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Posted: December 12, 2003, 10:22 am - IP Logged
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Reds Hot Sheet Instruction Layout

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/293797

 

 


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    Right, despite the fact we were warned not to ask, I'm going to anyway: How about a sheet for NY's Pick 3?

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      New York Hot Sheet (last updated Dec 11  after evening drawings)



       

      Reds Hot Sheet Instruction Layout

      https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/293797

       

       


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        Posted: December 12, 2003, 4:31 pm - IP Logged

        Casho,

        Thank you for the New York Hot Sheet>

        wsls

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          thanks millennium for the observations. It will take me some time to confirm the above in the 9100+ results I have from PA...

          Playing more than one ticket per game is betting against yourself.

            JAP69's avatar - alas
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            pick 3 all combo series or draws combined
            Good luck

            all the mid and eve draws are entered as drawn straight
            in the software

            ________________________________________________________
            combos In due zone
            _________triple combo out 128 draws [avg skip 93 draws]
            consecutive double combo
            consecutive combo
            all odd combo [overdue]
            2 even 1 odd combo [overdue]
                  double combo
                2 carried combo

            I pull the data for the combos. Each combo has hit
            and skip data. I list them when they reach the hit median
            count. They go into overdue when they go beyond the hit
            median.
            I use these as a guide as to what combos I may want to play.
            Some have fewer combos some have more.

            __________________________________________________________
            pairs

            The pairs have a hit skip pattern. Listed due 2 to 3 draws
            prior to hit median overdue 2 to 3 draws past hit median.
            pairs Used as reference to find  combinatins to play.
            ___________________________________________________________
            even prs
            overdue 28-08-06
            due 02-04

            odd prs
            overdue 13-17-37-79
            due 19-59

            even odd prs
            overdue 03-16-27-29-47-49-69
            due 36

            consecutive prs
            overdue 01-09-34-78
            due 89

            doubles
            overdue 00-44-66-88-99
            due 33
            data
            44= skips 94 most skips 66
            __________________________________________________
            ______
            ______

            possible straight position hits.

            3 hot [wheeled the 5 hot for the 10 no match combos]
            549-492-149-542-295-154-251-291-195-241
            doubles
            886-337-226-774-020-232-228
            __________________________________________________

            ____
            20 draw digit count
            using this as reference may in selecting pairs or
            all three digits for the next draw.
            there are five ways you can put together the three digits
            for the next draw

             

            digit count
            2-10t
            5-10t
            1-07t
            9-06t
            4-05t
            __________
            6-05t
            8-05t
            0-04t
            3-04t
            7-04t

            this is the list for the digit count. watch where the
            digits are in the column from top down.

            the list
            235-235
            756-76
            811-81
            125
            486-4
            707-0
            412
            452
            893-9
            267
            124
            952
            520
            951
            585
            596
            403
            089
            921
            263
            433
            770

             

             

            ____________page two________________________________
            To arrive at the data for each combo series I created
            a game to enter the drawn numbers box order.
            Lowest to highest digit as seen below in the combo series.
            To find the data for each combo series I pull position
            one in the software and the combo series will be grouped
            together from 0 thru 9. I hi-lite the series I am working
            and the software will only pull the drawn data for that
            combo series only.I am tracking each combo series as a
            separate game from the others. No data from the other combo
            series will appear in another series.
            I only list the pairs that contain the lowest digit in the
            series. I can also look at the other higher order pairs to
            see when they are due to make a full combo.
            In the sums part when I pull a sum I will only see the data
            for that combo series only.When I work the one series and
            pull sum 13 I will only see the data for 4 combos 139-148
            157-166
            I have eliminated 11 combos in that sum 13.
            ___________________________________________________
            This data is for each series only.This is the 12/12
            worksheet and 048 mid and 014 eve was drawn.

            0 combos series 707 last drawn
            consecutive double combo
            consecutive pair combo 014 eve
            consecutive combo
            2 carried combo 014 eve
            ____all even combo 048 mid

            ____________________________________________________
            I am going to define combos due and pairs due in their
            combo series.
            The combo series numbers are listed below in their
            column 0 thru 9 [all box order]
            I have my tracking setup to pull only the data for that
            combo series. Treated as an individual game.

            The data for each combo series only
            represents the data and numbers in that series only.

            daily data page 2
            the individual combo series

            due combos chosen by the lenght of time out and
            in the sums hit percentile zone for that combo series.
            all listed box order.

            the 2 carried in a combo series means that the combo series
            digit with one of the last drawn digits in that combo
            series will return.

            Mid-day and eve draws are combined

            0 combos series 707 last drawn
            consecutive double combo
            consecutive pair combo
            consecutive combo
            2 carried combo
            ____all even combo

            __overdue 01-00
            due pairs 06-08
            top drawn sums
            11= 056-029-038-047
            07= 016-025-007-034
            10= 055-019-046-028-037
            09= 045-009-036-018-027
            due combos
            016-045-036-055
            019-001-[014]-023-079
            006-015-008-017-026-035
            044


            1 combos series 811 last drawn
            consecutive double combo
            all odd combo [overdue]
            consecutive combo

            overdue pairs 13-16
            due pairs 17-19
            top drawn sums
            07= 115-133-124
            10= 118-136-145-127
            11= 128-146-137-119
            12= 129-156-147-138
            due combos
            189-114-123
            136-128-115
            133-126-135


            2 combos series 235 last drawn
            double combo
            all even combo

            overdue pairs 28 [overdue]
            ____due pairs 29
            top drawn sums
            14= 257-248-239
            13= 247-238-229-256
            due combos
            257-248-227-247
            238-258


            3 combos series 893 last drawn
            consecutive combo
            _____all odd combo
            2 even 1 odd combo [overdue]

            overdue pairs 35
            ____due pairs 37
            top drawn sums
            16= 358-367-349
            17= 377-368-359
            due combos
            357-366-358
            339-335-344


            4 combo series 486 last drawn
            consecutive combo
            double combo
            consecutive double combo
            consecutive pair combo
            ______2 even 1 odd combo
            overdue pairs 45 44
            ____due pairs
            top drawn sums
            18= 468-459-477
            19= 469-478
            due combos
            469-478


            5 combo series 756 last drawn
            consecutive double combo
            all odd combo
            ______2 even 1 odd combo
            2 carried combo
            due pairs 59
            top drawn sums
            18= 567-558
            due combos
            556-589


            6 combo series 767 last drawn
            all even
            2 even 1 odd
            overdue pairs 69
            ____due pairs 68-66
            top drawn sums
            20= 668-677
            due combos
            669-679-699

            7 combo series 787 last drawn
            consecutive combo
            overdue pairs none
            ____due pairs 79
            top drawn sums
            24-789
            due combos
            779-789

             

             

            combo series below
            _o_ _1_ _2_ _3_ _4_ _5_ _6_ _7_ _8_ _9_
            000 111 222 333 444 555 666 777 888 999
            001 112 223 334 445 556 667 778 889
            002 113 224 335 446 557 668 779 899
            003 114 225 336 447 558 669 788
            004 115 226 337 448 559 677 789
            005 116 227 338 449 566 678 799
            006 117 228 339 455 567 679
            007 118 229 344 456 568 688
            008 119 233 345 457 569 689
            009 122 234 346 458 577 699
            011 123 235 347 459 578
            012 124 236 348 466 579
            013 125 237 349 467 588
            014 126 238 355 468 589
            015 127 239 356 469 599
            016 128 244 357 477
            017 129 245 358 478
            018 133 246 359 479
            019 134 247 366 488
            022 135 248 367 489
            023 136 249 368 499
            024 137 255 369
            025 138 256 377
            026 139 257 378
            027 144 258 379
            028 145 259 388
            029 146 266 389
            033 147 267 399
            034 148 268
            035 149 269
            036 155 277
            037 156 278
            038 157 279
            039 158 288
            044 159 289
            045 166 299
            046 167
            047 168
            048 169
            049 177
            055 178
            056 179
            057 188
            058 189
            059 199
            066
            067
            068
            069
            077
            078
            079
            088
            089
            099

            Oo'Ka

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              Posted: December 13, 2003, 2:44 pm - IP Logged

              Thanks! great explaination, JAP69

              Playing more than one ticket per game is betting against yourself.

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                JAP69:



                I've read your post (printed it out!) and looks like I'll have to keep re-reading it.



                All of that seems like a hell of a lot of work!



                1) What software are you using?



                2) How much do you put down per day?



                3) How good a hit rate have you had?

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                  Posted: December 13, 2003, 3:16 pm - IP Logged

                  Have to do three posts one after the other. Sorry.



                  Casho:



                  What's your algorithm? Or alogorithms?



                  I see that the TicTacToe is created from the 1-2-3 overdues in the Overdue column. I'm not math-head and I could see that!



                  What history are you drawing on? That is, how far back are you figuring for base "overdue"?



                  How long are these numbers to be in effect?

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                    JAP69, I salute you. That is the best breakdown of a system that I have seen in a long time. I like the continuity in that you gave an explanation of how you arrived at your findings. You didnot keep me dangling & trying to figure out what I was looking at. You stated what you were going to show & you did just that. You have given a step by step explanation of how you have arrived at your results. WTG JAP69!!!!!!!!!

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                      Posted: December 13, 2003, 3:34 pm - IP Logged

                      This Is What We Need



                      I am quoting from "The Predictors: How a Band of Maverick Physicists Used Chaos Theory to Trade Their Way to a Fortune on Wall Street" by Thomas A. Bass:



                      Tom's irritability is due in part to a late night spent tweaking a computer program called Prophet. Prophet is Tom's name for an algorithm that was develoepd by Norman [Packard], his dissertation adviser. Prophet is a genetic algorithm, a program specially designed for finding patterns in data. It mimics biological evolution by maintaining an evolving population of hypotheses, each good at locating structure in data and each encoded by a "genome" that mutates in various ways as the population changes.



                      Norman developd this program to analyze the "evolution" of snowflakes, but its first practical application was the study of Italian politics. Norman and his wife, Grazia Peduzzi, were living near her family in Milan in 1980, when Norman, in exchange for an office borrowed from his brother-in-law, agreed to analyze some data collected from seven hundred governmental offices in the Lombardy region of Northern Italy. Norman's learning algorithm, which gets smarter at each pass through data, did an excellent job of figuring out why some Italian municipalities are more efficient than others.



                      The program was then borrowed by Tom. He was using it to study fluid flows -- his dissertation topic -- when one night he changed the inputs. He took out the wave data and replaced them with football statistics. Ten years' worth of data produced some surprising rules. When, for example, a visiting team is up against a divisional opponent it has lost to at home in the previous same-season matchup, and the Las Vegas line (the difference that the Las Vegas bookies expect between the points scored by the two teams) has it pegged as an underdog by at least three points, then bet on the visiting team. Meyer, his brothers, and some friends in Las Vegas began using Prophet to run a sports betting business. The operation cleared more than fifty thousand dollars in its first year. Tom used the money to buy a thirteen-bedroom former sorority bear the University of Illinois, which he renamed Feynman House [Feynman was a brilliant physicist] and rented out to his fellow graduate students. After moving to Santa Fe, Tom was still getting calls from tough-sounding characters in Las Vegas, until Jim McGill, fearing conflict of interest, made him promise to get out of the betting business. "Football or finance, all you do is plug in different data," says Tom.



                      -- there is more from there, lightly describing the different between linear and non-linear equations.



                      But we need Prophet for Profit!

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                        Here's more interesting reading on Norman Packard...

                        http://www.thomasbass.com/work7.htm

                        Playing more than one ticket per game is betting against yourself.

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                          Posted: December 13, 2003, 5:32 pm - IP Logged

                          Quote: Originally posted by Millennium on December 13, 2003







                          JAP69:

                          I've read your post (printed it out!) and looks like I'll have to keep re-reading it.

                          All of that seems like a hell of a lot of work!

                          once it is set in place it only takes about twenty minutes each night to update the data. I will only update the due combos every two to four weeks. I have worked the three and four game almost twenty years so I have that knowledge to refer to.

                          1) What software are you using?

                          I use versabet 34

                          2) How much do you put down per day?

                          I do not play the game with a lot of bets. Anywhere from $0.00 up to what I can afford.

                          3) How good a hit rate have you had?

                          My personal money hits or losses I keep to myself.

                          This is a work and data sheet and these are the hits that came from the top ten and doubles plus the due combos from 11/25 to present. There are many choices as anyone can see so it is a judgement call every draw.

                          11/25 378 top ten
                          11/27 none
                          11/28 492-497 due combos
                          11/29 376 top ten 118 due combo
                          11/30 none

                          12/01 433-263 top ten + dbls
                          12/02 921 due combo
                          12/03 none
                          12/04 none
                          12/05 520 due combo
                          12/06 124-267 due combo
                          12/07 none
                          12/08 452 top ten 452 due combo
                          12/09 none
                          12/10 125 top ten 125 due combo
                          12/11 none
                          12/12 041 due combo
                          12/13 769 due combo 170 due combo






                          Thank you all for the compliments.

                          Oo'Ka

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                            Posted: December 13, 2003, 6:41 pm - IP Logged

                            Thank you JAP for all the explanations. 

                            How many past draws to you use?

                            I also use VB34 and I am interested to see Pennsylvania's combos.

                            Thanks,

                            wsls

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                              Posted: December 13, 2003, 7:08 pm - IP Logged

                              Hi Wsls,

                              For S.C. I went back to day one. We only had day draws up to July then eve draws. I have 789 entries
                              If you are going to do just eve draws go back at least 730 draws.
                              Mid and eve combined  at least 730 draws.
                              I done Michigan combo series on a special request at another site and I went back 730 draws mid and eve combined.
                              The 730 draws give a good base to start as it gives a more complete data base. Any combo out further than that is a slow runner anyhow.
                              If you are going to do mid and eve both Do them on a separate game each and merge them into one when finished. I found I can enter data quicker if I do not have to back drag the date for the eve entry.
                              I did not do this with S.C. as I did not think of it at the time. I may still do it to see how they look separated.S.C. mid-day does not have a good draw base for the combo data yet

                              Good luck

                              Oo'Ka

                                 
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