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SoCal man sues to get share of $315 million lottery jackpot

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Posted: December 16, 2005, 4:32 pm - IP Logged

If anyone needs an example of a Lotto Pool contract, let me know. I have mine somewhere around here in electronic format. All of my members signed...and there are rules, etc. such as paying on time and all that.

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    Posted: December 16, 2005, 5:36 pm - IP Logged

    Money has no friends, only leeches. Do it alone, or don't do it.

    Cheers

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      Posted: December 16, 2005, 5:53 pm - IP Logged

      I think he should get piece of the pie if indeed he played with them on the regular basis.

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        Posted: December 16, 2005, 7:36 pm - IP Logged

        If I did not pay my money to the pool to buy tickets for that drawing, I would never expect winnings regardless how many times I had played in the pool previously.  I hope his other non-pool co-workers give him crap about his lawsuit.  This is about jealousy 100%.

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          Posted: December 16, 2005, 7:41 pm - IP Logged

          I think he should get piece of the pie if indeed he played with them on the regular basis.

          As the one statement indicated, he hadnt been in the pool for a year , so what in heavens gives him the right to proclaim a stake in it. Sorry this smells of greed. Hopefully the courts will toss this case out and move on to issues of importance. No settlement should even transpire. Unless he has receipts showing he made payments on a weekly basis towards this lottery pool. (which I'll bet the farm he doesnt). 

          Our work lottery pool is clearly spelled out. You dont pay in, you dont get the payouts :) Each week the board is cleared there is no rollover of monies to cover any player. The winnings each week are dispersed equally. There was a week when we hit $100 and the one player wasnt in the pool, he wanted his share and we kindly said, wheres your receipt for play for that week? He nodded and agreed he hadnt played...you snooze you looze.Its that simple.

           

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            Posted: December 16, 2005, 8:54 pm - IP Logged

            I think he should get piece of the pie if indeed he played with them on the regular basis.

            As the one statement indicated, he hadnt been in the pool for a year , so what in heavens gives him the right to proclaim a stake in it. Sorry this smells of greed. Hopefully the courts will toss this case out and move on to issues of importance. No settlement should even transpire. Unless he has receipts showing he made payments on a weekly basis towards this lottery pool. (which I'll bet the farm he doesnt). 

            Our work lottery pool is clearly spelled out. You dont pay in, you dont get the payouts :) Each week the board is cleared there is no rollover of monies to cover any player. The winnings each week are dispersed equally. There was a week when we hit $100 and the one player wasnt in the pool, he wanted his share and we kindly said, wheres your receipt for play for that week? He nodded and agreed he hadnt played...you snooze you looze.Its that simple.

             

            Good work! It's about time Pools get their business straight. I am sick of freeloaders who expect to get out more than they put in.

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              Posted: December 16, 2005, 8:57 pm - IP Logged

              I think he should get piece of the pie if indeed he played with them on the regular basis.

              As the one statement indicated, he hadnt been in the pool for a year , so what in heavens gives him the right to proclaim a stake in it. Sorry this smells of greed. Hopefully the courts will toss this case out and move on to issues of importance. No settlement should even transpire. Unless he has receipts showing he made payments on a weekly basis towards this lottery pool. (which I'll bet the farm he doesnt). 

              Our work lottery pool is clearly spelled out. You dont pay in, you dont get the payouts :) Each week the board is cleared there is no rollover of monies to cover any player. The winnings each week are dispersed equally. There was a week when we hit $100 and the one player wasnt in the pool, he wanted his share and we kindly said, wheres your receipt for play for that week? He nodded and agreed he hadnt played...you snooze you looze.Its that simple.

               

              What type of receipt do you use?  Sounds like it's a very well thought out pool Yes Nod where each drawing stands on its own, is terminated and doesn't carry forward any ties to the next. 

              Good luck to everyone!

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                Posted: December 16, 2005, 9:00 pm - IP Logged

                Money has no friends, only leeches. Do it alone, or don't do it.

                I WEAR A BATHING SUIT IN MY POOL...THAT'S IT. Lottery Pools are becoming a sleeze ball's paradise. I'll never participate in a pool or go partners with anyone. And...remember to check your own tickets.

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                  Posted: December 16, 2005, 9:46 pm - IP Logged

                  I use a Program called Peachtree. Each Participant has an  account within the program. Once the monies are collected and imputed, a receipt is printed. The player then gets a copy of the tickets based on that weeks plays. This way a paper record and a database can be used in courts (if it ever got that far out of hand) to show who played and who didnt. The receipts have a message area that spells out the rules for each play period.

                  ~~Is it true, Is it kind,Is it necessary. ~~~

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                    Posted: December 16, 2005, 9:52 pm - IP Logged

                    I use a Program called Peachtree. Each Participant has an  account within the program. Once the monies are collected and imputed, a receipt is printed. The player then gets a copy of the tickets based on that weeks plays. This way a paper record and a database can be used in courts (if it ever got that far out of hand) to show who played and who didnt. The receipts have a message area that spells out the rules for each play period.

                    Thanks very much for your answer.  That sounds like a really good system that covers all bases!! Good luck to all of you .. hope you hit a big jackpot!!  Big Grin Santa 

                    Good luck to everyone!

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                      Posted: December 17, 2005, 3:13 am - IP Logged

                      Maybe he got the idea from reading the posts on this forum...Green laugh

                      LOL! That's funny! Never crossed his mind before finding this board. 

                       

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                        Posted: December 17, 2005, 8:57 am - IP Logged

                        simply amazing. that's like saying "i was gonna buy Microsoft or Google Shares the day of the IPO; but i was busy. So can i please have my brokerage account reflect the purchase and deposit millions in my bank account" lol that dude has some big balls. i hope they give him ZERO

                         

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                          Posted: December 17, 2005, 10:56 am - IP Logged

                          The only surprise I see in all of his is that he is the only one that has filed so far......You guys are in california....quick somebody start a documentary on this group for the next couple of years....I would pay money to see how their future folds out after the jackpot....

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                            Posted: December 17, 2005, 11:20 am - IP Logged

                            I guess the court will think the fact that he worked in the same office where there was a lottery pool will give his claim some merit.  That should protect his lawyer, who after all only knows what the client tells him, but his lawyer also wants a chunk of lottery change and is aware of the gray areas of malpractice. I'm sure neither the loser nor his lawyer really want to to go to court where every other person in the pool will testify he wasn't in the pool and every person who who worked in the office but wasn't in the pool will testify they heard no mention of him being in the pool prior to the drawing.  The loser will will lose in court, but he will win if the winners give in and pay up to end his harrassment.  If this happened to me, I would much rather pay my $50,000 to the best and most vicious lawyer I could find to fight back against this guy and make his life as miserable as possible (and set an example in case anyone else was thinking of trying the same thing) rather than give in and pay him.

                            And sue hiss ass for my legal fees for a frivolous law suit

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                              Posted: December 17, 2005, 12:59 pm - IP Logged

                              I use a Program called Peachtree. Each Participant has an  account within the program. Once the monies are collected and imputed, a receipt is printed. The player then gets a copy of the tickets based on that weeks plays. This way a paper record and a database can be used in courts (if it ever got that far out of hand) to show who played and who didnt. The receipts have a message area that spells out the rules for each play period.

                              As long as I've seen the receipt from a previous week, what's to prevent me from printing my own if you win? If you use a printer at work and I also have access to it my forensic expert will be testifying that all of the receipts were printed on the same machine. Even if a receipt is accepted as proof that somebody paid in, lack of one doesn't prove somebody didn't pay in.  Maybe I pissed you off and you really are trying to cheat me out of my share. If there's ever a court case the decision is going to be based on the court's faith in testimony andthe court's faith in the validity of any written agreement.

                              In the California case each of the seven people who were definitely part of the pool has about $2 million worth of after-tax incentive to tell their version of the story, and that gives the plaintiff an excellent opportunity to question their credibility. Naturally they'll have the same opportunity to question his. Based on the information in the article some of the winners have admitted that the plaintiff was a member of a pool in the past, and the claim that this was the first time that the particular group played together strongly suggest there isn't a written agreement.  The plaintiff may not have good proof that he is entitled to a share, but it sounds like the defendants may not have any proof that he wasn't a legitimate member of the pool. The best evidence a pool can have is a well written agreement that clearly spells out the rules,  lists all of the members, and is signed by all of the members and notarized. All members should have a certified copy. The rules have to include the procedures for failure of a regular player to pay, and  for dropping somebody from the pool, or you're just begging for a lawsuit if a regular player isn't in a drawing the results in a significant win. If people pay in two weeks ahead of time it will be easy to fairly accomodate somebody who misses a couple of days of work, and still allow enough time to send a certified letter notifying somebody that they're being dropped.

                              There's nothing you can do that will guarantee that somebody doesn't file a lawsuit, but a good plan will certainly make it much harder for them to convince a jury that they deserve a share. Its also a lot of effort to put into something that's very unlikely to return a profit.