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garyo1954's avatar - garyo
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Posted: November 3, 2016, 11:28 pm - IP Logged

Texas Night:

 

432!

Wouldn't you know it? 34 pair was in the elimination round.

I'm going to eat lots of Smarties now and figure out what I edited to leave 089 in play......

 

Goodnight!

Sal_Yodada

My greatest accomplishment is teaching cats about Vienna Sausage. When I need a friend, all I need do is walk outside, pop open a can, and every little critter in the neighborhood drops by to say "Hi!"

    mmx1's avatar - 8ball

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    39 combinations is only 17.7% of all possible box combinations. There is no difference between random picks and randomly chosen filters.

    Even/Odd and Hi/Lo filters don't give any more chance than random if not used at certain point of time instead of every draw.

     

    Here are the last 200 combined draws (FL) with Even/Odd, Hi/Lo, Doubles and Triples hits. I did it here.

    There was 92 draws just a chance to win if selected 1 digit out was correct.

    There was 108 draws with no chance (one or more filters failed).

    Friendly, it was a stupid idea to use all the above filters if you new that the max skip (longest consecutive greens) in 200 draws was 4 (3 times) and before this eve it was exactly at 4 skips again. It was almost 100% sure that one or more filters will fail.

    1. 371 (137)
    2. 160
    3. 580
    4. 918
    5. 930
    6. 468 (468)
    7. 656 (566)
    8. 537 (357)
    9. 560
    10. 577 (577)
    11. 707 (077)
    12. 184
    13. 565 (556)
    14. 462 (246)
    15. 273
    16. 511 (115)
    17. 597 (579)
    18. 063
    19. 059
    20. 973 (379)
    21. 194
    22. 381
    23. 129
    24. 625
    25. 482 (248)
    26. 116 (116)
    27. 886 (688)
    28. 778 (778)
    29. 764
    30. 217
    31. 104 (014)
    32. 831
    33. 586 (568)
    34. 184
    35. 193 (139)
    36. 045
    37. 841
    38. 808 (088)
    39. 485
    40. 886 (688)
    41. 774 (477)
    42. 805
    43. 976 (679)
    44. 778 (778)
    45. 208 (028)
    46. 742
    47. 806 (068)
    48. 181 (118)
    49. 234 (234)
    50. 431 (134)
    51. 873
    52. 386
    53. 649
    54. 499 (499)
    55. 152
    56. 763
    57. 143 (134)
    58. 885 (588)
    59. 702
    60. 856 (568)
    61. 962
    62. 549
    63. 030 (003)
    64. 376
    65. 487
    66. 911 (119)
    67. 087
    68. 050 (005)
    69. 842 (248)
    70. 277 (277)
    71. 298
    72. 449 (449)
    73. 225 (225)
    74. 257
    75. 942
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    77. 480 (048)
    78. 786 (678)
    79. 393 (339)
    80. 725
    81. 067
    82. 719 (179)
    83. 400 (004)
    84. 059
    85. 362
    86. 532
    87. 585 (558)
    88. 023 (023)
    89. 620 (026)
    90. 802 (028)
    91. 828 (288)
    92. 054
    93. 321 (123)
    94. 876 (678)
    95. 813
    96. 264 (246)
    97. 671
    98. 887 (788)
    99. 739 (379)
    100. 056
    101. 664 (466)
    102. 709
    103. 468 (468)
    104. 442 (244)
    105. 115 (115)
    106. 194
    107. 972
    108. 257
    109. 667 (667)
    110. 825
    111. 299 (299)
    112. 069
    113. 478
    114. 011 (011)
    115. 080 (008)
    116. 073
    117. 364
    118. 992 (299)
    119. 159 (159)
    120. 354
    121. 043 (034)
    122. 176
    123. 332 (233)
    124. 352
    125. 687 (678)
    126. 635
    127. 248 (248)
    128. 552 (255)
    129. 298
    130. 860 (068)
    131. 984
    132. 042 (024)
    133. 853
    134. 499 (499)
    135. 077 (077)
    136. 841
    137. 064 (046)
    138. 690
    139. 598 (589)
    140. 714
    141. 664 (466)
    142. 599 (599)
    143. 743
    144. 680 (068)
    145. 572
    146. 690
    147. 506
    148. 158
    149. 233 (233)
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    151. 349
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    157. 775 (577)
    158. 937 (379)
    159. 351 (135)
    160. 046 (046)
    161. 067
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    165. 895 (589)
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    171. 248 (248)
    172. 350
    173. 470
    174. 881 (188)
    175. 345
    176. 405
    177. 569 (569)
    178. 309
    179. 862 (268)
    180. 595 (559)
    181. 212 (122)
    182. 162
    183. 503
    184. 606 (066)
    185. 117 (117)
    186. 693
    187. 386
    188. 344 (344)
    189. 826 (268)
    190. 872
    191. 405
    192. 512
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    196. 629
    197. 759 (579)
    198. 139 (139)
    199. 338 (338)
    200. 446 (446)

      helpmewin's avatar - dandy
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      Posted: November 4, 2016, 3:01 am - IP Logged

      Texas Night:

       

      432!

      Wouldn't you know it? 34 pair was in the elimination round.

      I'm going to eat lots of Smarties now and figure out what I edited to leave 089 in play......

       

      Goodnight!

      Sal_Yodada

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        Sunglasses's avatar - nicebear
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        Posted: November 4, 2016, 8:44 am - IP Logged

        Strange question. Especially for a program that doesn't have a name. Haven't given much thought passed demonstrating the ideas in the video in conjunction with what Amber asked. After all, that was the purpose of the OP.

        Basically this is the reverse of choosing one digit that will hit and playing all the boxed combinations. In that method you have 36 singles, 18 doubles, and a triple. In that method you're limited in the combinations by having a key digit, but the payoff is better, $80 for a single, $160 for a double, and $500 for the triple (assuming a $1 bet).

        In this method we have a wider range of combinations with a limited payoff of $80 for a single (assuming a $1 bet).

        In any case, I thought it might be fun to try on Texas Night.

        I eliminated 8 without realizing that by eliminating 8 eliminating pairs that contain 8 becomes pretty much ineffectual. In other words, once I have eliminated all the combos that contain the digit 8, it becomes redundant/foolish/(stoopid even) to further eliminate pairs containing the digit 8.

        Be that as it may.......

         

         

        Sal

        If you want to win, then consider including double for boxed play. Exclude one or the other if you have too many numbers. I count more than 20 filter options in my filter together with 8 other options for use. As ten filter options have specific parameters, count more than 100 options to filter. You are limited to two preset filters and elimination of singles and doubles?

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          Sunglasses's avatar - nicebear
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          Posted: November 4, 2016, 9:08 am - IP Logged

          39 combinations is only 17.7% of all possible box combinations. There is no difference between random picks and randomly chosen filters.

          Even/Odd and Hi/Lo filters don't give any more chance than random if not used at certain point of time instead of every draw.

           

          Here are the last 200 combined draws (FL) with Even/Odd, Hi/Lo, Doubles and Triples hits. I did it here.

          There was 92 draws just a chance to win if selected 1 digit out was correct.

          There was 108 draws with no chance (one or more filters failed).

          Friendly, it was a stupid idea to use all the above filters if you new that the max skip (longest consecutive greens) in 200 draws was 4 (3 times) and before this eve it was exactly at 4 skips again. It was almost 100% sure that one or more filters will fail.

          1. 371 (137)
          2. 160
          3. 580
          4. 918
          5. 930
          6. 468 (468)
          7. 656 (566)
          8. 537 (357)
          9. 560
          10. 577 (577)
          11. 707 (077)
          12. 184
          13. 565 (556)
          14. 462 (246)
          15. 273
          16. 511 (115)
          17. 597 (579)
          18. 063
          19. 059
          20. 973 (379)
          21. 194
          22. 381
          23. 129
          24. 625
          25. 482 (248)
          26. 116 (116)
          27. 886 (688)
          28. 778 (778)
          29. 764
          30. 217
          31. 104 (014)
          32. 831
          33. 586 (568)
          34. 184
          35. 193 (139)
          36. 045
          37. 841
          38. 808 (088)
          39. 485
          40. 886 (688)
          41. 774 (477)
          42. 805
          43. 976 (679)
          44. 778 (778)
          45. 208 (028)
          46. 742
          47. 806 (068)
          48. 181 (118)
          49. 234 (234)
          50. 431 (134)
          51. 873
          52. 386
          53. 649
          54. 499 (499)
          55. 152
          56. 763
          57. 143 (134)
          58. 885 (588)
          59. 702
          60. 856 (568)
          61. 962
          62. 549
          63. 030 (003)
          64. 376
          65. 487
          66. 911 (119)
          67. 087
          68. 050 (005)
          69. 842 (248)
          70. 277 (277)
          71. 298
          72. 449 (449)
          73. 225 (225)
          74. 257
          75. 942
          76. 779 (779)
          77. 480 (048)
          78. 786 (678)
          79. 393 (339)
          80. 725
          81. 067
          82. 719 (179)
          83. 400 (004)
          84. 059
          85. 362
          86. 532
          87. 585 (558)
          88. 023 (023)
          89. 620 (026)
          90. 802 (028)
          91. 828 (288)
          92. 054
          93. 321 (123)
          94. 876 (678)
          95. 813
          96. 264 (246)
          97. 671
          98. 887 (788)
          99. 739 (379)
          100. 056
          101. 664 (466)
          102. 709
          103. 468 (468)
          104. 442 (244)
          105. 115 (115)
          106. 194
          107. 972
          108. 257
          109. 667 (667)
          110. 825
          111. 299 (299)
          112. 069
          113. 478
          114. 011 (011)
          115. 080 (008)
          116. 073
          117. 364
          118. 992 (299)
          119. 159 (159)
          120. 354
          121. 043 (034)
          122. 176
          123. 332 (233)
          124. 352
          125. 687 (678)
          126. 635
          127. 248 (248)
          128. 552 (255)
          129. 298
          130. 860 (068)
          131. 984
          132. 042 (024)
          133. 853
          134. 499 (499)
          135. 077 (077)
          136. 841
          137. 064 (046)
          138. 690
          139. 598 (589)
          140. 714
          141. 664 (466)
          142. 599 (599)
          143. 743
          144. 680 (068)
          145. 572
          146. 690
          147. 506
          148. 158
          149. 233 (233)
          150. 691
          151. 349
          152. 823
          153. 869 (689)
          154. 545 (455)
          155. 253
          156. 137 (137)
          157. 775 (577)
          158. 937 (379)
          159. 351 (135)
          160. 046 (046)
          161. 067
          162. 340 (034)
          163. 440 (044)
          164. 441 (144)
          165. 895 (589)
          166. 036
          167. 993 (399)
          168. 829
          169. 871
          170. 187
          171. 248 (248)
          172. 350
          173. 470
          174. 881 (188)
          175. 345
          176. 405
          177. 569 (569)
          178. 309
          179. 862 (268)
          180. 595 (559)
          181. 212 (122)
          182. 162
          183. 503
          184. 606 (066)
          185. 117 (117)
          186. 693
          187. 386
          188. 344 (344)
          189. 826 (268)
          190. 872
          191. 405
          192. 512
          193. 259
          194. 206 (026)
          195. 277 (277)
          196. 629
          197. 759 (579)
          198. 139 (139)
          199. 338 (338)
          200. 446 (446)

          39 combinations is only 17.7% of all possible box combinations. There is no difference between random picks and randomly chosen filters.

          There is a difference, one is from the entire subset while the other is from a specified fraction. That is a huge difference. Apples are not pears.

          Even/Odd and Hi/Lo filters don't give any more chance than random if not used at certain point of time instead of every draw.

          You make a point with instead of every draw. The clue is the digit and not the group. Eventually you get lucky with a wave, see some posts by Jade. Most of the time there is no such long and powerful wave. If you play such filters, you need to use timing in the sequence of drawings. So you need charts or human memory. I have both. Of course pure luck beats everything.

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            Posted: November 4, 2016, 10:35 am - IP Logged

            Amber, I think maybe a change in filters could help? Selecting a digit not to show seems to be working as does pair elimination. Perhaps instead of eliminating all odd and all even, and all HHH and LLL, you should use sums and roots.

            By using the wheel generator, and inspect 3, you can produce combos based on sum/pairs/digits. Place in Inspect 3, reduce to due sums first, then select roots based on root group. You would play only 3 or 6 roots, thus reducing combos. 

            Of course, now you must choose those roots and sums based on what you see in tracking. Perhaps that would even allow you to add doubles when you think they are due?

            Like now.......last double was 7 draws back. we've had two combos with a 0 and a all odd. By most known indicators a double is coming......

            As you well know, doubles pay more. 

             Rock Chalk Jayhawk

              garyo1954's avatar - garyo
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              "If you want to win......"

              If. You. Want. To. Win. The eye catching famous five words stated in thousands of threads all over LP, and the web. Nice catch phrase for salesmen. Passive aggressive implication you are winning and you're going share the biggest secret the world has ever seen. 

              Why not just start a thread showing how it's done without sidetracking/hijacking others' threads to tell everybody (barf!) for the 87654 time how it's done, without telling how it's done?  That's old hat. Used up. Been done, and done, and done, ad infinitum  But hey! Please feel free. Start a thread that says "I, Serge, have the GREATEST lottery SECRET on the WEB!" Go ahead. Get it out of your system once and for all and be done with it. We'll wait.

              "20 filter options......"

              You DA man! Totally impressed, yes I am. 20 more ways to lose than I of care to think about.

              You did note that mmx post destroys the idea that more filters equals more wins? Or did his subtle implications mislead you? Frankly, the only person who makes good use of filter options is RL. Of course, RL is dealing with LARGER games requiring a lot of filters. RL can filter out 10000s of combinations where most Pick 3 filters omit 10 or less in boxed combinations.

              Truth is, and RL will tell you that too many filters are detrimental to determining the winner. But Hey! You're winning the "TOTAL NUMBER OF FILTERS I HAVE" game! Really tearing it up!

              Amber brought this here to discuss, explore, and get thoughts on. She's not expecting to win every night playing singles. But she has posted something with possibilities. Something to look at, think about, comment on. I like that. Amber's cool. Be like Amber.

              Yes, the video is.....shall we say.....anybody with one functioning brain cell knows the video is a HUGE stretch claiming someone wins EVERY NIGHT PLAYING SINGLES. Can't be done. (For those without a functioning brain cell: doubles or triples WILL come out occasionally so please don't play singles every night expecting to win. If you do, you don't have a functioning brain cell and shouldn't be allowed to buy a lottery ticket without a signed permission slip from your doctor!)

              Now, I've had my laugh, hopefully you've laughed (or at least chuckled) so I'm calling, "LUNCH!"

               

              Sal

              My greatest accomplishment is teaching cats about Vienna Sausage. When I need a friend, all I need do is walk outside, pop open a can, and every little critter in the neighborhood drops by to say "Hi!"

                lakerben's avatar - spherewall
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                I think the filters llh,hlh, etc are good to couple with trends.  For example the digit 4 was out for a while in NM. Now it's hitting with 8,0.  Maybe more ooo,hhh digits for the morning draw.  Buying too many tickets without looking at the trend of your game is a waste of money.

                 

                Drum

                  garyo1954's avatar - garyo
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                  For those wondering how many numbers are thrown out by all LOW, all HIGH, all EVEN, and all ODD; here's the answer.......

                  10 all LOW

                  10 all HIGH

                  9 all EVEN (including 024 which is also all LOW)

                  9 all ODD (including 579 which is also all HIGH)

                  Total 36.....(not counting 024 and 579 twice)

                  Same count you get by throwing one digit out. Starting with 120 tossing one digit (36 combos) you have 84 left.

                  All low tosses 6 of each 0s, 1s, 2s, 3s, 4s.

                  All high tosses 6 of each 5s, 6s, 7s, 8s, 9s.

                  All Even tosses six 0s, five 2s, five 4s, six 6s, five 8s

                  All Odd tosses five 1s, five 3s, six 5s, six 7s, five 9s.

                   

                  Coupling the digit eliminated with the pairs eliminated might produce a better outcome in some cases. In others it's another pitfall.

                   

                  Monkey_breath

                  My greatest accomplishment is teaching cats about Vienna Sausage. When I need a friend, all I need do is walk outside, pop open a can, and every little critter in the neighborhood drops by to say "Hi!"

                    garyo1954's avatar - garyo
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                    Posted: November 4, 2016, 3:45 pm - IP Logged

                    Texas Evening pick.....

                    cut the 0, hold the 27, 29, 34 (hit twice in the last 6 draws), 79, 58, 45....

                     

                     

                    Wondering how the elimination of pairs affects the result overall. Something needs to be done about that part. For example, eliminating any of the pairs 27, 29, 79 eliminates 279 but how many other combos are affected? Have to work that part out and see.

                     

                    Bongo

                    My greatest accomplishment is teaching cats about Vienna Sausage. When I need a friend, all I need do is walk outside, pop open a can, and every little critter in the neighborhood drops by to say "Hi!"

                      lakerben's avatar - spherewall
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                      Good work!

                      Are you going to upload this?

                      How about them cowboys!

                       

                       

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                        Posted: November 4, 2016, 8:24 pm - IP Logged

                        "If you want to win......"

                        If. You. Want. To. Win. The eye catching famous five words stated in thousands of threads all over LP, and the web. Nice catch phrase for salesmen. Passive aggressive implication you are winning and you're going share the biggest secret the world has ever seen. 

                        Why not just start a thread showing how it's done without sidetracking/hijacking others' threads to tell everybody (barf!) for the 87654 time how it's done, without telling how it's done?  That's old hat. Used up. Been done, and done, and done, ad infinitum  But hey! Please feel free. Start a thread that says "I, Serge, have the GREATEST lottery SECRET on the WEB!" Go ahead. Get it out of your system once and for all and be done with it. We'll wait.

                        "20 filter options......"

                        You DA man! Totally impressed, yes I am. 20 more ways to lose than I of care to think about.

                        You did note that mmx post destroys the idea that more filters equals more wins? Or did his subtle implications mislead you? Frankly, the only person who makes good use of filter options is RL. Of course, RL is dealing with LARGER games requiring a lot of filters. RL can filter out 10000s of combinations where most Pick 3 filters omit 10 or less in boxed combinations.

                        Truth is, and RL will tell you that too many filters are detrimental to determining the winner. But Hey! You're winning the "TOTAL NUMBER OF FILTERS I HAVE" game! Really tearing it up!

                        Amber brought this here to discuss, explore, and get thoughts on. She's not expecting to win every night playing singles. But she has posted something with possibilities. Something to look at, think about, comment on. I like that. Amber's cool. Be like Amber.

                        Yes, the video is.....shall we say.....anybody with one functioning brain cell knows the video is a HUGE stretch claiming someone wins EVERY NIGHT PLAYING SINGLES. Can't be done. (For those without a functioning brain cell: doubles or triples WILL come out occasionally so please don't play singles every night expecting to win. If you do, you don't have a functioning brain cell and shouldn't be allowed to buy a lottery ticket without a signed permission slip from your doctor!)

                        Now, I've had my laugh, hopefully you've laughed (or at least chuckled) so I'm calling, "LUNCH!"

                         

                        Sal

                        RL wrote that he lost using filters. That was his experience. Using more filters reduces the number of combinations to play. Let's say that you have 20 straight combinations only left. Your chances are 20 : 1000, or 2%. In other words your probability to lose is 98%. So, mmx doesn't believe in filters. Amber brought up a filter that I used with success for California. It is about using the settings at the right time. I'll play when I get further into straight pair play. Nobody came up with anything when I was asking. I need a vacation.

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                          garyo1954's avatar - garyo
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                          Texas Evening pick.....

                          cut the 0, hold the 27, 29, 34 (hit twice in the last 6 draws), 79, 58, 45....

                           

                           

                          Wondering how the elimination of pairs affects the result overall. Something needs to be done about that part. For example, eliminating any of the pairs 27, 29, 79 eliminates 279 but how many other combos are affected? Have to work that part out and see.

                           

                          Bongo

                          926 is the winner......

                          Had a feeling the 27 or 29 would bite me. It did. Twice in a row pairs come back to haunt me.

                          Same for the night draw. See if it gets to three.

                          Yeah, I'll be posting it to box. Best fun thread in a couple of years. 

                          Need to make the executable, get all the files and zip it. That's something I haven't done since the year of the Mayan Doomsday Calendar so expect a little rust, maybe a little corrosion. Come to think of it, this is the first straight scratch program I've done since about 2012 too. Maybe my brain ain't all that corroded??????

                           

                          Sal_Yodada

                          My greatest accomplishment is teaching cats about Vienna Sausage. When I need a friend, all I need do is walk outside, pop open a can, and every little critter in the neighborhood drops by to say "Hi!"

                            mmx1's avatar - 8ball

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                            For those wondering how many numbers are thrown out by all LOW, all HIGH, all EVEN, and all ODD; here's the answer.......

                            10 all LOW

                            10 all HIGH

                            9 all EVEN (including 024 which is also all LOW)

                            9 all ODD (including 579 which is also all HIGH)

                            Total 36.....(not counting 024 and 579 twice)

                            Same count you get by throwing one digit out. Starting with 120 tossing one digit (36 combos) you have 84 left.

                            All low tosses 6 of each 0s, 1s, 2s, 3s, 4s.

                            All high tosses 6 of each 5s, 6s, 7s, 8s, 9s.

                            All Even tosses six 0s, five 2s, five 4s, six 6s, five 8s

                            All Odd tosses five 1s, five 3s, six 5s, six 7s, five 9s.

                             

                            Coupling the digit eliminated with the pairs eliminated might produce a better outcome in some cases. In others it's another pitfall.

                             

                            Monkey_breath

                            You're missing 248 in evens and 139 in odds.

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                              Posted: November 4, 2016, 9:39 pm - IP Logged

                              Unbelievable, I play one freaking ticket tonight from the "Little Pyramid" system, and I about lost it !

                               

                              The winner tonight In Florida was 540..

                               

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