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Iowa Lottery threatens to deny jackpot payout if winner stays anonymous

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Posted: January 24, 2012, 4:02 pm - IP Logged

To avoid media coverage, claiming the ticket during a big news event like the Super Bowl, Election night, or some major breaking news story that's ongoing would be the best thing. I've noticed lottery winners don't get too much coverage during times like those.

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    Posted: January 24, 2012, 5:50 pm - IP Logged

    Something is a little fuzzy here 2. I think the ticket was stolen from its real winner.

    Or a situation like a few years ago where lottery computer techs figured out a way to print duplicate winning tickets that were identical to the originals, bypassing all security.  In a situation like this, some person with top level access sees the time limit is about to expire on MILLIONS of dollars, the real winner hasn't shown, so why let all that money go to waste?   They put their long-thought out plan into action.   They print the ticket, form a trust with a shady out-of-state lawyer and tell him they CANNOT be identified -- or else they will go to jail. 

    The lawyer tries to collect the money.  Hey 50/50 chance, right?  IF they get the money, they go to the Caribbean for the rest of their life, disappearing from Iowa.  :)

    I hope the AG does do a criminal investigation and find out what's really going on here.

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      Posted: January 24, 2012, 5:56 pm - IP Logged

      Correct. Stolen or not. It would have been kept private and nobody would be the wiser. There is still no advantage to waiting till the last minute though. At least I can't think of any reason.

      waiting until the last minute actually gets you MORE publicity.  But necessary in case this is some duplicate ticket that was printed by a lottery tech insider.  It happened before, it can happen again.  Somebody probably hacked the lottery system code.  They saw millions of dollars about to expire, and put their once-in-a-lifetime plan into action.  They had to wait until the last minute in case the REAL winner found the ticket in a drawer somewhere.

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        Posted: January 24, 2012, 6:57 pm - IP Logged

        Iowa Lottery Officials have stated that the winning $14.2 million ticket is bona fide as genuine.You would think the person who bought that winning lottery ticket would have signed it.The only person that did sign it was Crawford Shaw,an attorney for the trust.

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          Posted: January 24, 2012, 7:42 pm - IP Logged

          in his quest to stay bypass the rules and stay completely anonynmous, the winner has had more press than 250 million dollar jackpot winners. He "only" won 14 million which is next to nothing in jackpot standards so its not like anyone would of cared. Its not even a national lottery so i don't know he needed to got to such great lengths to remain anonymous. And unless he found his ticket the day it was claimed, turning in the ticket 2 hours before its expiration was extremely stupid. I wonder what he wouldve done if hed gotten in a car accident or been pulled over or been stuck in traffick?

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            Posted: January 24, 2012, 8:12 pm - IP Logged

            I may be in the minority here but I salute Iowa Lottery security. Sometimes integrity is all we have...

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              Posted: January 24, 2012, 8:23 pm - IP Logged

              I have a new motto...if I can't win, then I hope the jackpot is spread out thin so as to not be a big deal.  This situation is making me quite happy indeed.  Of course, I am going to be a hypocrite when I say that when I win, I hope I am the sole jackpot winner!

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                Posted: January 24, 2012, 8:32 pm - IP Logged

                over in  this thread http://www.lotterypost.com/news/241644 is an example of someone who may well have been the original buyer of this ticket.

                gotta say id rather the lotto officials make certain the correct person gets the money.

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                  Posted: January 25, 2012, 3:16 am - IP Logged

                  waited until the last second to claim through a trust so that the real winner wouldn't be aware of what happened.

                  That last bit just doesn't make sense to me, though. I would think any person with a working brain would realize that someone turning a winning jackpot ticket in only hours before it expires (a YEAR after it won) would be noticed by quite a few media outlets. Of course we are talking about criminal minds here, so not usually the brightest.

                  I was under the assumption that even when you claimed via a trust that the lottery would take your information, just keep it private.

                  Maybe it's not the media attention they're concerned with.  If the person claiming the prize isn't the rightful owner they shouldn't care if everyone on the planet knows somebody is claiming the prize, as long as the rightful owner doesn't realize it's their ticket. I can't imagine any scenario where waiting longer reduces the chance that the rightful owner won't reclaim their ticket.

                  Suppose it was a couple of weeks after the drawing and you noticed that the ticket on a somebody's refrigerator door was the winner and you took it.  They might realize it's missing or they might not. If they realize a winning ticket is missing they're going to make an effort to find it. Initially that effort may be calm and quiet, but as the deadline starts getting close they're going to start getting  much more concerned about finding it, and your chances of knowing they're looking go way up. Assuming you've got a lick of sense you're going to balance your desire to collect the money with your desire to stay out of jail. That means you would wait until you're as certain as you can be that they don't realize they had the winning ticket.

                  Again, if you've got some sense you would still consider that the rightful owner may be aware even if you were unaware of their efforts to find it. In that case you might instruct your lawyer not to reveal your name even if it means you won't collect the prize.

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                    Posted: January 25, 2012, 3:35 am - IP Logged

                    wow stealing a ticket off of someones fridge door? can you believe i never thought  of that? am i naive or what?

                     

                    tks for reminding me to keep tickets secure, and if i give as gifts to put the name of the recipient on it.

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                    keno historic = -2291 ; 2015= -603; 2016= JAN=-32, FEB= +12 , MAR= -86, APR = -77. MAY= -48, JUN= -29, JUL=-71; AUG = -52; SEPT= -43; OCT = +56 NOV = -33 TOT= -3297

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                      I wonder what everybody's aversion to signing tickets is all about.

                      It's really not very strenuous.


                                                                   
                                           
                                                               

                       

                       

                       

                       

                                                                                                                         

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                        Posted: January 25, 2012, 7:07 pm - IP Logged

                        Press Complaints Commission - Lottery Guidance Note - Lottery Winners

                         
                        Winners who opt for anonymity


                        Under the terms of the licence granted to the UK lottery organisers Camelot, winners are entitled to anonymity. If winners do opt for anonymity, the Commission would generally expect the press to respect this wish. To do otherwise may raise issues under the terms of Clause 3 of the Code, which relates to privacy. There may of course be exceptions to this if newspapers and magazines can demonstrate that it is in the public interest to identify an individual against their wishes, although the Commission has noted before that the size of the win alone would not be a sufficient reason for such identification. The Commission notes that in the 9 years since publication of the first guidance note it has not had to deal with any formal complaints about such identification: a welcome sign that editors have respected both the wishes of individuals and the Commission’s guidance. The press should also not seek to obtain information about winners who have requested anonymity from their family, friends or colleagues through any form of harassment contrary to Clause 4 of the Code.


                        Winners who opt for publicity


                        Other lottery winners choose to accept publicity. Having done so, they are still entitled to the protection of the Code of Practice: to expect that journalists will take care not to publish inaccurate material about them, will have respect for their private lives under the terms of Clause 3, and not harass them or their acquaintances in breach of Clause 4 of the Code. However, in assessing whether published material is intrusive under the terms of the Code, the Commission always considers the extent to which similar material has been placed into the public domain with the consent of the person concerned.


                        Vulnerable winners


                        By its nature the lottery will produce winners who are also vulnerable members of society: the very young, old, those who are unwell either physically or mentally, or those who have recently been bereaved. The Commission underlines that such people remain entitled to strong protection under the terms of the Code, regardless of whether or not they have won a large amount of money.

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                          Pretty excited to see how this all turns out.  My guess is no one will come forward.  They are busted and they know it!  They are probably already in the Caribbean!!

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                            Pretty excited to see how this all turns out.  My guess is no one will come forward.  They are busted and they know it!  They are probably already in the Caribbean!!

                            Welcome to Lottery Post, Urbangirlie, best of luck to ya!


                                                                         
                                                 
                                                                     

                             

                             

                             

                             

                                                                                                                               

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                              Welcome to Lottery Post, Urbangirlie, best of luck to ya!

                              Thank you!  And BTW, you are one of my favorite posters Wink Your quick wit always gives me a good chuckle.  I hope this will be a lucky year for me too! I have hit 3 numbers 6 times this year in Fantasy 5 (here in Cali) which is more than ever before so I am hopeful, well at least up until the end of the next drawing anyway, lol.Naughty

                               

                              Good luck to you as well rdgrnr!

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