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What are the basic patterns of a lottery of numbers?
can be patterns that occur 75% to 80%
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Pick 3

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0,1 or 2
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Okay, well, it would be for a lottery.
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You may think there's a pattern, but it's all random.

You might see the same number repeat so you play it, and then it changes.

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Quote: Originally posted by dr san on Apr 2, 2019
What are the basic patterns of a lottery of numbers?
can be patterns that occur 75% to 80%

Start with Prime Numbers: There are 25 prime numbers between 1 and 100. They are 2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, 29, 31, 37, 41, 43, 47, 53, 59, 61, 67, 71, 73, 79, 83, 89, and 97: The remaining 75 numbers between 1 and 100 are derived from the product of 2 Prime Numbers (Example 2x3=6, 7x11=77, etc.).

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2080613-mathematicians-shocked-to-find-pattern-in-random-prime-numbers/

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Apr 2, 2019, 2:13 pm

ok, RAVEN62, perfect, thank you
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Quote: Originally posted by dr san on Apr 2, 2019
What are the basic patterns of a lottery of numbers?
can be patterns that occur 75% to 80%

If there are patterns, they are simply probability plus or minus standard deviation. Lots of probabilities occur in around 75% of the drawings, but there are hundreds of combos. In any pick-3 game with 1000 possibilities, 720 of them have three different digits and we can expect to see about 72% of the results have three different digits over time.

If can't identify what you call basic patterns, how do you know they exist?
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Quote: Originally posted by NYL1 on Apr 2, 2019
Pick 3

lowest digit

0,1 or 2

List Pick 3 singles by low sums, high sums. Separate each sum row by consecutive pair and non consecutive pair combos. These 3 pair groups. 14 17 47, 25 28 58, 36 39 69 are in 63 combos. 54 combos do not have them. Which sums do the 3 pair groups appear and not appear? Look at root sum groups 147, 258, 369. Play accordingly.
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Apr 2, 2019, 6:11 pm

ok, we can find hidden patterns in the prediction of numbers, but we can also see patterns of blocks, or sequences of empty groups to exclude,
then we have two conditions a condition for predicting patterns, another condition for excluding patterns,
example of block deletion in a row
01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 in the draw gave 03 and 08
we have blocks of doubles, trios, to exclude
doubles = 01 02, 08 09
trios = 04 05 06, 050 6 07
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The universal pattern of lotteries is that the people running lotteries do everything in their power to avoid the existence of patterns.
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Quote: Originally posted by dr san on Apr 2, 2019
What are the basic patterns of a lottery of numbers?
can be patterns that occur 75% to 80%

The basic patterns of any game are going to be determined by the method you choose whether its high/low, even/odd, ABCs, you make the call.

Nope, no pattern will cover 75-80% of the game. Consider the lowest element of every draw being a number. That number will only appear in a small percentage of the all combinations. So here's what happens:

You choose a number you have eliminated all combinations that do not contain that number.

You choose a second number you eliminate all combinations that do not contain that pair.

The third number eliminates more and the fourth even more......

In Cash5 by time you are to the fifth number you have between 6 to 21 possible combinations to choose from.

Since every combination is unique, covering 75-80% requires playing 75-80% of the numbers.

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Apr 3, 2019, 5:28 pm

ok, GARYO 1954 you are correct, we have to think of a reference standard, ie fixed pattern, not to walk in circles, there are positions of higher frequencies within a lottery matrix (rows and columns) we have to think of Cartesian filter.
good we have patterns to predict numbers and patterns to exclude blocks or empty sequences
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Quote: Originally posted by Murgatroyd on Apr 2, 2019
The universal pattern of lotteries is that the people running lotteries do everything in their power to avoid the existence of patterns.

Murgatroyd,

I'm sure you're right and we can add that the people running the lotteries are really entertained by those looking for patterns in something that's not designed to have any.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any. So many systems, so many theories, so few jackpot winners.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.
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Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Apr 3, 2019
Murgatroyd,

I'm sure you're right and we can add that the people running the lotteries are really entertained by those looking for patterns in something that's not designed to have any.

Interesting thought, but probably not true since the people running the lotteries use much of the same information to prove the games are random. If any of the natural patterns that can't be designed away, such as even/odd, high/low, number distribution, climbed above or dipped below the norm, any laughter would become serious concern as we see in this article......

lottery-numbers-broken-system-identical-drawings-controversy/1863102002/

(If you read far enough there is a Lottery Post mention)

A small excerpt.....in reviewing a series of drawing from West Virginia and Wisconsin, Robert Molzon, a retired math professor at the University of Kentucky, said, "My conclusion is that it is highly unlikely that the chosen numbers in either of these lotteries are truly random."

Probably the greatest misconception about looking for patterns within the matrix is that one is looking for a means to win tonight and every night after. And although that might be true in a few/some ill conceived cases, its not true for anyone who sees the enormity of haystack compared to the needle.

Since the lottery uses patterns to prove the drawings are random and we're using patterns to prove its not, what is most likely truest is that people will find what they choose to see.

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Personal strategies or lucky rituals may be a fun pastime, but they have no impact on the final outcome of a game. Be especially wary of someone trying to sell you “lucky” numbers or a play strategy – they don’t work. That’s because the games are random in nature – you can’t predict what combination of numbers will be drawn or which scratch-off ticket will be a winner.

That's what the KY Lottery says about systems. The key is "random in nature" so if there are identifiable patterns, shouldn't they be random in nature too?

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