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COMPUTERIZED DRAWING GLITCH STRIKES ARIZONA LOTTERY

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Posted: August 20, 2013, 11:33 pm - IP Logged

I think its still a problem in Arizona cause its not even 12am out there and the draw is out early like around 11:3pm I think they are still having issues.

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    Posted: August 20, 2013, 11:35 pm - IP Logged

    This sounds like a repeat incident from 15 years ago in AZ:

    http://tucsoncitizen.com/morgue2/1998/06/12/32669-no-9-error-cuts-76-000-from-prize-in-pick-3/

    Problem is, the state lottery people do not have expertise. They are provided equipment by various vendors and contractors, given instructions on how to operate it. But they are not experts. They are not analyzing the results like many players are for statistical anomalies. Ball drawings are not immune either, but more straighforward than a computer draw with hidden code and settings.

    There will continue to be issues like this, as long as there is no expertise in house. (like so many similar incidents in CA, KS, TN, and AZ) This also means someone at the vendor could purposely slip some "flaw" in there without them knowing too.

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      Posted: August 20, 2013, 11:36 pm - IP Logged

      WOW! Ouchy! Computer bad!

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        Posted: August 20, 2013, 11:38 pm - IP Logged

        Oh boy, seriously?

        C'mon, 3 pre-tests and 3 post-tests or more doesn't bother anyone in a ball drawing? It happens everyday. Can you imagine how many people who are eagerly waiting for due numbers to show in the official draw, day after day, only to show in the pre-tests and post-tests? And then finally give up after spending how many dollars?

        I've seen a number out in the first position longer than 30 or 40 days in a ball drawing, or the second position. But you'll see it show in the third position because of the finagling. Not to mention the juggling of the ball tubes, meaning rotations. On top of that, they have at least 3 sets of machines they use in rotation.

        So bottom line, once in a blue moon you have a computer glitch and it's the end of the world, yet most ball draws around the country totally screw up the flow of numbers by complex interference as mentioned above every single day, and this doesn't cause a major stir amongst players?

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          Posted: August 20, 2013, 11:46 pm - IP Logged

          Who ever got into the system knew what they were doing. It sounds like the systems were never updated with the back door on it.

          Tonight is way off. Its not even 9pm in AZ and the draw is out? Come on.

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            Posted: August 20, 2013, 11:48 pm - IP Logged

            I said it last time, it would only be a matter of time before another lottery running computerized hardware would fail..  Again, it won't be long before another one happens. You would think these Lottery commisioners would wise up because the integrity of the Lottery is on the line.. People will not forget,  Arizona Go back to REAL drawings instead of FALSE drawings...!!!

                                                         

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              Posted: August 20, 2013, 11:50 pm - IP Logged

              I agree Mad cause this is crazy if this was going on here where else can it be happening? 

              This is the 2nd time this happened? Smash

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                Posted: August 20, 2013, 11:54 pm - IP Logged

                Glitch....yeah sureWink

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                  I notice they didn't bother to mention why operational computer code was modified to the extent that a serious error was introduced. As a professional programmer of many years, I learned early on that you test, test, and test again, and then retest again whenever you make even a minor code change. But this situation is almost beyond belief. What happened on or about June 10th that required a software update? And why did that update step on something as crucial as the number generation subroutine?

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                    Posted: August 21, 2013, 12:30 am - IP Logged

                    Glitch....yeah sureWink

                    Especially with other people's money.
                    Come to think of it- where is Ronnie?  Could it be that he too was a victim of this so called"Glitch".
                    Trying to put the genie back in the bottle is foolishness at this point. This crap could be Nationwide and may well have been going on for years, whose to say otherwise?Accepting the word of these lottery officials that the problem is now " fixed" is too little too late.
                    Its time to send these computerized drawings into the Abyss.

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                      Posted: August 21, 2013, 12:39 am - IP Logged

                      Translated:  So sad too bad!!  Even though we screwed up, we are keeping your money and laughing all the way to the bank. 

                      Computerized drawings should be banned ... PERIOD!!

                       

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                        Posted: August 21, 2013, 12:51 am - IP Logged

                        Oh boy, seriously?

                        C'mon, 3 pre-tests and 3 post-tests or more doesn't bother anyone in a ball drawing? It happens everyday. Can you imagine how many people who are eagerly waiting for due numbers to show in the official draw, day after day, only to show in the pre-tests and post-tests? And then finally give up after spending how many dollars?

                        I've seen a number out in the first position longer than 30 or 40 days in a ball drawing, or the second position. But you'll see it show in the third position because of the finagling. Not to mention the juggling of the ball tubes, meaning rotations. On top of that, they have at least 3 sets of machines they use in rotation.

                        So bottom line, once in a blue moon you have a computer glitch and it's the end of the world, yet most ball draws around the country totally screw up the flow of numbers by complex interference as mentioned above every single day, and this doesn't cause a major stir amongst players?

                        Pre-tests and post-tests with real ball machines are out in the open where you can see it.

                        When somebody goes into the computer, they can do whatever the hell they want to do and then tell you they did something completely different.

                        I'd rather have the church lady cranking the bingo basket give me the numbers than some friend of the governor political hack with a computer.

                        Any day of the week.


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                          Pre-tests and post-tests with real ball machines are out in the open where you can see it.

                          When somebody goes into the computer, they can do whatever the hell they want to do and then tell you they did something completely different.

                          I'd rather have the church lady cranking the bingo basket give me the numbers than some friend of the governor political hack with a computer.

                          Any day of the week.

                          Just because they're in the open doesn't mean it's ok. Wrong doings can be done in the open under false presumptions.

                          If I do 20 pre-tests , does that make it ok because it was transparent? Where do you draw the line?

                          So basically you're saying that it's ok that they are screwing with the flow of numbers, as long as they show how they are screwing with it? lol


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                            @ Ridge, also, the church lady isn't doing 3 pre-tests and post-tests. She's gathering the balls and placing them in the chamber. That's the way I'd rather see the drawings. No tampering with the excuse that the pre and post is done to ensure the machines are working properly. Machines will break down no matter what you do. In fact, the more pre tests and post test one conducts will surely guarantee a quicker breakdown exponentially due to the law of physics. The more wear and tear you impose on a machine will greatly improve the chance that that machine will break down. There's no such thing as perpetual motion as we know it so far. Unless someone can overcome friction, wear, and heat, machines will always fail in the end, especially when you advance their breakdown by encouraging them, via  pre-tests and post-tests.

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                              Just because they're in the open doesn't mean it's ok. Wrong doings can be done in the open under false presumptions.

                              If I do 20 pre-tests , does that make it ok because it was transparent? Where do you draw the line?

                              So basically you're saying that it's ok that they are screwing with the flow of numbers, as long as they show how they are screwing with it? lol

                              I never said they should do any pre-tests. Where'd you get that? They only do pre-tests to throw people off. I don't think they should do any pretests whatsoever. But they don't listen to me because they have legions of people like you who they know will go along with the program no matter what they do

                              You're saying because you can't catch them in the open, we might as well trust them to do whatever the hell they say they're doing behind the curtain?

                              Yeah ok, that makes a lotta sense.

                              LOL, they love guys like you.

                                 
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