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Posted: August 16, 2008, 3:16 am - IP Logged

If that man wanted to make that donation to me the paster should have taken it.  By his refusal, he has judged his pairshioner and that also is a sin.  A man is not supposed to put his money in a hole in the ground..he is supposed to make his money grow.  for poor folks, lottery winnings are the way that most of them do it.  I hope that that man finds a church that is willing to take his tithe.

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    Posted: August 16, 2008, 3:29 am - IP Logged

    If that man wanted to make that donation to me the paster should have taken it.  By his refusal, he has judged his pairshioner and that also is a sin.  A man is not supposed to put his money in a hole in the ground..he is supposed to make his money grow.  for poor folks, lottery winnings are the way that most of them do it.  I hope that that man finds a church that is willing to take his tithe.

    I Agree! I hope he finds a church who would be willing to except his donation and do some good with it. I'm sure there are quite a few churches out there, that wouldn't turn him away.

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      Posted: August 17, 2008, 12:47 am - IP Logged

      a lot of people belive in tilthing 10% to god so i don't see why they wouldn't take it, money is money

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        Posted: August 17, 2008, 1:51 am - IP Logged

        He's welcome to donate to time*treat's church-of-the fire, brimstone and scratch-offs; where the comdemned spend eternity listening to people who are bad at math (attempt to) argue the tax implications of lump sum vs annuity, and each sermon ends with a lovely jaunt through the Book of Revelation ... or USC 26, depending.Clown

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          Posted: August 19, 2008, 10:06 am - IP Logged

          This reminds me of a story my pastor told me long time ago.

                    There was a great storm coming and a little town was evacuating their people.  A little old man refused to leave and said, "God will save me"  The rains came.  The old man prayed that God would rescue him.  The people came back and told him he needs to get out now.  He refused saying "God will save me"  The water rose up as high as his porch!  A boat was sent out to rescue the old man.  He, again, refused saying "God will save me".  It rained harder and harder.  The water was in his house, now.  The man climbed to his roof.  A helicopter came to rescue him.  He refused, AGAIN, and said "God will save me"  The man drowned.

          At the Pearly Gates, the old man asked God why didn't He save him?  God said,

          "I sent my people back for you.  I sent a boat for you.  I sent a helicopter for you.  You refused everything I offered you, even though it was what you asked of me." 

          The whole point of the story is when you pray, you are to look around you and see what God is doing for you.

          These pastors are asking for donations.  They are asking people to help with this or that.  And then when someone gives them something, like Lottery winnings, they turn their backs.  God is giving it to them, but they don't want it.  Did the pastor ever stop to think this might be a way for that winner to redeem himself or give back to the Church that brought him to God?

          No No

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            Posted: August 19, 2008, 11:16 am - IP Logged

            i got a standing deal with god, when i win money i toss it into the air. whatever god catches he can keep. so far he doesnt seem to want money at all.

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              Posted: August 19, 2008, 8:32 pm - IP Logged

              Of course Bingo is a form of gambling.. but the Church in question here is Baptist i.e. fundamentalist (Bible-based), and Bingo is usually run by Catholic churches.. and since Bingo proceeds go to the Church, I'd not see the harm. I don't even know where in the Bible it says not to wager money, but anything not to the glory of God is sin, so that could include even burping. Any sin from gambling would be what is done to get money to wager and what is done with winnings. Spending $20 of a tax refund for a night of Bingo and putting some of the winnings in the collection basket and using the rest to buy gas or other necessities vs. embezzling the money to play or spending the winnings at the nudie bar. In fact the Church should then question any money they get, if it was gotten in some "sinful" way such as by dishonest means. 600K to the Church is better than 600K to the 'Bing. Even a Church can spend the money in either a Godly or un-Godly way. Gold-plated statue of Mary (with real human hair and swiveling head) or feed the hungry and witness to them?

              The best way to tithe would be to donate to a charity instead of the Church if they have a problem with it.

              Food for thought: all gambling is, is a "fair" way to randomly redistribute the power to demand goods and services.

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                Posted: August 20, 2008, 4:44 pm - IP Logged

                Every organization has its principles. If his church do not accept, he can donate to other charities.

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                  Posted: August 20, 2008, 6:23 pm - IP Logged

                  i got a standing deal with god, when i win money i toss it into the air. whatever god catches he can keep. so far he doesnt seem to want money at all.

                  The first time less came down than went up would be the last time you did that. LOL

                  In neo-conned Amerika, bank robs you.
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                    Posted: August 20, 2008, 6:35 pm - IP Logged

                    Maybe, he wants recognition(glory) if he wanted to donate that badly, he would do it anonymously...

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                      Posted: August 24, 2008, 10:04 pm - IP Logged

                      Isn't Bingo a form of gambling?

                       

                      In 2003 a man on Marco Island in FL won $14.3M and the Salvation Army returned his $100,000 check.  He was a retired stockbroker and said that investing in the market is just as much as a gamble, so he was puzzled by the reaction to his donation.

                      Bingo is a form of gambling and some religious places have BINGO nite there. LOL

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                        Posted: September 6, 2008, 10:08 pm - IP Logged

                        After Robert Powell hit the Florida Lottery jackpot last month and took home more than $6 million, he thought of his church.

                        And he offered to drop his tithe, around $600,000, in the collection plate of First Baptist Orange Park.

                        But the church and Pastor David Tarkington politely declined and told Powell they will not accept the lottery winnings.

                        Many churches do not approve of the lottery and gambling but on the other hand Pastor Dr. Lorenzo Hall of the El-Beth-El Divine Holiness Church says $600,000 can do a lot of good.

                        "I'm against the lottery, but if one of my members won the lottery, I wish and I hope he would give 10% to the church, we could do a lot of things with that money," says Hall.

                        As a Holiness minister, Dr. Hall says he does not ask where members get the money they decide to donate.

                        He said he would welcome Powell's donation to his inner city church anytime.

                        "We are in the process now of building a youth center, and you would be surprised at the people that can be helped with $600,000," says Hall.

                        Bethel Baptist Church member Lottie Walker says if she won, the first thing she would do is give lottery money to her church.

                        "Anything extra is bonus so that would be an extra blessing of offering after that, so if I did win lotto, sweepstakes I would tithe to my church," says Walker.

                        First Baptist Orange Park Pastor David Tarkington would not say exactly why the church refused the money, saying only he didn't want to talk about members' gifts.

                        Pastor, I am not lying, I am injured - Graduate and Marine Engineer, after I was disabled. Earlier I as a Child under 6 of age for 2 years did nothing but looking and understanding the 12 pages of calender and the numbers. When disabled aged around 25, I was after Mass Service in Church-Amager-Copenhagen-Denmark was told of the lottery winning and drama an episode outside the church. I WAS TOLD NO ONE CAN PREDICT 7 LOTTERY NUMBERS FROM 35 OF THE DANISH LOTTERY, I KNEW THIS FEAT I CAN DO, AND FINALLY ENDED UP GATHERING CATHOLICS TO GIVE ME INVESTMENT TO WIN THE DANISH/SCANDINAVIAN LOTTERY AND KENO, IN 16 YEARS I HAVE WON FOR GROUPS OF PEOPLE A TOTAL OF DKK 600 MILLION OR 100 MILLION US $, FOR A TOTAL INVESTMENT OF ABOUT US $ 10MILLION.  ALL THE WINNINGS WERE IN ADVANCE MORE OR LESS FOR CERTAIN ASSUMED TO WIN ALTHOUGH LOST.  WITH NUMBERS IF ALL DATA AND RESEARCH IN THIS WORLD IS GIVEN NUMBERS AND ALL INCIDENTS AGAIN NUMBERED LIKE LOTTERY COMBINATIONS IT IS POSSIBLE FOR MANKING TO PREDICT THE MSOT LIKELY HAPPENINGS IN ALL WALKS OF LIFE AND LIVING INCLUDING RESEARCH AND MEDICINE.  LOTTERY CAN BE WON WITH BRAINS AND I AM ONE GODS LIFE ON EARTH WHO WILL PROVE TO MAN AND CHURCH NOT TO LOOK AT IT WITH GAMBLING, AS IT IS INVESTMENT FOR GODS PLAN WITH NUMBERS THE NUMBERS SECRETS AND USES STILL REMAINS UNKNOWN TO MAN, ALTHOUGH THEORIES KNOWN TO ME. HOWEVER WHEN ALL PLAY DIFFERENT NUMBERS, ONE WILL FINALLY CATCH-THAT IS LUCK, BUT IT CAN BE CAUGHT WITH BRAINS TOO... PASTOR YOU ARE WELCOME TO SEE THE TRUTH. WHEN THE EARTH QUAKE TOOK PLACE IN PAKISTAN, WITHIN 3 MONTHS I COLLECTED FOR PAKISTANIS IN DK AND UK TOTALLY 3 MILLION US $ AND MADE HOMES FOR THE HOMELESS., WITH LOTTERY WINNINGS COMING WITH BRAIN DRAIN WORK. FROM STEVE CONSIDERED A LIVINGSAVIOUR BY 1000S.

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                          Posted: September 8, 2008, 7:55 am - IP Logged

                          Maybe the donation wasn't big enough?