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Lottery number strategies subject of newspaper investigation

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I thought they were onto us. Woo, it is better that way.

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"Orkin, who has written several books about gambling odds, is among the unbelievers."

Mr. Orkin needs to stick with the math books and go somewhere and find some termites to kill. Every man or woman is going to believe in what they believe in. I believe in the numbers game, and I believe there are many ways to win at it. Keep winning LP members!

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If the lottery cannot be beaten how is it that many of us can pick 3 digits out of 10 and pin the tail on the donkey and we can do this just about everyday! If that is not beating then lottery then what is? How about when those here can pick 4 numbers right as well and again pin the tail on the donkey? If we can do this with pick 3 and or pick 4 what is to stop us from pick 6 correct numbers? There is nothing stopping it and so I disagree with the statement the lottery can Not be Beaten! Only the closed mind would agree with that statement.

I have already picked 4 correct numbers in match 6 what is to stop me from one day picking all 6 right? My philosophy is that if you are supposed to win … You WILL! And nothing or no one could stop that from happening! Again there is no stopping a person from picking all 6 numbers and win, unless the game is rigged! I would like to see an article done about shadiness of some lotteries rather than see an article that says that it cannot be beaten. It can be beaten if there is no outside interference going on!

At any rate I thought the part about this forum was done well and as Todd said:

"Some Lottery Post members literally spend hours each day coming up with the right numbers to play and carefully prepare elaborate forum posts designed to highlight the best numbers," Northrop said.

Yep and we are winning too!!!! As they say “The proof is in the Pudding”!

Winning is Winning is Winning, either 1 million, 1 hundred thousand, or 100 dollars its still called Winning!

Congrats Todd!

Best of Luck to All!

Don't waste your breathe Clairvoyance, I've been though this one time today.  And it came out the mouth of a poster who posts 10 threads per 30 minutes and knocks everybody else's threads off faster.

It's like I said before it's the people who haven't beaten it would make such an ignorant statement.

tenaj - i'm in the mood to break some fingers - will you join me?  lol

"Life is like a box of chocolates...you can speculate on what you're going to get through trial and error"

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If the lottery cannot be beaten how is it that many of us can pick 3 digits out of 10 and pin the tail on the donkey and we can do this just about everyday! If that is not beating then lottery then what is? How about when those here can pick 4 numbers right as well and again pin the tail on the donkey? If we can do this with pick 3 and or pick 4 what is to stop us from pick 6 correct numbers? There is nothing stopping it and so I disagree with the statement the lottery can Not be Beaten! Only the closed mind would agree with that statement.

I have already picked 4 correct numbers in match 6 what is to stop me from one day picking all 6 right? My philosophy is that if you are supposed to win … You WILL! And nothing or no one could stop that from happening! Again there is no stopping a person from picking all 6 numbers and win, unless the game is rigged! I would like to see an article done about shadiness of some lotteries rather than see an article that says that it cannot be beaten. It can be beaten if there is no outside interference going on!

At any rate I thought the part about this forum was done well and as Todd said:

"Some Lottery Post members literally spend hours each day coming up with the right numbers to play and carefully prepare elaborate forum posts designed to highlight the best numbers," Northrop said.

Yep and we are winning too!!!! As they say “The proof is in the Pudding”!

Winning is Winning is Winning, either 1 million, 1 hundred thousand, or 100 dollars its still called Winning!

Congrats Todd!

Best of Luck to All!

Don't waste your breathe Clairvoyance, I've been though this one time today.  And it came out the mouth of a poster who posts 10 threads per 30 minutes and knocks everybody else's threads off faster.

It's like I said before it's the people who haven't beaten it would make such an ignorant statement.

tenaj - i'm in the mood to break some fingers - will you join me?  lol

Bravo!  I agree 110% !  Bob bg (Smarty Pants)

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You know the funny thing. I used to buy all kinds of books then I read one that made the most sence. It looked at all major winners in the past 20 years. 95% of them spent 1 buck on a quick pick and thats who always wins. No lucky numbers or birthdays ever payout.

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You know the funny thing. I used to buy all kinds of books then I read one that made the most sence. It looked at all major winners in the past 20 years. 95% of them spent 1 buck on a quick pick and thats who always wins. No lucky numbers or birthdays ever payout.

i agree with you on jackpot games.  cash 3 and cash 4 is workable.

love to nibble those micey feet.

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It's always the people who don't play the game who know exactly why you can't win.  Even random has patterns.  You start with a ballset collection, after a time you find there are hot, average and cold numbers.  When you check them a year later within the life of the ballset collection, you find the hot numbers are still hot, the average are still average and the cold or dead numbers are still doing next to nothing.  When the ballset collection is changed, a portion of the numbers totally change to a different hit rate.

I notice the part of the article doesn't cover where the numbers come from for the lucky number books.  I've seen them and really wondered if any thought and strategy goes into the picks, or if they are just random picks pretending to be the result of research or mystic picks.

Also noticed the article doesn't get into the Lottery Post hit rate for predictors . . .

BobP

Good feedback.  I did mention the stat boards, and many other things to the reporter.  It turns out that there was a decidedly negative angle towards the lottery, and I'm guessing that my comments would make the lottery seem too fun.

Gee, it was a decidely negative article?  Big surprise, huh?

When they start out with

In sum: The lottery cannot be beaten.

"There is no system that can improve your chances of winning the lottery, period," says Mike Orkin, a California mathematician who has written extensively about gambling odds. ...that's kind of telling.

And let's not forget, bumblebees cannot fly.  That's a fact. Science says so. It's impossible. Therefore, every time you see a bumblebee, remember.....they beat the odds.

They started out the article negative, so it wasn't a surprise that it would stay that way. I doubt however, that it will change many peoples minds who play the lottery.

pick 3 and pick 4 is bad and is bad all your money out. i agree with the article. you can't win at those but only get even.

i am real happy lottery post got a write up in the article.

i play for fun and always play pick 6 games or multi state games. at least i know i am going to loose maybe 10 dollars over a month and not 50 dollars a day with these wheels.

The Quantum Master
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"In sum: The lottery cannot be beaten."

Thank you Captain Obvious for that awe inspiring revelation.

Most of the millions of people who line up to play the lottery did not realize this till now.

These millions choose numbers based in a variety of methods:
Analytical, Statistical, Physics, Mythical, Spiritual, Psychic, Astrological, Quick pick, Birth date, Wheel driven, Impulse event driven, Dream related, Self generated random numbers, Mechanical self generated random numbers, Electronic self generated random numbers, Subconscious suggestion, The little voice in your head that says; "Play these numbers...", etc.

There is one thing these people have in common, they are ALL predictions base in some kind of method that seems logical to the person using it.

I don’t think that for one moment a person stepping up to the counter and asking the clerk to place a bet on whatever numbers they’ve chosen does not have somewhere in the back of their mind, "The lottery cannot be beaten."

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Two hundred years ago you didn't have to be a scientist to make the statement "what goes up must come down" because that's how it had always been.  A hundred years from now someone may say a hundred years ago, you didn't have to a mathematician to make the statement "a lottery can't be beaten" because that how it had always been.  This reporter writes about what has always been when most of us lottery players are dreaming of what will be tomorrow.  We may never find that winning lottery strategy, but if we win the big prize once we won't care and the search will have been worth it.

RJOh

HAPPY WEDNESDAY "RJOH".....12/7

Your points are excellent and right on target.........funny, someone last Saturday said in another Blog that the Educational Level  of the Lotterypost was apparently very low, based on some of the posts he had read.........As a College Educated Woman, I strongly disagree......and you are one of many people, in this Forum,  who in my opinion,  is highly educated, and a true Thinker....

Addendum: One doesn't have to have a College Education to be Educated or Intelligent..Just look at "Bill Gates".........

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"In sum: The lottery cannot be beaten."

Thank you Captain Obvious for that awe inspiring revelation.

Most of the millions of people who line up to play the lottery did not realize this till now.

These millions choose numbers based in a variety of methods:
Analytical, Statistical, Physics, Mythical, Spiritual, Psychic, Astrological, Quick pick, Birth date, Wheel driven, Impulse event driven, Dream related, Self generated random numbers, Mechanical self generated random numbers, Electronic self generated random numbers, Subconscious suggestion, The little voice in your head that says; "Play these numbers...", etc.

There is one thing these people have in common, they are ALL predictions base in some kind of method that seems logical to the person using it.

I don’t think that for one moment a person stepping up to the counter and asking the clerk to place a bet on whatever numbers they’ve chosen does not have somewhere in the back of their mind, "The lottery cannot be beaten."

HAPPY WEDNESDAY.......12/7

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Writer of the article mentions Lottery Post, apparently noticing that Lottery Post is the leading lottery site in the whole worldwide web.  I agree with this observation, by the way.

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The mathemetician should have said the lottery is very difficult to beat but not impossible. The only thing making it very difficult is the state's take at 50% or more. If there was no take, a good portion of predictors here at LP would prove that "impossible" claim to be incorrect.

Even with the state's take, there are predictors still showing profit in various games in various states. Obviously they didn't take the time to look at the LP predictor stats.

Todd, congrats on getting your name and site in print. Is it just me or is there a STEADILY INCREASING membership? (28,000 +) So I guess we owe a big thanks to the negative article.   It just shows that there are a lot of people out there who think this game CAN be beaten...otherwise we all wouldn't be spending hours each day trying to do it.

Posted 4/6:  IL Pick 3 midday and evening until they hit:  555, 347 (str8).

Chief Bottle Washer
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Thanks Rick.  I didn't notice an overwhelming increase based on the mention in the paper, especially since the article's author failed to provide a link.  (Not nice.)  The membership overall has been continuing to grow at a rapid pace, however, which was helped more than anything by some redesign work I did to the site design.  That allowed searched engines to more easily index the pages of the site, which leads to a far greater number of high-ranking hits on the big search engines, like Google and Yahoo.

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Well Todd, whatever you did, it is definitely working with the membership rolls.

A PS to my previous post.....There are 12 predictors showing a lifetime profit in the pick 6 games which are obviously the hardest to win and involve the largest of all the states games "take", so the "mathemetician's" statement has been proven false right here at LP.

WTG predictors!

Posted 4/6:  IL Pick 3 midday and evening until they hit:  555, 347 (str8).

Chief Bottle Washer
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Right on Rick!  One of the great things about the predictions page is that it doesn't tell a lie -- if you're ahead, then you really did beat the game, no doubt about it.  And that's using the state payouts, rather than what one could get playing online!  There are so many talented predictors, it's really great to see.

Check the State Lottery Report Card

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Help eliminate computerized drawings!

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