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Dual multi-state lottery sales may keep jackpots lower

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Posted: January 15, 2010, 12:44 am - IP Logged

I wish there was a game across all states that we all could have a chance to win,,cant someone out there come up with a game we all could play a win about $50,000 instead of all those millions...

There are already games of this nature......scratchers and Pick 5

no need to have a game with multiple states that produce 50k jackpots when a state can stand alone and produce those type results

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    Posted: January 15, 2010, 1:09 am - IP Logged

    I feel that too many states offer too many games as it is right now. The more games, the more chances you have to lose your hard earned money. And by adding more games at different days of the week will only increase your chances of losing even more.

    Stick with the games available in your state and just play them. Stick with your budget and just sit back and enjoy life instead of chasing every dream that the Lotteries put out there for us to spend our money on.

    Playing any lottery game should be an "option" in ones budget. Not an increase for a demand to recover a states financial budget. And by adding more multi state games in more states, that's pretty sad. I'm glad Ohio did not join Powerball. Playing what is available is overwhelming as it is.

    So, in the long run, don't exceed your personal budget or else you will probably be doomed by spending more on the lottery just because it is there to play.

    You should start looking at the glass as half full instead of half empty. Everyone likes to have a variety. No one twist anyones arm to buy all tickets for all games but I bet everyone likes to have a variety of choices. One day/month/week you might get tired of playing PB and you switch over to MM. Anyone with a sensible business mind knows that you want to give as many options as possible for the consumer. You don't want that dollar to walk out the door and go to the competitor. One of the reasons that states are having budget shortfalls for lottery funded programs is because people travel to where they think they can win, to the neighboring state. If you lived 1hr from your state line and the opposing game was being played there and say for instance there were about 5 jackpot hits at the store right across the state line.....you can believe that the sales for that store are going to increase and your state is loosing dollars all because you don't want to give too many options......you won't stay in business very long like that.

    LOL as far as your comment about chasing every dream that lotteries put out there.......lol no worse than all the people chasing dreams in LA to be a big time actor or people chasing a dream of being a big time singer (American Idol) ................why should people settle for mediocrity when they can dream and aspire to be something/someone bigger & greater than they are. I'm not saying I'm not happy with my life as it is.....I love my life but I would just be a depressed ostrich with my head in the ground if it stayed like this until i took my last breath. As long as I am alive I am going to aspire for more. Why would I not want to be ambitious and long for more. I'm not saying that the lottery is the only way that I will attain more but (being one of my many dreams) it would be nice.

    "I'm glad Ohio did not join Powerball" .........I hate to be the one to break it to you but it was just confirmed today that Ohio will be adding Powerball on 1/31. I guess your only other option it to just move to a state that doesn't have lottery and then you won't have as many woes about playing.

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      Posted: January 15, 2010, 2:31 am - IP Logged

      Ok, while I am excited that my state, Kentucky, is ready to roll out Mega Millions along side Powerball, I am still having to wrestle with the ardouous question about identity security.

      Knowing that games are subject to individual states agreeing to a certain set of rules, some states have diffrerent and conflicting rules regarding Winner Identity security.

      Some states allow winners to shield themselves, out of regard for their personal safety, and identity control.

      Other states feel that personal identities MUST BE PUBLICIZED in order to show all players that "Real People REALLY DO WIN"

      as well as letting authorities/creditors know "erstwhile deadbeats now have real deep pockets, come feed, take as much as you want but eat all you take!"  While this measure insures "baddies don't get away with it..."

      It also exposes otherwise honest tax-paying bill-paying winners to IDENTITY THEFT!

      99 times out of 100, this thought is NEVER realy contemplated, especially in states where winners are compelled (probably through LOOSE interpretation of 'rules') to "go along to get along" and they don't mind the immediate publicity all that much....

      but in too many Winner's "where are they now" stories, (Jack Whittaker, and for some here in KY, back in the late 90's/early 00's a Florence native)  the windfall, and the publicity brought NOTHING BUT HEARTACHE, and Tragedy....the money gets eaten up faster than a winner could responsibly get ahold of managing it.  All the while, the media hits the poor sucker with the glare of the spotlight, exacerbating the problem further....and in the end they become dead, broken, and worse off than when they won...

      In my state, Identity control is squelched in favor of publicizing, to promote "Honest wins", and making sure "baddies don't get away with it...."

      And my question is...what do you do if you find yourself holding the ticket, and have to run this gauntlet, to get the money? 

      Up until now, the responses I have recived were completely inadequate.  they ranged from phony beards, to "move to another state" to "well just have your lawyer handle everything" to "Oh, well, you better get a good TAX ACCOUNTANT, because your tax rate just shot to the moon!"

      Some of you remember reading the John Stienbeck story of "The Black Pearl?"  In the end that poor man, and his family, were so torn at by others, that he cursed that pearl he found and threw it back into the sea....

      There MUST be a way to have a third party shield your identity, in states such as these, so as not to let either the state's clamor for regulation-keeping  trample on your 4th ammendment rights, when you DO attempt to claim, or any lawyer's suggestion for a TRUST vehicle that you agree to, completely eat up your windfall due to TRUST vehicle overhead....

      What must you do....because now you are that poor indigent who just found the "Black Pearl"

      The best advice i can offer is to do research.

      Call your lottery commission and ask many questions. Email them also........ lol I had to type & re-type this response. I almost gave you my strategy I plan to use to claim my jackpot when I win. Wow if I had typed that everyone on here would have known exactly who won...... *tickled*

      Don't let those few bad apples that have won and behaved badly give you a bad impression of winning. There are hundreds of multi-million dollar winners that handle it just fine.......well as far as we know but if they have issues we don't hear about it in the news.

      Me personally I can't wait to see that lottery sign go over 400 million.....I already know how to handle it and I'm well prepared tooDance

      Oogle  waiting patiently for my jackpot

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        Posted: January 15, 2010, 3:00 am - IP Logged

        You should start looking at the glass as half full instead of half empty. Everyone likes to have a variety. No one twist anyones arm to buy all tickets for all games but I bet everyone likes to have a variety of choices. One day/month/week you might get tired of playing PB and you switch over to MM. Anyone with a sensible business mind knows that you want to give as many options as possible for the consumer. You don't want that dollar to walk out the door and go to the competitor. One of the reasons that states are having budget shortfalls for lottery funded programs is because people travel to where they think they can win, to the neighboring state. If you lived 1hr from your state line and the opposing game was being played there and say for instance there were about 5 jackpot hits at the store right across the state line.....you can believe that the sales for that store are going to increase and your state is loosing dollars all because you don't want to give too many options......you won't stay in business very long like that.

        LOL as far as your comment about chasing every dream that lotteries put out there.......lol no worse than all the people chasing dreams in LA to be a big time actor or people chasing a dream of being a big time singer (American Idol) ................why should people settle for mediocrity when they can dream and aspire to be something/someone bigger & greater than they are. I'm not saying I'm not happy with my life as it is.....I love my life but I would just be a depressed ostrich with my head in the ground if it stayed like this until i took my last breath. As long as I am alive I am going to aspire for more. Why would I not want to be ambitious and long for more. I'm not saying that the lottery is the only way that I will attain more but (being one of my many dreams) it would be nice.

        "I'm glad Ohio did not join Powerball" .........I hate to be the one to break it to you but it was just confirmed today that Ohio will be adding Powerball on 1/31. I guess your only other option it to just move to a state that doesn't have lottery and then you won't have as many woes about playing.

        Can you please provide a link on this information about OH. It is contrary to the press release on their website with respect to starting date -

        http://www.ohiolottery.com/press_releases/PressReleasesDet.aspx?Id=1685

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          Can you please provide a link on this information about OH. It is contrary to the press release on their website with respect to starting date -

          http://www.ohiolottery.com/press_releases/PressReleasesDet.aspx?Id=1685

          Here's one news story reporting that Ohio will be offering Powerball.

          "No one remembers the person who almost climbed the mountain, only the person who eventually gets to the top."

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            Posted: January 15, 2010, 8:16 am - IP Logged

            I see where this is going.We are going to have a national lottery very soon.

            I hope not 'cause they won't keep the numbers the same and have say 10 people win 3 million dollars instead on one person winning 100 million.  They would probably increase the amount of numbers to something like 7/79  plus a bonus number so  there would be more money generated and  fewer winners.

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              Posted: January 16, 2010, 1:41 am - IP Logged

              The real losers will be those on-line businesses that sold PowerBall and MegaMillions tickets to players who didn't have the game in their states.  I doubt if their customers will continue to pay an extra dollar or more per tickets for their services once they can buy their tickets locally at cost.

               * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                 
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                I see where this is going.We are going to have a national lottery very soon.

                National Lottery is just a matter of time.  I said this a few months ago and I am more convinced of that fact now. It may be sooner than later. I will welcome a National Lottery. The prize structure should be one that will create more million dollar winners rather than one or two multi-millions winners.

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                  National Lottery is just a matter of time.  I said this a few months ago and I am more convinced of that fact now. It may be sooner than later. I will welcome a National Lottery. The prize structure should be one that will create more million dollar winners rather than one or two multi-millions winners.

                  On the topic of a National Lottery, this excerpt is from The Philadelphia Inquirer dated Thursday October 15th 2009:

                  "An even bigger game also is envisioned.

                  "If we develop a national game, it will probably be at a differentprice point," said Tom Shaheen, president of the Iowa-based Multi-StateLottery Association, which oversees Powerball.

                  "It might be $2. It might be $5," he said. "The other two games, I believe, would remain intact."

                  Each state will have to decide if it wants to participate in cross-selling or join a national lottery.

                  "It's totally an option for every state. They can opt out of it ifthey'd like to. We don't need any particular requirements as far as howmany to do it," Shaheen said.

                  Such a super lottery could happen by next fall, said Chuck Strutt, executive director of the Powerball group."

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                    I can sum up this article with one word....

                    Duh.

                    You can't predict random.