3. The concept of the game is that each draw, each digit is randomly selected from digits 0-9. Perhaps you don't believe the concept of the game is accurate, either intentionally or unintentionally. If it is not accurate, then that would certainly change the game ratios. I obtained the 1/1000 ratio under the assumption that the stated concept of the game is accurate.

Sometimes a combo occurs more often than once every 1000 draws, sometimes less often. This phenomenon is just how probabilities work, when you are evaluating the probabilities of future truly random events. If the results were a certainty, such that for certain a combo would occur once in ever 1000 draws, then I think we would call the ratios certainties rather than probabilities. Also, the selections of digits would not then be random.

Sometimes a combo occurs more often than once every 1000 draws, sometimes less often. This phenomenon is just how probabilities work, when you are evaluating the probabilities of future truly random events.

I subscribe to the premise of the game, the issue is understanding ratios of a parameter. Lets say a State X has a game with regulation 10C_{6}(with digit replacement), the ratio 1/1000000 can be calculated in theory, how do you test this ratio? What's is your understanding of this ratio? When you flip a coin, the ratio 50/50 is assumed before the first flip, how do you to test or verify this prior ratio? Knowing the prior ratio of X is the issue.

Zaperlopopotam Belgium Member #173932 March 26, 2016 962 Posts Offline

Posted: July 31, 2016, 10:52 am - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by Wisconsin3054 on July 29, 2016

I believe odds expression is 1:999, being 1 potential positive result against 999 potential negative results, with each result having the same chance of occurring.

You may not play every draw, but every draw you do play still has the same odds with one play, 1:999.

Madison, WI United States Member #172977 February 11, 2016 515 Posts Offline

Posted: August 1, 2016, 11:28 am - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by Sunglasses on July 31, 2016

How do you find 1:999?

If you play one straight combo, there is 1 potential outcome in which you win, and 999 potential outcomes in which you lose. In odds lingo, the : symbol puts positive results on one side, negative results on the other side. Basically.

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Posted: August 14, 2016, 12:00 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by adobea78 on July 29, 2016

The ratio 1/1000 refers to discrete values, and is constant per each draw. Average of something refers to central tendency of a selected parameter. Now the parameter in question here is a 'triad'(discrete value) of statistical combinatorial of 10 digits where 3 is selected at a time. The assumption is every triad has chance of coming within 1 to 1000 draws--this is not always true, because 1/1000 is assumed prior ratio yet to be tested. The problem is, in analyzing a data, the prior ratio of parameter in question is hard to calculate.