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SoCal man sues to get share of $315 million lottery jackpot

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Posted: December 20, 2005, 6:09 am - IP Logged

Regarding Members Paying into a Pool: Get 100% of the Pool money up front and advance play for a specifed number of drawings. Period...Have a Closed End Pool,ie. $5.00 each for 10 drawings=$50.00 per Pool Member every five weeks. Have it dated, signed and closed out, disolved at the end of the 5 weeks, then if you want form a new pool start all over. A bit simpler; if you don'y pre-pay you don't play. It's a step in the right direction.

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    Posted: December 20, 2005, 8:54 am - IP Logged

    Good advice from both of you...with the new year coming up, I guess it's time that we look at the rules again. I do have an attorney friend that would look them over at no cost, so maybe that's what I will do.

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      Posted: December 20, 2005, 3:46 pm - IP Logged

      I Agree!  good advice.  I'm reviewing our rules too.  I've drafted a receipt for the pool buy-in that includes the rules and requires members to sign that they have read, understand and agree to the rules.  The rules used to allow me to pick the numbers but I'm changing it so that I have to buy quick picks.

      I won't give up the option of being able to buy my own tickets though.  This freedom is given to all members and has always been a part of our rules and is included with every email distributing the numbers.  The only time I wouldn't feel free to buy my own ticket is if I couldn't get the email out before the actual draw.  Everybody likes the pool but no one else wants to run it and is happy to have me do it; there's no way I would limit my playing options to the pool.  If it came down to a choice, I'd say bye bye to the pool.  If the "poolmeister"  can't play outside the pool, then none of the members can.

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        Posted: December 20, 2005, 8:59 pm - IP Logged

        I Agree!  good advice.  I'm reviewing our rules too.  I've drafted a receipt for the pool buy-in that includes the rules and requires members to sign that they have read, understand and agree to the rules.  The rules used to allow me to pick the numbers but I'm changing it so that I have to buy quick picks.

        I won't give up the option of being able to buy my own tickets though.  This freedom is given to all members and has always been a part of our rules and is included with every email distributing the numbers.  The only time I wouldn't feel free to buy my own ticket is if I couldn't get the email out before the actual draw.  Everybody likes the pool but no one else wants to run it and is happy to have me do it; there's no way I would limit my playing options to the pool.  If it came down to a choice, I'd say bye bye to the pool.  If the "poolmeister"  can't play outside the pool, then none of the members can.

        LottoPools- Good to hear you are examining your Pool's policies for the new year. Your advance purchase format is the only way to go. You know my opinion about buying tickets outside the Pool. If you must, be certain to be totally transparent about the outside purchases, ie. buy them from a different retailer than you buy your Pool's tickets and fully disclose the details concerning your outside buys. You will be acting prudently to protect yourself if Lady Luck strikes! Best of Luck, as always.

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          Posted: December 20, 2005, 9:06 pm - IP Logged

          Thanks demonter. Like I said before, I rarely buy outside the pool, but I will start buying them in other stores than the Pool's. But I most likely won't buy them anymore. If you think about it, if we hit a $300 million jackpot, my cut after taxes & cash option is around $15 million cash in my Pool. So, is it worth taking an extra estimated $75-$80 million with my own purchase and have someone sue me regardless, or be happy with $15 million, which is more than enough for anyone? Not to mention the fact that many others in my Pool will be millionaires. Greed is one of the Seven Deadlies :)

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            Posted: December 20, 2005, 11:03 pm - IP Logged

            "I treated him like a son, always lecturing him," said Joyce Onori, 60, one of the winners. "I would not have expected this from him."

            I would not want to be one of this woman's children.  There is a sense of animosity in her statement.

            Office politics and personality clashes can easily create he said/she said situations.  I think this group of winners could all make their lives a lot easier by participating in a confidential settlement and each of them giving him $10,000, if there is sufficient reason to believe that he would have participated had he been at work that day. 

            I'm not saying people should give away their money willy-nilly if someone makes a frivolous claim, but it's a shame that being a winner doesn't always bring out the best in people. 

             

             

            I agree.

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              Posted: December 21, 2005, 1:46 am - IP Logged

              I don't agree. I've never been one to argue over money. But you know what? I've been stupid! To make my "life easier" I often gave in, but as long as people are honest and know a decision is fair and just, they should always defend their position. This is a matter of principle. If he was not an active member in the pool, then he doesn't deserve to get a share. What's to prevent others from following his actions? We really don't know the entire story, but if the article which states he hadn't played in a long time is accurate, this whole lawsuit is a case of sour grapes.  Any payoff is an admission of wrongdoing and just opens up a bigger can of worms.

              What I do agree with is that it's a shame that things like this happen. Money definitely brings out the worst in people, but if they don't want to pay it doesn't mean they're being stingy. It just means nobody likes to be cheated.  I don't think a group of coworkers that won so much money would deny him his share if his claim was valid. By the way, where did it say that he would take a small settlement? It's my understanding he wants a cut of the jackpot.

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                Posted: December 22, 2005, 12:53 pm - IP Logged
                This used to happen in a pool I played in.  Player X would be out on the day the tickets were purchased and we would have to decide what to do.  Usually someone would cover for them and accept responsibility for getting their money back.  If nobody wanted to spot them, and we couldn’t reach them by phone, they were out.  Looking back now, if we had won when a situation like this happened, it probably would have gone to court.  We were coworkers and got along pretty well but money definitely changes people.  Besides, the person that’s left out has family/friends that may influence any decision to sue.

                 

                I think it is important to play with people you trust. That being said, given human nature, you’d better have a way to keep things nice and tidy.  I’m in a new pool at a new job and because people kept forgetting to buy when it was their turn, I now buy the tickets for our pool.  We each pay $5.00 in advance and the numbers are sent out via email in a format that includes the rules about playing numbers outside of the pool, which we all do.  Those emails also include the effective dates and names of people leaving or joining the pool.   Right now, we are paid thru 1-27-06 and I will collect the money for the next rotation well in advance.  But of course, we WILL win before that’s necessary!

                 

                Pools aren’t bad, you just have to remember that the players are human and subject to turn greedy at any time; that applies to friends, family, and co-workers.

                HAPPY THURSDAY......12/22/05...(3DYS TO CHRISTMAS)

                HI THERE "BUMBLE BEE"....LottoPools....May I say you make a very very cute Bumble Bee... .even though your stinger is powerful.......

                While Back at the Ranch.......I concurr w/your Posting, it's excellent...straight to the point..it sounds as though you are associated w/a delightful collective body of players and lets hope it stays that way, for everyone's sake......especially when your group wins big......

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                  Posted: December 22, 2005, 1:39 pm - IP Logged

                  Most people join a lottery pool as a cheap way to cover a lot of chances to win a lottery jackpot.  When some of them are too cheap to pay up every time the pool plays then it obvious they're the ones looking for something for nothing because cheap is still more than they want to pay. 

                   * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                     
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                    Posted: December 23, 2005, 6:52 pm - IP Logged

                    Most people join a lottery pool as a cheap way to cover a lot of chances to win a lottery jackpot.  When some of them are too cheap to pay up every time the pool plays then it obvious they're the ones looking for something for nothing because cheap is still more than they want to pay. 

                    I agree in part that folks who pool together do so to increase their ticket wins.

                     Otherwise we *had* to boot a co-worker out of our pool for the reason cited- Rarely cast money into the pool but always agreed to *pay*later out of the pool winnings. We finally made it a pay-n-play as you go. Each game was separate and playable based on the members. The guy still badgers us to let him back in when the jackpot gets pretty high ;we graciously decline.  The irony is...he's one of those guys that would try to sue us saying that at some point he was in our pool. Luckily we document and have receipts showing each play member and the game. The rules are printed on each receipt . My accounting program is awesome for keeping track of payouts and funds received in.

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                      Posted: December 24, 2005, 11:24 am - IP Logged

                      If the A&P that I work at formed a Mega Millions pool, I would participate. But not for NY Lotto.

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                        Posted: December 24, 2005, 3:30 pm - IP Logged

                        CASH - it appears that you are pretty sour against the NY Lottery...why is that? Everytime I see that signature line, I laugh my kiester off....thanks for the holiday laughs! Jester Laugh